Roots absorb nutrient ions through porins

since1991

since1991

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Look man its like this....sure you can grow great weed with a solid full profile base nutrient. But if your room is really dialed in (most are not -believe that - its expensive to do it where the little things have a huge impact) you will see gains and quality by using things like amino acids, kelp based hormones, carbohydrates, vitamins, and humics. Thats a fact. Your strain and environment is most of it....dial that in first. Then you introduce the bio stimulants for improved quality and yields. Most never make it this far with a proven strain so when they add something like hormones or amino acids they see nothing.
 
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churchhaze

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since1991 said:
With your word "eat" i can tell your a forum born and raised grower.
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I've been following these forums since the overgrow days, so yes I'd say I'm forum born and raised.

I've been designing my own hydroponic formulas for the past 7 years now and have made over 18 iterations of my formula, dialing in on the perfect nutrient profile. The reason you're seeing improvement in your grows has nothing to do with the bullshit products you've been adding. You're probably just better at growing than you were when you didn't use those products.

You say it's expensive to become "really" dialed in, but my nutrients are likely some of the cheapest on the forum. Generic salts.
 
since1991

since1991

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churchhaze said:
I've been following these forums since the overgrow days, so yes I'd say I'm forum born and raised.

I've been designing my own hydroponic formulas for the past 7 years now and have made over 18 iterations of my formula, dialing in on the perfect nutrient profile. The reason you're seeing improvement in your grows has nothing to do with the bullshit products you've been adding. You're probably just better at growing than you were when you didn't use those products.

You say it's expensive to become "really" dialed in, but my nutrients are likely some of the cheapest on the forum. Generic salts.
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When i say expensive i mean can you change the humidity and temperature of your room in one number increments? Where it stays at the desired environment target numbers consistently no matter what? I mean really really dialed?
 
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Chillin chillin

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churchhaze said:
I've been following these forums since the overgrow days, so yes I'd say I'm forum born and raised.

I've been designing my own hydroponic formulas for the past 7 years now and have made over 18 iterations of my formula, dialing in on the perfect nutrient profile. The reason you're seeing improvement in your grows has nothing to do with the bullshit products you've been adding. You're probably just better at growing than you were when you didn't use those products.

You say it's expensive to become "really" dialed in, but my nutrients are likely some of the cheapest on the forum. Generic salts.
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Come on bro I know you really don't think that you get the same results just adding water over water w nutrients in them
 
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churchhaze

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Chillin chillin said:
Come on bro I know you really don't think that you get the same results just adding water over water w nutrients in them
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I'm not sure I understand this post completely, but I'll give it a shot. No, you won't get the same result using water vs water with nutrients in it. If you don't feed your plants, they will grow slowly, turn yellow, and die.
 
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churchhaze

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since1991 said:
Wow!!!!
Ok. Iam not even gonna go any further. Your rite iam wrong. Carry on with your homemade salts... Great job...nice plants.
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Well you are wrong about amino acids. Amino acids are just another form of organic N that needs to be broken down into ammonia.
 
since1991

since1991

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What you put in your root zone has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH ATMOSPHERIC HUMIDITY TEMPERATURE AND CARBON DIOXIDE LEVELS. Thats all iam going to say any further. Your question above said it all for me.
 
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churchhaze

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since1991 said:
No iam not.
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Amino acid is N that hasn't been broken down yet. Animals need to injest amino acids to synthesis proteins. Animals die and release amino acids back into the soil. Amino acids break down into ammonia and ammonia breaks down into nitrate. Plants eat nitrate and ammonia. Plants produce amino acids.
 
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