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A.K.A. Overgrowem

A.K.A. Overgrowem

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Rob Roy said:
Many people who disagree with me are actually experiencing an internal conflict and often their disagreement is really with themselves, since their opinions often contradict their other opinions. I'm just particularly good at pointing that out.

Also, I'm not a fucking asshole, I'm a fucking know it all.
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Good you know where you stand in life. The three Phases are 1, Reasonable, teachable, individual. 2, Morphs into 'Know It All'. 3, Morphs into 'Windbag'. If you really knew/know it all while in the 'Know It All' phase, you made/socked away enough green to go fishing when Windbag phase arrives. If a 'Know It All' did not know it all, then as an unguilded 'Windbag', politics seems an obvious path.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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scumrot derelict said:
I feel like your opinion is made in bad faith.

The law recognizes that children are developmentally not able to make decisions about some things, including when to engage in sexual behaviors. Laws vary by state, but a common age of consent is 16. Engaging in sexual behaviors with someone under the age of consent is illegal and will be treated as criminal sexual conduct.

We agree that sexually violating a child is a criminal act, correct?
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Sexually violating a child or any person is a bad behavior. I don't know what you mean when you say criminal, do you mean heinous and wrong or simply illegal? If it were legal it would still be a bad behavior.

The reason it's bad is it disregards consent as an essential element in a given human interaction. Giving another persons consent for them or restricting a person who is capable of consenting from doing so are two sides of the same coin.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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A.K.A. Overgrowem said:
Good you know where you stand in life. The three Phases are 1, Reasonable, teachable, individual. 2, Morphs into 'Know It All'. 3, Morphs into 'Windbag'. If you really knew/know it all while in the 'Know It All' phase, you made/socked away enough green to go fishing when Windbag phase arrives. If a 'Know It All' did not know it all, then as an unguilded 'Windbag', politics seems an obvious path.
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I'm glad you didn't say ungelded windbag, because that's nothing to horse around about. (that's a horse joke...sort of)

I like fishing too. Maybe you're onto something?
 
scumrot derelict

scumrot derelict

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Rob Roy said:
Sexually violating a child or any person is a bad behavior. I don't know what you mean when you say criminal, do you mean heinous and wrong or simply illegal? If it were legal it would still be a bad behavior.

The reason it's bad is it disregards consent as an essential element in a given human interaction. Giving another persons consent for them or restricting a person who is capable of consenting from doing so are two sides of the same coin.
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I mean all of those things.

Listen, man. I admit that I am a biased in my argument with you. When I was a kid, my dad filmed himself doing some really fucked up things to me. It's going to be impossible for me to have an honest argument with you about this.

But, I kind of feel like you are just trolling me with this because you are smart enough to get away with it.

I will never accept your claim that permission from a child is "flexible" or "debatable". .

It is not. We disagree.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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scumrot derelict said:
I mean all of those things.

Listen, man. I admit that I am a biased in my argument with you. When I was a kid, my dad filmed himself doing some really fucked up things to me. It's going to be impossible for me to have an honest argument with you about this.

But, I kind of feel like you are just trolling me with this because you are smart enough to get away with it.

I will never accept your claim that permission from a child is "flexible" or "debatable". .

It is not. We disagree.
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I'm sorry you were victimized. Oh I don't think consent is flexible, for instance if you didn't consent or were unable to, nobody should try to give your consent for you. Which has been the primary feature of my main point.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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tangerinegreen555 said:
I am free.

You're the one who claims to be held back. I don't have a problem existing in society, do you?

Are you in chains? Are we holding you down? Do you constantly complain IRL?

What does your therapist say?

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No, you are not free. You are a slave, bound tightly in mental chains, believing in superstitions that within a forcible hierarchy there is freedom and equality. You have much ignorance to shed and likely have bad breath too.
 
tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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Rob Roy said:
No, you are not free. You are a slave, bound tightly in mental chains, believing in superstitions that within a forcible hierarchy there is freedom and equality. You have much ignorance to shed and likely have bad breath too.
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Can there possibly be anyone less qualified to call someone a slave here?

Shouldn't you clearly be able to determine the age of consent and not produce intellectually dishonest arguments against civil rights first?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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tangerinegreen555 said:
Can there possibly be anyone less qualified to call someone a slave here?

Shouldn't you clearly be able to determine the age of consent and not produce intellectually dishonest arguments against civil rights first?
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The age of consent isn't universal, it follows the individual. Generally speaking the younger a person is the less likely they have attained it.

What do you disagree with in the above statement ?


Intellectually dishonest ? Can you elaborate on why you believe my argument is intellectually dishonest ?

You are not free, you have some privileges which can and often are revoked by your masters. Now go cry because you can't answer my questions
 
tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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Rob Roy said:
The age of consent isn't universal, it follows the individual. Generally speaking the younger a person is the less likely they have attained it.

What do you disagree with in the above statement ?


Intellectually dishonest ? Can you elaborate on why you believe my argument is intellectually dishonest ?

You are not free, you have some privileges which can and often are revoked by your masters. Now go cry because you can't answer my questions
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Define questions
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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tangerinegreen555 said:
That's trolling
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Sometimes asking a question is trolling. Sometimes it is not trolling and is a means to facilitate discussion and try to understand anothers point of view.

For you, if you are afraid of questions, I'll just make statements, you can decide if you want to respond to them.

Forcing a person to serve you against their will is wrong. You would do it though. That's slavery.

You are a slave who advocates for slave on slave violence and you don't answer questions very well, because to do so would expose your duplicity and inability to defend your point of view. I think you might be mentally deficient.
 
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