Seedsman Seeds-Skunk Mix-From the Beggining

smokermore

smokermore

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Welcome to my grow journal​

Seedsman Seeds:Skunk Mix​

Hello again my weed family. I open this thread in open arms, in hope I will learn something new along the way, and hopefully someone out there can get something out of this too. With that said, lets kick this thing off.​

Seeds/Strains- I purchased the seeds online from the attitude seeds website. I chose to go with Seedsman Seeds this time because their prices for mix packs are rediculously cheap. Possible strains in this mix are: Skunk Haze, Hindu Kush, Swazi Skunk, Skunk #1, Indian Skunk, Hawaiin Skunk, Ultra Skunk, and Skunk #11. A total of 10 regualr seeds.
What i didnt realize, is the seeds all come in the same pack, with no lables. At first i was a little stumped, because i like to know what im growing. But on the other hand, i think will be fun to try and guess which one is which. You guys can help me out on that i hope.​

Lights- 150 watt mh for the first 2 weeks, may go as long as 1 month. 600 watt hps.​

Soil/Nutrients- Going with good ole Fox Farm Ocean Forest. In my little experience, this seems to be the best soil, little pricey for dirt, but its like im also paying for peace of mind. Going with the trio pack of FF nutes. Most of you are familiar with these i would think: Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom, and Grow Big. I also got some calmag, because i think i always seem to get a mag def toward the middle of the grow.​

Prices- This is just to let you all know, you can grow some badass budz on a rather low budget. Everything i listed above costed me ruffly around $400. Seeds bought online- 1 mix pack=9.99 euro(i think thats around 16$). Soil and nutes bought at the hydro store. ffof i believe is around 30$, and the trio pack was around 60$ but im not posative, it was awhile back when i got the nutes. I bought all my lights from HTG Supply online. 150 watt mh/hps system after shipping= 80$. 600 watt hps system after shipping = 220$​

The Situation- Today i started the germination proccess by dropping all 10 seeds in a glass filled with bottled spring water. I usually use distilled water, hopefully theres not much difference between the two. I doubt it matters.​

There is one important factor in this grow, which is THE MOST IMPORTANT factor. I have to be done by May. I know this may seem impossible, but thats just the way it is. Where theres a will theres a way.​

Just a few predictions. 10 seeds were dropped in a cup of water this morning. Im guessing 8 of those will crack, and out of those 8, 4 will be female. Now if they all crack and all turn out female, I will grow every dam one of them. But im hoping to have atleast 4 good looking females out of the bunch, crossing my fingers.​

My overall plan: Veg them 20/4 for no longer than a month. Then of course strait to flower for 2 months. I understand some might not be fully done, but thats better than no bud at all.
One thing im kinda stumped on. Since time is the most important factor, i dont have time to waste by seeing which are male and which are female by cutting clones. Im not really sure how im going to go about this. I have a homeade mother keeper thats nowhere near big enough for 10 one month vegged plants. I also only have 1 bag of soil lol(i was origonally gonna grow 1 huge whitewidow but it never cracked) so ill prob have to end up egtting some more. But heres the thing, i dont want to waste a crap load of soil when i figure which are male and female. the only thing i can think to do this is basically vegging them all in the same size pots with same amount of soil, and start flowering before i move them in there final pots. What worries me with that is, they might already need to go in bigger pots, and it usually takes atleast a week to kno for sure the sex. So if i flower them for the first week in their smaller pots, and then move them to bigger pots for the remainder of flowering, would this screw me out of a good harvest?​

Well thats where im at for now. I look forward to hearing any comments or critisism. Thanks for reading, now its time to smoke...​
 
smokermore

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Hmmmm, im starting to second guess my germination method. They have been in a cup of spring water for about 30 hours and only 2 have seemed to crack. I use to get awsome results this way, but now this is the second time in a row where seeds just are not cracking. Prob too late to move them to a damp papertowel?
 
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growone

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i do the same thing, works very well
it's fine to go to the paper towel, no harm at all
30 hours is on the high side, but i'd say the jury may still be out
if you get to the no lose situation, a tiny nick on the seed tip can make the difference
must be done very carefully to avoid inner seed damage
 
redrum83420

redrum83420

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i just soak my seeds for 24 hours. all seeds will be at the bottom by then. then move all seeds to party cups with soil, and clear smaller party cup over it for humidity dome. i have 2 seedmans seeds skunk haze going right now 12/12 from seed, along with others in my sig if you want to check the skunk haze out.
 
smokermore

smokermore

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growone said:
i do the same thing, works very well
it's fine to go to the paper towel, no harm at all
30 hours is on the high side, but i'd say the jury may still be out
if you get to the no lose situation, a tiny nick on the seed tip can make the difference
must be done very carefully to avoid inner seed damage
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I tried something similar to that with a white widow seed just before i germinated these seeds. That was actually my origonal plan to grow 1 big ass ww, but never cracked, was sad. I ended up getting a razor blade and carefully cracked it myself as a last hope, and nothing ever happened. It was just a bad seed i guess, some crack some dont.
Which end would i cut off a tiny nick? I would guess its the side where the sprout comes out?
redrum83420 said:
i just soak my seeds for 24 hours. all seeds will be at the bottom by then. then move all seeds to party cups with soil, and clear smaller party cup over it for humidity dome. i have 2 seedmans seeds skunk haze going right now 12/12 from seed, along with others in my sig if you want to check the skunk haze out.
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In my experience, the seeds usually sink to the bottom after about 6 hours if you give them a little poke, and usually crackes within 24 hours, and if they dont crack withing that time then their usually duds. I went ahead and put all the seeds in individual cups even tho the majority didnt crack, hoping maybe atleast 1 of them might come thru.

So its looking like only 2 of the 10 will even sprout. This changes up my plans quit a bit. I have no time to waste. Although i was looking forward to growing a variety of skunks, i will have to go ahead and start germinating the freebies i got, which are whitewidow x bigbud, northern lights blue, and sugar rose black, all feminized. I guess now i need to change the title of this thread, not a skunk mix grow anymore :(
 
smokermore

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Here are some pcs of a little mother keeper i made from an old computer desk, and the three new strains ill be going with

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Greenbud007

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I have been germinating the same way you have for years. Some seeds crack and sprout in 24 hrs some 48 hrs and some take 4 days or more. Some float on top the whole time and some sink. If they are viable seeds they will perform for you. PATIENCE!!!! is the key. Once they sprout plant them root down just barely covererd by soil. Mist occasionally for a few days and there ya go. Sprout. Sounds easy? it is.
 
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growone

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smokermore said:
Which end would i cut off a tiny nick? I would guess its the side where the sprout comes out?
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that's what i did, managed to get a very stubborn seed to germinate, and eventually grow, turned out to be a male
the large number of non sprouters is miserable, you seem well grounded in the basics of germination
that's part of the reason i subbed to the thread, to see how seedsman seeds perform
i have seen some other complaints on this breeders seeds, let's hope some more pop here
 
redrum83420

redrum83420

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all my skunk haze seeds(seedmans seeds) that ive germed have grown so far. 2 started out growing weird but started growing normal.
 
smokermore

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Well, you guys guessed it. Man its easy to ge impatient with this stuff! 4 More of the skunk strains have sprouted up! That makes 6 out of 10 so far, not bad. And....i already started germinating the 3 freebies so theres no turning back on those. This is going to get very interesting :) Already have more than i was planning. Ill need to buy 1 more bag of soil and everything should be ok.

Heres a couple pics, nothing much to see yet...

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smokermore

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growone said:
much better, was hoping this would stay a seedsman mixed skunk grow
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I was too! I kinda wish i would of saved those fem seeds for later, but o well, should have a nice variety. All the seedlings that have sprouted are looking good and healthy. So far, still have 6 out of 10 skunks that sprouted, still waiting on the fem needs. For the first 2 days i used a 28 watt cfl 6000K, and i just switched to 150 watt mh last night.
 
smokermore

smokermore

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redrum83420 said:
how much did the temps go up from switching to the mh?
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When I was using the cfl, the temp was around 76 degrees. Now with the mh, it gets up to 81. Im also keeping the light about 3 ft above them since their still so little.


Update: More good news! 2 more sprouts, making a total of 8 out of 10! At this point, i wouldnt be surprised if they all sprout! I am totally happy so far with these seeds now, i feel kinda dum for assuming most were "duds" lol. I kinda feel like i may be over doing it now because of right now, i have 8 skunk sprouts, and all 3 of the fem seeds have sprouted, giving me a total of 11 plants. I origonally planned on having around 4. ill just go with the flow and see what happens
 
redrum83420

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your going to want to get that light allot closer or your going to get stretched plants. 3' is way to far away for that small of bulb. i have my 360 watt about 14-18" away with a air cooled hood. a intake and exhaust is going to be needed.
 
smokermore

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redrum83420 said:
your going to want to get that light allot closer or your going to get stretched plants. 3' is way to far away for that small of bulb. i have my 360 watt about 14-18" away with a air cooled hood. a intake and exhaust is going to be needed.
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Ya i was plannining on moving them alot closer soon. I just wanted to keep them a good distance for the first few days since their only babies.

Im wondering, is there any way to let the other seedlings catch up with the others? My first 2 sprouts are about 2 days ahead of the rest.

Well, now i have 9 out of 10 skunks seeds that have sprouted. As awsome as that is, im gonna run out of room im afraid. Im very temped to buy a light mover, seems like a good idea.
 
redrum83420

redrum83420

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just adjust each plant as they grow to try and keep a even canopy. you could grow them 12/12 from seed. what are you using for exhaust?
 
smokermore

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redrum83420 said:
just adjust each plant as they grow to try and keep a even canopy. you could grow them 12/12 from seed. what are you using for exhaust?
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Well right now their all in a mother keeper that has a 8 inch duct fan in the upper corner right next to the light. Seems to do a great job since the light and and box arent that big. Intake air is just coming from the cracks and a few holes here and there.

I had to do alot of plant moving on my previous grow, and its alot of extra work! I mean, having to do that everyday was such a pain in the ass lol. My light and reflecter weigh so little i think i can get awat with buying the cheapest lightmovers. Ive seen some for like $110, that 6' rail and motor and everything.

After they get bigger, i move them out the grow box and use my whole laundry room for flowering. Laundry room is 3'x8'x8'. Ive been keeping the door open so its not a closed of space. Makes it alot easier to control temp but, i recently found out some area's are getting more airflow than others. I just had a pretty good harvest, almost 13 oz, but all my biggest bestest buds have a little mold in the very center. So ill be sure to add more fans this time around.
 
redrum83420

redrum83420

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your mother tent doesnt have intake holes on the bottom? i think htg has light movers at a good price. thats a nice size room to flower in :) and nice last harvest.
 
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