Question about Biobizz Soil and Nutes at 3weeks of Veg.
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Badjaka22
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Thanks for positive comments guys!
Do you think I should veg them for 3 more weeks? my room is 5ft (180cm) tall, if I veg them for 3 more weeks before i switch to 12/12 ( i want to maximize yield ) are they going to be too big?
I think I did somewhat good LST so should be a problem?
Or should I give them 2 more weeks and switch to 12/12?
I know this things are very hard to predict, and etc but, they arent still very tall because I did much lst on them, so I'm wondering if giving 2-3 more weeks of veg would be a good choice.
Do you think I should veg them for 3 more weeks? my room is 5ft (180cm) tall, if I veg them for 3 more weeks before i switch to 12/12 ( i want to maximize yield ) are they going to be too big?
I think I did somewhat good LST so should be a problem?Or should I give them 2 more weeks and switch to 12/12?
I know this things are very hard to predict, and etc but, they arent still very tall because I did much lst on them, so I'm wondering if giving 2-3 more weeks of veg would be a good choice.
Bigby
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One good tip to control stretch once you flip to flower is to get some pipe cleaners and some small weights - small fishing weights are perfect. Attach the smallest weight to one end of the pipe cleaner, then bend down the top (or one of the tops) of the plant and attach the pipe cleaner loosely on the stem, keeping it bent down. The weight can be gradually increased, and moved as stretching occurs. This technique has the added benefit of creating a stronger, supportive cup for the cola to form on.
Bilbo Baggins
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Thanks for all the info on this thread guys, its like manna from heaven. I've grew in all mix for ten years, use bio grow, used bio bloom but never used top max as I've always had some freebie samples of various other products given to me by the local grow shop. Tell me guys please, because I've read a few negative reports on top max, mainly saying it don't make much difference, but I reckon I will get good feedback from all you BioBizz growers--is top max worth it ? does it make a difference ? if so I stand corrected, reckon I should be adding it to my grow just now if the answer is affirmative. ty all
Bigby
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I used Top Max until the bottle was used up. Didn't notice any difference either way really, can't see the point in getting it again. I did notice the Alg A Mix made a big difference for me when I introduced it. But then I don't think I'd been giving micro nutrients before that.
Bilbo Baggins
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TY Bigby, that's mostly what I heard, to be fair I'm happy to keep on using BioGrow and BioBloom because I'm used to them and know they don't cause any problems. It was amazing to read of the other things that Biobizz users had issues with like Magnesium having to be added at the exact time as my own experience had taught me and yellowing bottom leaves kicking in at the same time, I'll keep basically using BioBloom as and when the grow dictates, In this sense I follow the same path as you, I up or down the Biogrow depending on whether the plant looks like it needs more N, and if anyone uses a bloom booster apart from Top Max then lets hear it. I'm always ready to experiment a wee bit. ty all
automated
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tbh I have no clue about the topmax being extra beneficial.
But I did notice this:
When in the beginning of adding topmax I kinda got the idea the buds smell became less after a week. (no negative growth effect or anything)
Then when i had to lower on the nutes, and didnt give any for a near week in a row, the smell returned.
Later I added again, and now I again hardly smell the buds. (unless I touch them hehe)
I don't know if someone experienced the same, or if its related, but that kinda lingered in my head.
But I did notice this:
When in the beginning of adding topmax I kinda got the idea the buds smell became less after a week. (no negative growth effect or anything)
Then when i had to lower on the nutes, and didnt give any for a near week in a row, the smell returned.
Later I added again, and now I again hardly smell the buds. (unless I touch them hehe)
I don't know if someone experienced the same, or if its related, but that kinda lingered in my head.
Badjaka22
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Guys check this out:
I've noticed yellowing on almost every plant's lower leaves. Is this a sign that they need BioGrow?
Also as you can see on the pics, my Female Seeds Purple Maroc, which typically is an outdoor strain, has very strange white spot on her leaves. I use humiditifier during the light period to keep humidity at 55-60%. Is this humidity too high for them now? What can be the reason for this white spots?
I've noticed yellowing on almost every plant's lower leaves. Is this a sign that they need BioGrow?
Also as you can see on the pics, my Female Seeds Purple Maroc, which typically is an outdoor strain, has very strange white spot on her leaves. I use humiditifier during the light period to keep humidity at 55-60%. Is this humidity too high for them now? What can be the reason for this white spots?
Bigby
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I was already confident that not buying any more was a good decision, that re-enforces it nicely.
Bigby
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Sometimes the leaves are just not needed any more. My kolossus seems to extend the leaf stems to a certain point and if enough light is not forthcoming just gives up on them. Are the yellow leaves in the shade on the plant? That could explain it.
If it is only a small percentage yellowing, rather than a pattern, then it is not likely a deficiency imo.
Bilbo Baggins
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Not sure about the white spot pic there mate, but pic 19 and 21 there deinately show nitrogen deficiency, don't know if you are already using Biogrow and if your growing in all mix but the Biobizz recommendation is you give 1mL per Litre right through the whole grow flowering included. And like Bigby says, keep an eye on them and if lower leafs look like they are turning then up the does of Biogrow next water. Despite doing this myself I still cant stop yellowing leaves at the end of flowering, but I find it helps keep the yellow at bay for most of the grow. Except for the period around pics 9-18 where they look a bit droopy your plants look fine , maybe needing a nitrogen boost
Bigby
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You can leave them (no pun intended lol) until they go completely pale and drop off. Or pull them off when you identify that they've turned (I do this, because I want any and all potential sources of decay removed as early as possible).
It is beneficial once stretching has stopped in flowering to do a bit of thinning out, by selecting the yellowing leaves to do this with you are not really stressing the plant as you aid it and your needs. So to remove a few in veg could equally be justifiable.
Bigby
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I like this reply. Works as good complimentary advice to mine (imo).
My advice is coming from the 'it's easy to over think things' perspective, and Bilbo's advice makes sure you know its important to be vigilant at the same time. Both equally important. Make sure the plants get all the nutrients they need, but don't over water in the quest to put right a perceived failing as a grower. Plants work on a different time span, and learning as a grower takes mistakes!
(not saying either of those things are definitely the case here - but equally, they could be 
)
Bigby
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It's time to feed my kolossus and I noticed an opportunity to illustrate my point. See the leaf here, it has a really long stem, and is now yellowing. That is because it is struggling to obtain enough light.
Once the plant has given up on the leaf as a photosynthesis source, it becomes susceptible to whatever mould spores may be in your grow area. There is slight necrosis on that leaf. One other older fan leaf was affected, from more within the middle of the plant, and as you can see, the effects of the necrosis are more evident on this one.
Only those two leaves affected though. At week 7 of 12/12. So my regime of high dose 'Grow' and 'Bloom' along with 'Alg A Mix' each feed seems to be doing the trick. I will add a little 'Bloom Cal/Mag' this feed to address the slight issue though.
Once the plant has given up on the leaf as a photosynthesis source, it becomes susceptible to whatever mould spores may be in your grow area. There is slight necrosis on that leaf. One other older fan leaf was affected, from more within the middle of the plant, and as you can see, the effects of the necrosis are more evident on this one.
Only those two leaves affected though. At week 7 of 12/12. So my regime of high dose 'Grow' and 'Bloom' along with 'Alg A Mix' each feed seems to be doing the trick. I will add a little 'Bloom Cal/Mag' this feed to address the slight issue though.
Bilbo Baggins
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exactly--ive got a few like that myself,check the big yellowing leaf at the bottom of this Trainwreck baby, no matter how you try I think the bottom leaves not getting much light are '' rejected '' by the plant. You can save most of them through vigilant nitrogen feeding but you cant save them all.