Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

crisduar

crisduar

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Hello good in the end I made a mix with what I had on hand that was:
BASE MIX:
+ 70% land that had been used and recycled only with earthworm humus
and biobizz and bioblom, of the all-mix type, already had perlite.
+ 30% Earthworm Humus and added perlite.
INCREASE:
I've just put worm humus and I'm testing with Neem flour
+ I have an earthworm in motion that I feed with coffee grounds and banana peels, lettuce, aloe and what is left of the TAC, s and the SST.
FLOWERING:
+ Palm Ash (0-1-30) 333gr x 50L Base Mix
+ Guano Murcielago (2-10-1) 166gr x 50L Base Mix
I bought a guano of Jamaican bat (8-29-2) recommended dose 100gr x 30L of soil.
the problem I am having with some plants is that they have the leaves on the yellow edges and burns I have measured the ph by taking 1 pieces of soil: 2 part of water and it gave me between ph9 and ph8.7 I took some Californian worms I put them in the pots I put a layer of worm humus about 2cms wide and I have watered with TAC and SST (alfalfa and Corn) + humic and fulvic acids I think that my problem is with the alkalinity of the ash, I think it only remains for me to continue giving them TAC and SST and expect the microbiology to regulate the PH
 

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Obepawn

Obepawn

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crisduar said:
Hello good in the end I made a mix with what I had on hand that was:
BASE MIX:
+ 70% land that had been used and recycled only with earthworm humus
and biobizz and bioblom, of the all-mix type, already had perlite.
+ 30% Earthworm Humus and added perlite.
INCREASE:
I've just put worm humus and I'm testing with Neem flour
+ I have an earthworm in motion that I feed with coffee grounds and banana peels, lettuce, aloe and what is left of the TAC, s and the SST.
FLOWERING:
+ Palm Ash (0-1-30) 333gr x 50L Base Mix
+ Guano Murcielago (2-10-1) 166gr x 50L Base Mix
I bought a guano of Jamaican bat (8-29-2) recommended dose 100gr x 30L of soil.
the problem I am having with some plants is that they have the leaves on the yellow edges and burns I have measured the ph by taking 1 pieces of soil: 2 part of water and it gave me between ph9 and ph8.7 I took some Californian worms I put them in the pots I put a layer of worm humus about 2cms wide and I have watered with TAC and SST (alfalfa and Corn) + humic and fulvic acids I think that my problem is with the alkalinity of the ash, I think it only remains for me to continue giving them TAC and SST and expect the microbiology to regulate the PH
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What happened with the lower leaves bro?
 
crisduar

crisduar

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[QUOTE = "Fastslappy, publicación: 13879662, miembro: 920361"]
Tenga cuidado de que demasiada ceniza bloqueará una planta
Me sucedió
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Hello, good thanks, can you tell me how you solved it?

mil thank.
 
SCJedi

SCJedi

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crisduar said:
[QUOTE = "Fastslappy, publicación: 13879662, miembro: 920361"]
Tenga cuidado de que demasiada ceniza bloqueará una planta
Me sucedió
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Hello, good thanks, can you tell me how you solved it?

mil thank.
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Soil sulfur or peatmoss can lower the soil pH and make soil more acidic. You can also stick with your plan which is to continue to add lots of organic material and hope the biology stabilizes the pH sooner than later.

There are other amendments that you can use to speed up the process like Down To Earth's Acid Mix:

https://www.groworganic.com/acid-mix-4-3-6-6-lb-box.html (no affiliation, just an example)
 
Dear ol" Thankful Grower!

Dear ol" Thankful Grower!

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Love this thread! I do have a question if anyone has an answer! I was wondering if anyone has used doctor zymes eliminator as a soil drench or foliage spray with beneficial insects. I have some gnats and aphids but not enough lady bugs I wanted to help so I also got some nematodes and eliminator I didn't think or the product being able to kill my beneficial insects as I do have lady birds,red wigglers,and nematodes in my no till cover crop indoor grow. If it harms my predators I wont use it but if i can use it I definitely want the extra precaution,Cheers!
 
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Roseandtheseaerchon

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crisduar said:
Hello good morning, I do not speak English excuse any mistake.
I'm starting in super soil, I had land that I use with biobizz products and recycle it like this:
-70% recycled earth (it is type allmix biobizz, composana already brings perlite)
-30% earthworm humus (I added perlite)

* I can easily get:
- Palm Tree 0-1-30
- bat guano 2-10-1, I have and can get a local one that is 8-29-2.
- Neem cake in organic amendment rich in organic nitrogen based on Neem fruit cake flour and blood meal of farm animals. npk 12-0-2
- neem cake flour npk 7-1-2
I ask for help if someone can teach me to balance or adjust a recipe with local ingredients from my city.
how to know how much to put, some phosphorus amendments carry nitrogen and can block nitrogen if I have put an amendment to nitrogen before.

I just want to learn to fish, not to give me the fish.

Thank you.
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Just mix it all in add a clover cover crop let is set let tha t grow. Buy sugercane mulch and smother it. Do this like a half day before planting. Then water. Check ure run off with a ppm meter this will tell u how strong u have it also the deficiences on the plant will shod you. Hope that hdlps
 
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newguy41410

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anyone know the main difference between these two cover crop mixes? One is half clovers and the other doesn't seem to be clover-heavy but is winter tolerant I guess? Not sure if I should switch to the winter version now that it's getting colder where i'm at Outdoors.. it is cheaper but I've been running the 50% clovers all year and they've been great so far. Thoughts?

50% clovers cover crop mix - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JQC188Q
winter cover crop mix - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08178CTW8
 
Brandon137

Brandon137

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Hello all I have 4 10 gal smart pots that I need to re ammend for my next grow. I'm currently using ffof and it was new as of this round. one plant hermied on me during week 4 of flower here's what I was thinking of doing

Top dress with....
1/4 cup blood meal
1/4 cup bone meal
1.5 cups feather meal
1 cup glacial rock dust
1.5 cups kelp flour
1 cup alfalfa meal
1/2 cup oyster shell flour
1 cup of brown rice
I will then top the pots off with rinsed coco coir and ewc's probably a few cups of each

Any other suggestions?

Edit I'm also on well water which I assume is probably high in ppm
 
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Brandon137

Brandon137

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Mohican said:
Instead of blood meal I use fish meal or crab meal.
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I plan on going with fish meal next time I'm in need of ammendments any reason you go with fish meal? I used to work in the industry rasing fish for food so I have a basic understanding of how there processed and doesn't sound as scary and seems more sustainable.
 
Mohican

Mohican

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Same as blood. I also supplement with chelated iron.

I also treat my water with lemon juice and Phosphoric acid to pH 5.7. I measured the pH of rainwater here and it was 5.7.
 
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