Scientists 'cheat' to break Newton's third law!

Beefbisquit

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http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24411#.Ul-_-1DUnVL

"Isaac Newton just got cheated. Laser pulses have been made to accelerate themselves around loops of optical fibre, seeming to break the physicist's law that every action must have an equal and opposite reaction. The work exploits a trick with light that only makes it appear to have mass, so it is a bit of a cheat, but it may one day lead to faster electronics and more reliable communications.
According to Newton's third law of motion, when one billiard ball strikes another, the two balls should bounce away from each other. But if one of the billiard balls had a negative mass, then when the two balls collide they will accelerate in the same direction. This effect could be useful in a diametric drive, a speculative "engine" in which negative and positive mass interact to accelerate forever. NASA explored using the effect in the 1990s in a bid to make a diametric drive for better spacecraft propulsion. But there was a very big fly in the ointment: quantum mechanics states that matter cannot have a negative mass. Even antimatter, made of particles with the opposite charge and spin to their normal matter counterparts, has positive mass." - New Scientist
 

heckler73

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Something smells fishy about this... "effective mass" ?
Hmmmm... that's almost like "relative mass"... it's not really mass, but we'll treat it as such...
So while it is an interesting diffraction method, I think the "conservation of momentum" law is still unbroken.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
how can any object have a negative mass??

well, i just googled it, and came up with that it's a part of theoretical physics and is a hpothetical concept.. guess that answers that..
 

Beefbisquit

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Equal and opposite reaction is not a reality. A certain amount of energy is always lost in the reaction.

Nope.

There is never a 100% energy transfer, but energy is never 'lost', only transferred into forms of non-usable energy (for that purpose).

For example: The Bugatti Veyron is rated for 1001HP, the engine actually produces 3000HP, but 2000HP is lost to heat. The energy from the gasoline isn't 'lost', it's just not 100% efficient in the energy transfer.

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