Quantum Boards / Too much Yapping no proof

Aeroknow said:

100% yes

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With the 1930's you can keep them at the same height as your DE's and leave them, no adjusting. Thats a big plus for me with the DE rooms. I love that they are up high, out of the way, and I never have to adjust the height.

HippieDudeRon said:

Literally read what thread you're in man. Why are you here? Stop running from the question at hand...which is completely on topic.

Where are any of the alleged dozens of side by sides?

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Im here for a laugh. There are tons of side by sides of led vs hps. If you can't find any thats on you. Not my job to prove nada to you. Sorry if that offends you.

Norml56 said:

Always been curious about the real benefits of running Coco. I'm just never home consistently enough to run a full cycle without needing to hand the reigns to a friend for a week or 2. Much easier if the help just has to water and keep an eye on temps/humidity. Right now I'm just supplementing with Down to Earth Bloom in flower, and the all-purpose fertilizer in veg. Seems to be working out fairly well until I can get my soil squared away.

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I run FloraFlex pot pro 8 inch pots and water up to 4x a day when they reach full flower. Everything is automated and ran off timers. I refill my res once a week.

This run im running a group of 3 gallon FloraFlex pots next to the 8 inch pot pros to see the difference. I only water the 3 gallon pots once a day.

PJ Diaz said:

3.1EC??? That sounds insane, unless you are talking about EC at the medium. You irrigate with 3.1EC? I personally reverse that and feed 1.3EC, and my plants are totally happy.

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Yea, it sounds crazy until i saw people doing it on instagram and FloraFlex themselves post about it frequently. I run CO2 as well and try to push for huge yields. Im by no means an expert grower and am still learning but I like the results so far.

EC 3.5 lmao

its autofire's secret feed formula
hes back!
lmfao ec 2.4 in veg. ya oook bud

rkymtnman said:

EC 3.5 lmao

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Jjgrow420 said:

its autofire's secret feed formula
hes back!
lmfao ec 2.4 in veg. ya oook bud

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I don't understand. Are y'all saying that im lying? FloraFlex recommends this themselves with LED's. I'm happy with my results as well.

never heard of someone feeding 3.5ec without major issues. anything more.than 1.8-2.0 and ill get burn
maybe your nutes.are shit full of filler garb.
dunno. never heard of floraflex.
you run co2? in a sealed room from a tank?

PJ Diaz said:

If you're running in coco, you should be feeding multiple times a day with an automated system, so your buddy would only need to refil the res once a week.

3.1EC??? That sounds insane, unless you are talking about EC at the medium. You irrigate with 3.1EC? I personally reverse that and feed 1.3EC, and my plants are totally happy.

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Interesting. I typically run 14 in flower and anywhere from 25 to 30 in veg. What size res would be needed for something like that? I'm assuming they need to also mix nutes and pH for the res. Also, what's the backup plan if/when systems fail?

Jjgrow420 said:

never heard of someone feeding 3.5ec without major issues. anything more.than 1.8-2.0 and ill get burn
maybe your nutes.are shit full of filler garb.
dunno. never heard of floraflex.
you run co2? in a sealed room from a tank?

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Look them up. Pretty popular brand TBH. Very clean nutes. I've ran them at 1.8 EC and they work fine. I like to experiment. The main reason I use their nutes is because they are ridiculously stable. I mix my res and can pretty much forget about it for a week (not that i do) and the PH won't change at all.

Norml56 said:

Interesting. I typically run 14 in flower and anywhere from 25 to 30 in veg. What size res would be needed for something like that? I'm assuming they need to also mix nutes and pH for the res. Also, what's the backup plan if/when systems fail?

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I run my system on drain tables. 16 plants in 8 inch pot pros per table. I like to experiment so im always mixing things up but this is what i have running right now. Each table runs off a 35 gallon reservoir. The only place that would have a serious failure is the water pump. They're about $30. I keep a backup on hand just in case but haven't had any problems yet. I have 6 HLG 330 QBXL V specs in this room.

Go check out the FloraFlex website. Super clean setup with the pots and irrigation system options they have. The nutrients are the most PH stable nutes ive ever ran.

Norml56 said:

Interesting. I typically run 14 in flower and anywhere from 25 to 30 in veg. What size res would be needed for something like that? I'm assuming they need to also mix nutes and pH for the res. Also, what's the backup plan if/when systems fail?

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The size res needed depends on number of plants. I use a 15 gal res for a 4x4 tent, and fill it up once to twice a week depending on how big and what stage the plants are at. I have circulation pumps in the res to mix nutes, and I adjust ph when I mix nutes, and they don't really drift much, although I do check ph throughout the week. If for some reason the system fails (power outage, pump fail, timer mishap, etc), you can always revert to handwatering until you can fix your system.

Blazin Budz said:

I run my system on drain tables. 16 plants in 8 inch pot pros per table. I like to experiment so im always mixing things up but this is what i have running right now. Each table runs off a 35 gallon reservoir. The only place that would have a serious failure is the water pump. They're about $30. I keep a backup on hand just in case but haven't had any problems yet. I have 6 HLG 330 QBXL V specs in this room.

Go check out the FloraFlex website. Super clean setup with the pots and irrigation system options they have. The nutrients are the most PH stable nutes ive ever ran.

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Hmm I don't think have the space available for that big of a res.

Rocket Soul said:

I'm starting to assume you have some problems, unrelated to this issue. I do not think you have an actual interest in anything but arguing online. Do your own work and find out for yourself. You don't seem to be a troll. But I would need you to supply some kinda of proof of being A-OK before continuing this.

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You jumped in to fight someones battle and didn't even have the ammo. Now you're backing out...ok dude, who's not alright!? You're worthless here...no need to continue failing.

PJ Diaz said:

It seems pretty clear that you haven't grown with LED's yet, and are concerned about quality. How about you throw up a nice pic of your best quality, and we'll see what LED growers can show "side-by-side".

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Wow dude, you're clueless. And off topic. And off base.

budman410 said:

I second this..

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thenotsoesoteric said:

Im here for a laugh. There are tons of side by sides of led vs hps. If you can't find any thats on you. Not my job to prove nada to you. Sorry if that offends you.

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Another worthless user. No contributions and is arguing about the thread topic he came into???what is wrong with you? why are you here?
You second what...not having any side by sides and being completely wrong about what you're now dragging off topic with ?

PJ Diaz said:

I still wanna see the amazing quality buds this master hps grower produces.

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What HPS grower you talking about...I don't see any here? But see a lot of liars and fakes trying to be cool by looking like idiots. You have no side by sides, and are self conscious and afraid of "HPS growers" attacking you. Though still not sure where there is an HPS grower attacking you here? Do you?

Still don't know how that means someone can say there are dozens of side by sides showing HPS losing every time yet nobody has a single one. Just a bunch of excuses and tears. And still wondering how me asking for the alleged side by sides means I am an HPS grower. Or that I don't wipe the floor with you all while running LEDs? Why can't I do that and still want to see the alleged dozens of side by sides showing hps losing every time?

So again after all this you have had another day to come to the table with something. And all of you failed miserably. Pathetically actually. Not surprised though...PAR for the course here.

HippieDudeRon said:

You jumped in to fight someones battle and didn't even have the ammo. Now you're backing out...ok dude, who's not alright!?

Wow dude, you're clueless. And off topic. And off base.

You second what...not having any side by sides and being completely wrong about what you're now dragging off topic with ?

What HPS grower you talking about...I don't see any here? But see a lot of liars and fakes trying to be cool by looking like idiots. YOu have no side by sides, and are self conscious and afraid of "HPS growers" attacking you. Though still not sure where there is an HPS grower atatcking you here? Do you?

Still don't know how that means someone can say there are dozens of side by sides showing HPS losing every time yet nobody has a single one. Just a bunch of excuses and tears. And still wondering how me asking for the alleged side by sides means I am an HPS grower. OPR don't wipe the floor with you all with LEDs? why can't I do that and still want to see the alleged dozens of side by sides showing hps losing every time?

So again after all this you have had another day to come to the table with something. And all of you failed miserably. Pathetically actually. Not surprised though...PAR for the course here.

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I don't know what you're on about. Side by sides is what you're all hung up on? Why? Get over it and focus on the prize. Side-by-sides? SMH.

Side by sides are meaningless when it comes to LED vs HPS grows. They are two completely different environments with different requirements. So, which environment would your precious side-by-side lean towards?

You are true to the thread title yourself though: "Too much yapping.."

PJ Diaz said:

I don't know what you're on about. Side by sides is what you're all hung up on? Why? Get over it and focus on the prize. Side-by-sides? SMH.

Side by sides are meaningless when it comes to LED vs HPS grows. They are two completely different environments with different requirements. So, which environment would your precious side-by-side lean towards?

You are true to the thread title yourself though: "Too much yapping.."

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Dude, I didn't ask for them out of the blue. Dude claimed there were dozens showing hps losing every time. I asked to see a few/..and everyone is throwing a hissy fit to do anything but show a couple side by sides

Know one asked you to know anything. You're here knowing nothing about the topic all on your own.

Side by sides can be completely separate rooms. Literally sharing walls, but completely different climates if need be. Or can be more single variable controlled. Stop trying to make excuses. You're arguing about perfection when you have zero to show. zero is alway zero...and that is what you have given this topic.

HippieDudeRon said:

Dude, I didn't ask for them out of the blue. Dude claimed there were dozens showing hps losing every time. I asked to see a few/..and everyone is throwing a hissy fit to do anything but show a couple side by sides

Know one asked you to know anything. You're here knowing nothing about the topic all on your own.

Side by sides can be completely separate rooms. Literally sharing walls, but completely different climates if need be. Or can be more single variable controlled. Stop trying to make excuses. You're arguing about perfection when you have zero to show. zero is alway zero...and that is what you have given this topic.

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You're right I have zero side by sides to show, because side by sides are stupid. I have a decade of growing under HPS and over a year growing with LED. The difference is clear, no side by sides needed.

PJ Diaz said:

You're right I have zero side by sides to show, because side by sides are stupid. I have a decade of growing under HPS and over a year growing with LED. The difference is clear, no side by sides needed.

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Wow...great come back dude. Very mature. You do realize that you came here to do nothin but be off topic and unproductive?
So would you say the guy who claimed there were dozens of side by sides showing hps losing every time doesn't actually have anything to show either??

AND BTW...Just to be clear, you have shown nothing. On topic or off topic...nothing so far. Just an observation.

ComfortCreator said:

Well the truth is the very best indoor growers...the ones with the most experience were doing this well before LEDs were worth jack. So all the best growers from 10+ years ago learned and mastered HID lighting. Being a master at something requires time.

LEDs have obv benefits to new growers, the simplest being safety. That has nothing to do with end quality but explains why so many skip the cheaper option.

From a quality standpoint I have yet to see or believe anybody grows BETTER cannabis with LEDs. They may grow more, it may be more cost effective, but actual quality is not BETTER.

This from a relatively new grower, only grown myself with LEDs. Have observed HID grows for decades. Have sampled from around the country/world for 35yrs.

Simply put, it is different. The gent about to go from HPS to a Diablo will be able to keep plants at a foot away vs HID distance. What an adjustment to get used to!

Quantum boards do great. But to think they are better or worse...its just another option.

For most people who live in climates with 4 seasons or in particularly cold climates, there is another obvious option of both, changing them out for seasons. That's more work, but for those with cold climates I cant imagine a more efficient setup than HPS in the cold and LEDs when it gets warm.

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I used to keep my 1k se hpe 6 to 8 inches from tops. On mover which had to stay on after lights out or ld fry which ever plant was closest to. Hanging static ld say about 18-20 inches awaMy usable umol is around 1080, light spec is for 1482 umol. It too is only about 6 inches from tops, no freaking out, full power. Plants are packing it on. Specs say 12 inches. So l let them grow into it, spider type big fan on roof good airflow, no burning yet. My grow has gotten 99% easier since l went to led. I hand water too, lm stuck in the 80s, lol Always been single light grower except when mixing mh and hps, was only rememberable grow, hard buds no pm. Ive failed hps more than anybody in history.

HippieDudeRon said:

Wow...great come back dude. Very mature. You do realize that you came here to do nothin but be off topic and unproductive?
So would you say the guy who claimed there were dozens of side by sides showing hps losing every time doesn't actually have anything to show either??

AND BTW...Just to be clear, you have shown nothing. On topic or off topic...nothing so far. Just an observation.

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Here you go, LED grown,,

lm drooling, in love again. Who is she?