Reasons to Vote yes on Prop 19

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
Here's the problem with you guys who are against prop 19. You guys play up and even invent falsehoods about prop 19. Just because you are against it doesn't mean you need to deny every upside of prop 19. Hard to have an honest discussion when you guys do that.

I have no problem supporting prop 19 AND admit and discuss the flaws. You guys just decided you hate it and from there deny any positives about it whether your denial is truthful or not.

Most laws, like this one are not 100% good or 100% bad. You can still be against prop 19 without denying every single benefit of it.
actually, it's you doing that.

"we will never have another chance."
"if cali passes the world will follow."
"only dealers vote no."
"the prop will be adjusted later."

blah, blah, balh, ..........
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
Sure, some places will fight it tooth and nail. Other places will embrace it and expand the legality of it beyond the legal minimums this law provides. Some counties/cities will behave corruptly and unjustly. Others will be fair and liberal with their laws. This is California and their is a diversity of opinions in this state.
places like oakland, eh? ;)
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
actually, it's you doing that.
Absolutely not. I'm willing to admit there are both pros and cons to prop 19. You guys won't admit that it does any good at all even if that means you have to spread misinformation.

Just because you had a personal bad business dealing with Richard Lee doesn't mean prop 19 is 100% evil. Like most things in life it has it's pros and cons. But it's hard to have an honest discussion with people like you who won't even admit the possibility of anything positive coming out of it.
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
places like oakland, eh? ;)
Whatever dude. You've admitted to your own personal agenda on this topic already. It's pointless to even discuss this will you since you can't see past your own person grudge against Richard Lee.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
Whatever dude. You've admitted to your own personal agenda on this topic already. It's pointless to even discuss this will you since you can't see past your own person grudge against Richard Lee.
it goes way beyond my personal agenda. i have read and understand the prop. i do NOT agree with it so i am voting no. there are 25 threads on this where i have already explained my feelings. this prop ADDS new laws that will imprison people, while letting no one who is current imprisoned go. why you would vote YES and put people in jail just so you can have your little sandwich bag full of weed, i have no idea. :neutral:
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
it goes way beyond my personal agenda. i have read and understand the prop. i do NOT agree with it so i am voting no. there are 25 threads on this where i have already explained my feelings. this prop ADDS new laws that will imprison people. why you would vote YES and put people in jail just so you can have your little sandwich bag full of weed, i have no idea. :neutral:
Yeah, it puts people in jail who sell weed to kids. boohooo.

To pretend this law is some fascist plot just because you can get in trouble for not having the common decency to put your stash away around playgrounds is pretty absurd.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
Yeah, it puts people in jail who sell weed to kids. boohooo.

To pretend this law is some fascist plot just because you can get in trouble for not having the common decency to put your stash away around playgrounds is pretty absurd.
what are you talking about? :roll:

as you accuse this side of "inventing falsehoods". now you gotta throw the "save the children" out there. pretty much an act of desperation. :sleep:

see you in Nov. :cool:
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
what are you talking about? :roll:

as you accuse this side of "inventing falsehoods". now you gotta throw the "save the children" out there. pretty much an act of desperation. :sleep:
Well you claim that this law will put more people in jail. The part of the bill that has that capability is the regulations against giving it to the underaged. If that's not what you were talking about then perhaps you'd like to explain further.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
Well you claim that this law will put more people in jail. The part of the bill that has that capability is the regulations against giving it to the underaged. If that's not what you were talking about then perhaps you'd like to explain further.
you are attacking and accusing me without a clue to what i was referring to. it is YOU sir, who is undebatable. good day.


bongsmilie
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
you are attacking and accusing me without a clue to what i was referring to. it is YOU sir, who is undebatable. good day.


bongsmilie
So I ask you to back up your baseless claim that more people will be sent to jail because of this law and you refuse. lol. That's what I thought.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
So I ask you to back up your baseless claim that more people will be sent to jail because of this law and you refuse. lol. That's what I thought.
you have done nothing but attack and attempt to insult me. i'm voting no dude. i have no reason to argue with you about it. i am not trying to sway you, and my mind is made up. not much more to go on about, is there?

bongsmilie
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
you have done nothing but attack and attempt to insult me. i'm voting no dude. i have no reason to argue with you about it.
I'm attacking what you're saying. It isn't true that this law will send more people to jail (aside from people who are exposing kids to it of course). And yes, I'm attacking you because you're willing to say ANYTHING regardless of if it's true or not as long as it makes prop 19 sound bad. That's a dishonest mentality and you should be called out for spreading misinformation.

I don't care how you're voting. I do care that you spread falsehoods.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
I'm attacking what you're saying. It isn't true that this law will send more people to jail (aside from people who are exposing kids to it of course). And yes, I'm attacking you because you're willing to say ANYTHING regardless of if it's true or not as long as it makes prop 19 sound bad. That's a dishonest mentality and you should be called out for spreading misinformation.

I don't care how you're voting. I do care that you spread falsehoods.
since when is an 18 year old a child?
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
When they go into a bar. See what happens if a cop catches you buying alcohol for a minor.
we are discussing marijuana, not booze.

this forum allows people 18 and over to join and post. to me 18 is an adult. there is one good reason for me to vote NO.

there, you happy now? i'm voting NO.

:)
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
we are discussing marijuana, not booze.

this forum allows people 18 and over to join and post. to me 18 is an adult.

:)
Should you be able to sell weed to someone who is 18? Maybe maybe not. That's debatable. If you think you should that's understandable.

But that's not my problem with what you're saying. You're spinning that into something that isn't true. If you get caught selling weed to an 18 year old now you'll go to jail. If you get caught selling weed to an 18 year old after this becomes law, same result. Under this law it allows you to do something that you would go to jail for now, selling to someone over 21. Yet you're all over here misrepresenting the truth saying that it'll send more people to jail because you can be arrested for selling to someone under 21. Well you can be sent to jail for that now. So what you're saying just isn't true.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
Should you be able to sell weed to someone who is 18? Maybe maybe not. That's debatable. If you think you should that's understandable.

But that's not my problem with what you're saying. You're spinning that into something that isn't true. If you get caught selling weed to an 18 year old now you'll go to jail. If you get caught selling weed to an 18 year old after this becomes law, same result. Under this law it allows you to do something that you would go to jail for now, selling to someone over 21. Yet you're all over here misrepresenting the truth saying that it'll send more people to jail because you can be arrested for selling to someone under 21. Well you can be sent to jail for that now. So what you're saying just isn't true.
who the hell said anything about selling? keep making shit up. :roll:

i haven't spun anything.
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
who the hell said anything about selling?.
Well you won't tell me who all these mythical people who are going to be sent to jail over prop19 are, so I have to assume you're talking about the age restrictions being that this is the only conceivable way anyone could be sent to jail over prop 19.
 
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