Right im getting pissed about The FLUX

Ok im here to help everyone who is getting the wrong information from people saying Lumens dont add up (when they do but a FLUX just cant belend them together as it is metal so how people think it could pick up anything else WTF
dont listen to people who have only use a flux and said it dont add up .
as they do add up not with a FLUX but the plant will lol
use as many as you can the more the better.
thanks for listen

If lumens "added" (they don't), a lux meter, which measures light intensity (1 lux = 1 lumen per square metre), would show a doubling of light intensity per light source added, it doesn't.

You're confusing light intensity with light coverage. Two 1300lm bulbs may cover more area with light, but it's the same 1300lm intensity.

No your not understanding me .
everyone say lumens dont add up (on a flux if you get two bulbs next to each other so whats the point)
but a plant doesnt read light intensity like a flux which is metal no shit its only gonna pick out one intensity .
its not about adding all the lumens to one leaf but riseing the lumen in a total per a sq/ft

becuase i have
1 x 125w 12000 lumens and 2 x 85w 5500 lumens each Just at the top but i understand what your saying its right as a light bulb can only be one (max) intensity but you cant base your fact off a FLUX damn

On3Tim3OnLy said:

No your not understanding me .
everyone say lumens dont add up (on a flux if you get two bulbs next to each other so whats the point)
but a plant doesnt read light intensity like a flux which is metal no shit its only gonna pick out one intensity .
its not about adding all the lumens to one leaf but riseing the lumen in a total per a sq/ft

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No brother, you're not understanding.. First of all, it's "lux". which is a unit of measurement equal to 1 lumen per square meter. It is measured with a "lux" meter. A "lux" meter uses photovoltaic sensors to generate a voltage proportional to light exposure. That is how light intensity is measured. Unfortunately, at this time, we do not have a method to measure light intensity with plant leaves and translate that to luminosity.

Like I said before, you are confusing intensity with coverage. You can jam all the 1000lm bulbs you want into a space but it will still be 1000lm. The more 1000lm bulbs you use will only reduce the loss of your original 1000 lumens due to distance.

"You can jam all the 1000lm bulbs you want into a space but it will still be 1000lm. The more 1000lm bulbs you use will only reduce the loss of your original 1000 lumens due to distance"



but its like i said last time its not about getting a 1000lumen bulb to get more than 1000lumens which is impossible , and not to get 2 x 1000lumen bulbs on one leaf.
ok mayb in a lux's view but you cant say what your saying for a plants point of view.
so is it true to say a plant on average wouldnt grown bigger if the sun had the same light intensity but 2 times the mass .
No way

and if that was true a 125w 12000 lumen bulb would grow the same size plant if it was in a reflector than 5 125w 12000 lumens with or without a reflector
Dont think so

lol its like saying a (big mass) Big fire and a (small mass) Small fire has the same heat (energy) No

so is it true to say a plant on average wouldnt grown bigger if the sun had the same light intensity but 2 times the mass .
No way

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and if that was true a 125w 12000 lumen bulb would grow the same size plant if it was in a reflector than 5 125w 12000 lumens with or without a reflector
Dont think so

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If the sun increased in mass and therefore energy, then it would increase in luminosity. If there were two suns of equal size/mass/composition it would bring no increase in luminosity. Just more coverage. Therein lies the answer to your confusion, you aren't increasing the brightness of your bulb by adding another bulb, you are simply making more of the same brightness available to a larger area.

Shut the fuck up i said you cant make a 1000lumen bulb to get more than 1000lumens which is impossible but the more light the bigger the soure of light is coming from.
and to end this.
i know it doesnt increase the light intensity in the eyes of lux and you but in real life.
the a plant will Grow bigger with 5 lights at the top than 1
but why beause more mass if what your saying is TRUE than 1 bulb would grow as muchor as well as 5 lights SORRY but you say the big words but it still doesnt make sence in PRACTICE

Look you fucking simpleton, it makes perfect "sence": MORE LIGHT BULBS DOES NOT EQUAL MORE LUMENS, JUST MORE COVERAGE OF THE SAME LUMENS OVER A LARGER AREA.

I'm not bullshitting you man, I have absolutely no reason to. I'm telling you straight up, no matter how many 12000 lumen bulbs you have, or combinations of lesser lumen bulbs you will never exceed 12000 lumens, period. More lights will create a better environment for your plants only because the light can reach more areas of the plant, not because there is more intense light.

Ok yes i have come on this wrong
i know what your saying, but i fucked it up if you read my first one i think i say about the people who say theres no point in buying more lights like they was on about the doulbe headed hps.
And i still think you cant base your fact on a fux reader .

What i have been trying to say in a fucked up way lol is if you had a 125w light bulb with 12000 lumens and i had 500w with 12000 lumens but mine is 3x the size your bulb with the same lumens than my plant will show that (only work with the same light source)like cfls or hps or mh .
and i never said i can get a 1000lm bulb to go over that like i said
"1000lumen bulb to get more than 1000lumens which is impossible "

AlphaNoN said:

Look you fucking simpleton, it makes perfect "sence": MORE LIGHT BULBS DOES NOT EQUAL MORE LUMENS, JUST MORE COVERAGE OF THE SAME LUMENS OVER A LARGER AREA.

I'm not bullshitting you man, I have absolutely no reason to. I'm telling you straight up, no matter how many 12000 lumen bulbs you have, or combinations of lesser lumen bulbs you will never exceed 12000 lumens, period. More lights will create a better environment for your plants only because the light can reach more areas of the plant, not because there is more intense light.

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So, no person using flourescent bulbs is never actually using more than 5,000 lumens? (I havent seen any individual bulbs rated higher than that).

NLXSK1 said:

So, no person using flourescent bulbs is never actually using more than 5,000 lumens? (I havent seen any individual bulbs rated higher than that).

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Most CFL's 85watts and above put out 5000+ lumens, 250watt cfl's put out 15,000. Sunleaves has a 300watt (non-ballasted), but it doesn't indicate lumens. They've even got non-ballested 175watt cfl bulbs that works with a mercury vapor ballast, at walmart for $25 in the outdoor lighting section, 10,000 or 11,000lm.

125w put out 12000 lumens above the plant
https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/74968-anyone-used-these.html#post864830

On3Tim3OnLy said:

"You can jam all the 1000lm bulbs you want into a space but it will still be 1000lm. The more 1000lm bulbs you use will only reduce the loss of your original 1000 lumens due to distance"



but its like i said last time its not about getting a 1000lumen bulb to get more than 1000lumens which is impossible , and not to get 2 x 1000lumen bulbs on one leaf.
ok mayb in a lux's view but you cant say what your saying for a plants point of view.
so is it true to say a plant on average wouldnt grown bigger if the sun had the same light intensity but 2 times the mass .
No way

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So what you are saying, is that they DO add, but only to the saturation point.

1 1000lumen bulb puts out 1000lumen
10 of them still can only give 1000 lumen, but will cover a bigger area, get more light further.

A candle at 250 degrees is 250 degrees.
2 candles will still only heat a pan to 250, just do it faster.

Gee, I said that like a month ago.


The sun's mass? LOL Keep in mind the sun is a nuclear/hydrogen fusion reactor.

Using lumens to measure light output for growing purposes is somewhat off the mark. The measurement of a Lumen is based upon how the human eye perceives light and the various colors within white light. Humans are most sensitive to green light while plants are most sensitive to red and blue light. Therefore, a light giving off X lumens of greenish light will have more Lumen than another light giving off the same amount of photons but in the blue or red part of the spectrum. That being said I don't know of another approximation for the light output of a bulb that is commonly available.

yh i hear you thats what ive been saying you cant base your facts on a lux reader