Satellite data proves Earth has not been warming the past 18 years - it's stable

Citing fox news. What daring. What outrageousness. I laugh derisively at you madam.

UncleBuck said:

i recall your standard of proof and willingness to discredit sources you did not agree with in the past.

your track record was supremely shitty.

recall:






















so, how'd those predictions, inability to understand simple, scientific polling, and standard of evidence work out for ya last time?



no matter, you probably have it all nailed down this time with much more complex math and science though.

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Meh...after a few hundred years...I'm not sure what to make of this "research" when dire predictions are made for centuries in the future. But sure, the caveat is mathematically conceivable under strictly limited circumstances which completely ignore Sol.

schuylaar said:

it is inconceivable that man has NOT done damage to this earth..if you believe otherwise, you are a fool.

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You've been watching the Avatar movie again haven't you? I really like those flying reptile things. S'pose Doer could kill one with a rock, I'm getting kind of hungry.

tightpockt said:

Lol...more disinformation from a noted conservative who fills in for rush Limbaugh.
Lets see...who to believe...science or conservative author?

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Who to believe? A bunch of shrill, anti-gmo, ants to big oil, anti-progress, anti-all but, pro NUKE< driods?

...or just follow the real science?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/huge-antarctic-ice-sheet-collapsing-1.2639989

The huge West Antarctic ice sheet is starting a glacially slow collapse in an unstoppable way, two new studies show. Alarmed scientists say that means even more sea level rise than they figured.

The worrisome outcomes won't be seen soon. Scientists are talking hundreds of years, but over that time the melt that has started could eventually add 1.2 to 3.6 metres to current sea levels.
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So, the stupid money say, Man Caused This.

The smart money say we don't know, but it is happening, very slowly, but it is happening.

The stupid money says something this big can surely be stopped by Man.

The stupid money says we did it so we can FIX???? It.

schuylaar said:

it is inconceivable that man has NOT done damage to this earth..if you believe otherwise, you are a fool.

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No, there is no evidence for that, M'Lady.

Ceepea said:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/huge-antarctic-ice-sheet-collapsing-1.2639989

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"The huge West Antarctic ice sheet is starting a glacially slow collapse..."

Have ice sheets ever melted "glacially slow" before? How many times? What was the cause of past "glacially slow" meltings?

Padawanbater2 said:

You've already admitted there's nothing you would accept as proof of anthropogenic climate change, so it would seem the source is irrelevant..

You don't like what the information says, doesn't matter where it comes from

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I list my proofs and sea rise is not one of them.

What can be accepted as proof is the responsibility of the experimenter.

I have seen no link to man but a tiny bit of Carbon 13, proportionally, to the megatons of Carbon 12, and 14 in the atmosphere. Effect does not say cause in this. And bit more carbon add a bit more "forcing" talk, but no model, is not science. But, in politics the money is already being spent. And in 150 years, none of us will care, and babies born in 50 years may not need to care, but the USA has to care about the long term.

That is what we see.

But, like Sky, I say, how could we not have an effect? But, that's not a basis for experiment.

heckler73 said:

Meh...after a few hundred years...I'm not sure what to make of this "research" when dire predictions are made for centuries in the future. But sure, the caveat is mathematically conceivable under strictly limited circumstances which completely ignore Sol.

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If we are talking hundreds of years in the future, overpopulation would be my biggest concern.

The argument, Kelly, is that we are "forcing" the natural cycle into excess heating.

No proof of that I have seen.

kelly4 said:

If we are talking hundreds of years in the future, overpopulation would be my biggest concern.

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The population is set for a big man made decline. And the main part it is the education of women we need to defeat Jihad, more opportunities for women apart from Home life, and the general macho stupidity of men is less tolerated.

Onward Christian Soldier Camps are a laugh and part of the problem. But, a population decline will really upset the Jihad and they may make a last gasp attempt to drive mankind into the rising sea levels, for Power.

Doer said:

No, there is no evidence for that, M'Lady.

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Volcanoes and wayward asteroid strikes can, and have inflicted much, much more damage than puny, insignificant Humans ever could.

Does anyone think that any human activity and behavior could possibly prevent the onslaught of the inevitable future ice-age?

Climate change is entirely cyclical there is nothing puny Humans could ever possibly do to disrupt this natural cycle.

Wavels said:

Volcanoes and wayward asteroid strikes can, and have inflicted much, much more damage than puny, insignificant Humans ever could.

Does anyone think that any human activity and behavior could possibly prevent the onslaught of the inevitable future ice-age?

Climate change is entirely cyclical there is nothing puny Humans could ever possibly do to disrupt this natural cycle.

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No, we don't know that. We don't know there is nothing puny humans could do. We don't know if we already did it.

Doer said:

No, we don't know that. We don't know there is nothing puny humans could do. We don't know if we already did it.

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Krakatoa was only one volcano...


Recorded history does not go back far enough in time to truly tell the tale with any degree of accuracy.

Asteroids and meteors are also well known threats to climate harmony and continuity.

In comparison, Humans are truly puny and benign.

Doer said:

No, there is no evidence for that, M'Lady.

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There's a plethora of evidence that shows the damage man has done to the earth... just look at the holes in the ozone layer.

Wavels said:

Krakatoa was only one volcano...


Recorded history does not go back far enough in time to truly tell the tale with any degree of accuracy.

Asteroids and meteors are also well known threats to climate harmony and continuity.

In comparison, Humans are truly puny and benign.

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That's just not true at all. We've decimated rainforests, pumped chemicals and greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere, and lots of other horrific things.

Ceepea said:

That's just not true at all. We've decimated rainforests, pumped chemicals and greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere, and lots of other horrific things.

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Wow, only one big asteroid could inflict substantially more damage...not to mention multiple volcanic eruptions.

But Mankind is the ultimate blight in your mind...I wonder why you are predisposed to believe this fallacy?

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/what-are-chances-climate-change-natural

99% certainty that climate change is man-driven.

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/has-climate-change-paused-nope

Climate change hasn't stopped.

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/highest-carbon-dioxide-levels-800000-years

Highest CO2 levels in 800,000 years.

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/2047-our-coldest-years-may-be-warmer-hottest-our-past

By 2047 our coldest years, will be warmer than our hottest years.

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/oceans-warming-15-times-faster-last-10000-years

Oceans warming faster than they have in the last 15,000 years.

Doer said:

Who to believe?
The huge West Antarctic ice sheet is starting a glacially slow collapse in an unstoppable way, two new studies show. Alarmed scientists say that means even more sea level rise than they figured..

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No problem. I'll just stop at the dollar store and buy more ice cube trays. I don't need cubes from Antarctica. Whatever happened to good ole fashioned merican ice cubes? Some people.....

Wavels said:

Wow, only one big asteroid could inflict substantially more damage...not to mention multiple volcanic eruptions.

But Mankind is the ultimate blight in your mind...I wonder why you are predisposed to believe this fallacy?

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I'm not debating that an asteroid couldn't cause catastrophic damage.

I'm debating the fact that you said humans are puny and benign, when we are demonstrably not.

We've never had a time in history when fossil fuels were being burned. They've pretty much always been locked underground, out of sight.