RIU Biden Job Approval Poll
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BudmanTX
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Where do I start, lol.
The Economy
Energy policies
Inflation
The Border
His socialist agenda
Weak leadership and Foreign Policy (Afghanistan withdrawal, how he's handled China, Iran, ect.)
That's just a few, plus I also think he's been selling out the US to foreign countries like Ukraine and China.
I honestly can't think of one good thing he's done. The guy is an embarrassment to our country.
Fogdog
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Start anywhere. Be specific. What has Biden done that makes Trump your clear choice for prez.
cannabineer
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Please provide text references that show that he has an agenda that involves collectivizing the means of production and finance. Those are the core criteria of socialism.
How about everything he's done. The guy is a horrible president. Even most Democrats don't like him, but they are stuck with him.
cannabineer
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Substantiate with text references
doublejj
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Fogdog
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OK, so you aren't answering with specifics, so I'll take your first topic.
The Economy.
Just last month, 199.000 more people were hired than the month before.
Total new jobs since Biden became president:
Today’s report shows that Bidenomics is growing the economy from the middle out and bottom up—not the top down. The economy has created 14 million jobs since I took office and 150,000 jobs in October.
Make that 14,199,000 new jobs, adding in the November report.
How many jobs were
Trump's Final Numbers - FactCheck.org
Statistical indicators of President Trump's four years in office.
www.factcheck.org
The economy lost 2.9 million jobs. The unemployment rate increased by 1.6 percentage points to 6.3%
I prefer to have a president that creates milions of new jobs instead of Trump, who kills jobs and raises unemployment.
Would you care to clarify why you think Biden's economy makes Trump your clear choice? When I look at what's happened under Biden and compare what happened under Trump, t's not as obvious to me as it seems to be to you.
Trump was indicted by a weaponized DOJ with Trump Derangement Syndrome so I could care less. If he actually put our country in jeopardy I would care but this is just a witch hunt. The Left will do anything they can to prevent him from running for office again. They're scared he'll win.
DeadHeadX
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a list from someone who prefers an alternate truth.
As soon as I see the brainwashed shouting words like socialist, I know we’re lost to ignorance. Trump is much closer to a fascist than Biden is to a socialist.
You like to quote CNN, so here's this. 71% of Americans rate his economy as poor. I'm sure you've noticed the Dem's aren't bragging about Bidenomics anymore. They finally figured out that the American population wasn't buying the bullshit.OK, so you aren't answering with specifics, so I'll take your first topic.
The Economy.
Just last month, 199.000 more people were hired than the month before.
Total new jobs since Biden became president:
Today’s report shows that Bidenomics is growing the economy from the middle out and bottom up—not the top down. The economy has created 14 million jobs since I took office and 150,000 jobs in October.
Make that 14,199,000 new jobs, adding in the November report.
How many jobs werecreatedlost while Trump was in office?
Trump's Final Numbers - FactCheck.org
Statistical indicators of President Trump's four years in office.
The economy lost 2.9 million jobs. The unemployment rate increased by 1.6 percentage points to 6.3%
I prefer to have a president that creates milions of new jobs instead of Trump, who kills jobs and raises unemployment.
Would you care to clarify why you think Biden's economy makes Trump your clear choice? When I look at what's happened under Biden and compare what happened under Trump, t's not as obvious to me as it seems to be to you.
cannabineer
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His Green New Deal is just one example of his socialist agenda. There are plenty more if you do some research or actually think about some of his policies.
cannabineer
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Fogdog
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According to what I've read regarding the charges made in Georgia and in DC, the DOJ has been following the law. Trump has lawyers who represent him and they are presenting the case for Trump. Judges have reviewed the arguments and evidence from both the prosecution and defense. They have found that the prosecution has grounds for indicting Trump and many other co-conspirators.
Tracking the Trump criminal cases: Latest on legal charges and key players
A definitive guide to the key players and legal risks in the four criminal probes of the former president.
www.politico.com
The Federal Election Interference Case
A Washington grand jury met for months and heard testimony from many former Trump aides and officials in the Trump White House, including Pence.
On Aug. 1, 2023, the grand jury approved an indictment against Trump, charging him with an extraordinary conspiracy that threatened to disenfranchise millions of Americans.
The Georgia Election Interference Case
In the summer of 2023, Willis presented her evidence to a regular grand jury, which approved a 98-page indictment on Aug. 14, 2023.
Charges
The indictment accuses 19 named defendants of criminal wrongdoing and contains a total of 41 state-law felony charges. Thirteen of those felonies are leveled against Trump. The most serious is an alleged violation of the state’s Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, commonly known as RICO. That law allows prosecutors to package together disparate crimes if those crimes advance a single corrupt enterprise.
1 count of violating the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act
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3 counts of solicitation of violation of oath by public officer
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1 count of conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer
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2 counts of conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree
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2 counts of false statements and writings
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2 counts of conspiracy to commit false statements and writings
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1 count of filing false documents
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1 count of conspiracy to commit filing false documents
According to above, the DOJ is following the law in a careful and transparent manner. Trump's lawyers are also following the law and appealing deciisions that they claim are illegal. Decisions made by judges overseeing their prosecutions have been tested through the appeals process and sustained. You can say what you like about the DOJ but these cases are being tried according to the rule of law in this country. Do you believe that Trump is above that law and he is not subject to them? I don't think he is.
As JJ says, I prefer Biden who is not indicted and accused of high crimes against this country's elections and the constitution. This is another reason why Biden is my choice for president over Trump.
You're right Fact Do Matter, lol.
Green New Deal
The Green New Deal is a four part program for moving America quickly out of crisis into a secure, sustainable future. Inspired by the New Deal programs that helped us out of the Great Depression of the 1930s, the Green New Deal will provide similar relief and create an economy that makes our...
www.gp.org
cannabineer
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~frantic litterbox scratching~According to what I've read regarding the charges made in Georgia and in DC, the DOJ has been following the law. Trump has lawyers who represent him and they are presenting the case for Trump. Judges have reviewed the arguments and evidence from both the prosecution and defense. They have found that the prosecution has grounds for indicting Trump and many other co-conspirators.
Tracking the Trump criminal cases: Latest on legal charges and key players
A definitive guide to the key players and legal risks in the four criminal probes of the former president.
The Federal Election Interference Case
A Washington grand jury met for months and heard testimony from many former Trump aides and officials in the Trump White House, including Pence.
On Aug. 1, 2023, the grand jury approved an indictment against Trump, charging him with an extraordinary conspiracy that threatened to disenfranchise millions of Americans.
The Georgia Election Interference Case
In the summer of 2023, Willis presented her evidence to a regular grand jury, which approved a 98-page indictment on Aug. 14, 2023.
Charges
The indictment accuses 19 named defendants of criminal wrongdoing and contains a total of 41 state-law felony charges. Thirteen of those felonies are leveled against Trump. The most serious is an alleged violation of the state’s Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, commonly known as RICO. That law allows prosecutors to package together disparate crimes if those crimes advance a single corrupt enterprise.
1 count of violating the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act
|
3 counts of solicitation of violation of oath by public officer
|
1 count of conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer
|
2 counts of conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree
|
2 counts of false statements and writings
|
2 counts of conspiracy to commit false statements and writings
|
1 count of filing false documents
|
1 count of conspiracy to commit filing false documents
According to above, the DOJ is following the law in a careful and transparent manner. Trump's lawyers are also following the law and appealing deciisions that they claim are illegal. Decisions made by judges overseeing their prosecutions have been tested through the appeals process and sustained. You can say what you like about the DOJ but these cases are being tried according to the rule of law in this country. Do you believe that Trump is above that law and he is not subject to them? I don't think he is.
As JJ says, I prefer Biden who is not indicted and accused of high crimes against this country's elections and the constitution. This is another reason why Biden is my choice for president over Trump.
Fogdog
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The only polls that matter are election polls, which Trump refused to accept, which is another reason why I prefer Biden over Trump.
Now then, getting back to the earlier question. Which economic performance do you prefer? A president like Trump, who destroyed 3 million jobs or a president like Biden who created 14,199,000 new jobs?
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