Quality Over Quantity

TreeFarmerCharlie said:

I can understand people who grow some autos in a tent, to see how they grow and produce, but I also find it strange when some growers only grow autos indoors and don’t grow photos. They make a lot more sense to me for outdoor grows, though, particularly in areas that get too cold and damp before photos are ready for harvest. I’m trying some outdoors this year along with a couple of photos.

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Yes where i live the season is just to short and ends to quickly for the vast majority of photo strains. I started with autos because I read so much information about how they are better for new growers. They arent. They are finicky little cunts.

JoeBlow5823 said:

Yes where i live the season is just to short and ends to quickly for the vast majority of photo strains. I started with autos because I read so much information about how they are better for new growers. They arent. They are finicky little cunts.

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I swear the autoflower breeders have been pushing that idea more than ever recently. The amount of new growers recently, who think autos are easier to learn to grow with, has been staggering. It makes me want to bang my head against the wall.

TreeFarmerCharlie said:

I swear the autoflower breeders have been pushing that idea more than ever recently. The amount of new growers recently, who think autos are easier to learn to grow with, has been staggering. It makes me want to bang my head against the wall.

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I for one an a new grower and started with autos indoors. Not because I thought they were easier but because of the constant light cycle. I am limited to 4 plants per household so I wanted to learn something about them and than put 4 plants outside at my cottage. Sadly due to restrictions of the pandemic my plans have been put on hold until next year. What is nice about autos indoors is you can start different plants in the same tent at different stages. My fist plant harvested a little over a week ago and second is just starting to flower. That is the main reason I went with autos. I think that photos are definatly more forgiving as you can heal them during veg and give you more training options however I do think autos have a great purpose and from what I have read they are much better these days than they were in the past.

Doug Dawson said:

I for one an a new grower and started with autos indoors. Not because I thought they were easier but because of the constant light cycle. I am limited to 4 plants per household so I wanted to learn something about them and than put 4 plants outside at my cottage. Sadly due to restrictions of the pandemic my plans have been put on hold until next year. What is nice about autos indoors is you can start different plants in the same tent at different stages. My fist plant harvested a little over a week ago and second is just starting to flower. That is the main reason I went with autos. I think that photos are definatly more forgiving as you can heal them during veg and give you more training options however I do think autos have a great purpose and from what I have read they are much better these days than they were in the past.

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Theyve gotten better but still nothing like a good photo strain.

Doug Dawson said:

I for one an a new grower and started with autos indoors. Not because I thought they were easier but because of the constant light cycle. I am limited to 4 plants per household so I wanted to learn something about them and than put 4 plants outside at my cottage. Sadly due to restrictions of the pandemic my plans have been put on hold until next year. What is nice about autos indoors is you can start different plants in the same tent at different stages. My fist plant harvested a little over a week ago and second is just starting to flower. That is the main reason I went with autos. I think that photos are definatly more forgiving as you can heal them during veg and give you more training options however I do think autos have a great purpose and from what I have read they are much better these days than they were in the past.

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What a lot of new growers don’t realize, though, is that 4 plants at a time is more than enough for a personal grow. I can have 12 plants going at a time but I very rarely grow more than 4 at a time. I haven’t been anywhere close to having a shortage of weed and I give a lot away to friends. The closest I came to running low, was when I took a break from growing for a few months, but I still had 6oz-8oz in my storage chest.

TreeFarmerCharlie said:

What a lot of new growers don’t realize, though, is that 4 plants at a time is more than enough for a personal grow. I can have 12 plants going at a time but I very rarely grow more than 4 at a time. I haven’t been anywhere close to having a shortage of weed and I give a lot away to friends. The closest I came to running low, was when I took a break from growing for a few months, but I still had 6oz-8oz in my storage chest.

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I would tend to agree with that. I just chopped my first plant which was a Northern Lights auto, I stated with that one because it was a free pack of seeds with my order. It is curing now but after drying gave me 3.5 oz of good bud. The one I have now is an Early Miss auto and is much larger. Even if you took the yield of my first ever plant and got that from 4 plants it would give me 14 oz and if I only do 2 runs a year which is my plan as summer is too busy I still would end up with 28 oz. Personally that is more than I need and I would imagine I can improve those yields with more experience. Even more so if I used photos and did some training with them. You make a very good point.

JoeBlow5823 said:

Theyve gotten better but still nothing like a good photo strain.

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I could not argue with that. Photos do give you unlimited time to train and heal before flipping the switch.

Doug Dawson said:

I could not argue with that. Photos do give you unlimited time to train and heal before flipping the switch.

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Im talking overall quality of finished product. Autos will likely never be as potent as their photo counterparts.

JoeBlow5823 said:

Im talking overall quality of finished product. Autos will likely never be as potent as their photo counterparts.

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I understand. Even the seed banks show the difference. For example it lists White Widow Auto at 21.1% THC while White Widow Photo is listed as 24.1. You make a very good point.

Doug Dawson said:

I understand. Even the seed banks show the difference. For example it lists White Widow Auto at 21.1% THC while White Widow Photo is listed as 24.1. You make a very good point.

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i bet its hard to make a difference between 21.1 and 24.1, youll be dead both ways lol

Mr. Cheetah said:

i bet its hard to make a difference between 21.1 and 24.1, youll be dead both ways lol

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LOL, we soldier on and take our chances.

LinguaPeel said:

Not sure about quality with a name like Fast Buds, or a seed knockoff of a lame strain.

What's the deal with autos being shilled online? Never seen anyone grow autoflower indoor other than these internet grow forums. Weird. It's windowbox/porch weed. I mean you've got a tent, I can see it. A timer is 10 bucks.

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It's wild...The arrogance of people who have likely never grown an Autoflower in their life...perhaps I've misunderstood the "porch weed" comments?

You cross a Gorilla Glue photo with pretty much anything a few years back...pheno hunt out 5 or 6 generations and you're likely able to track down something that can pretty near compete with Elite cuts...and that's over a short time frame

Now...Auto's have been bred actively for 35 or so years...A little persistence in the hands of someone who knows what they're doing and you're good to go...You don't think so? Notice a company like Ace Seeds, one of the premier purveyors of Landrace strains, selling "Autoflowers"? No way!!

Why do you think that is?

Auto's have been around since the 80's...(how many generation could that be?) and you're telling me with the rudy basically been bred out as much as it has to the point that pretty much just the Auto trigger is left..that its crap?

And you're giving a lecture?

No question..photos have some advantages, and should be the preferred method of growing commercially for the sake of consistency using clones...but for you to belittle other growers and degrade Autos in general..Shows how little you really know about them..

I would'nt be at all surprised if you couldnt tell the difference between decent quality photo and auto weed. There are auto strains testing in the high 27-28%+...which surpass what most people are growing these days..

Not trying to offend...just tired of all the ignorance floating around...Same mind set as others criticizing us for smoking cannabis...thinking its infinitely worse than alcohol since legalization..yet they've never tried it!

Toad

I’ll believe an auto with a 21% THC when a certified lab posts those results. I like screwing with autos outside because here in Alaska no photo is going to finish outdoors. But these autos do. An auto is a time bomb nobody can stop. If the sun was not free and constant here in summer I wouldn’t even grow them for fun. I’ve reaped some good autos with killer tastes. Just not enough to make it my main grow.

Mephisto Genetics has some pretty solid Autos..this is one of their more potent ones

Ok, I'm in. I have a good hiding spot but there is a huge security light 30 feet away so photos would never work. I'm gonna throw a auto in there for shits and giggles.

Just make sure it gets lots of sun as Autos are programmed to finish ASAP..

Best of Luck...

If i lived in Alaska or too far north i would use pots with a light deprivation system. With all that sunlight are you kidding me? Run them from 7am to 7pm then to a dark room. Or you could shave it down to 10 hours are even 8 and still get good buds. Like a 8-4 pm schedule. Give them 24 hours of t-12 and sunlight the first 2 or 3 weeks to put size on them then flower.

nc208 said:

Nope, sorry but Autos will never replace photoperiod seeds EVER.

Unless you have a secret to keeping mother's alive with Autos?

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lol this reminds me of when in school teachers would Tell us we can’t use a calculator because in the real world you won’t walk around with one in your pocket....boy they never could’ve imagined a smartphone

it may not seem feasible right now, hell a potent auto that yielded over 2oz was unheard of back in the day. But here we are. All I’m saying is never say never because there’s some smart people in the world who create and make things we would never imagine.

Nobody knows what cannabis cultivation will look like in 20 years. As much as you want to THINK things will always be they won’t.

I'd have to agree..there are times when photos are going to be the better choice..primarily for commercial growers...For example, clones...

BUT to refer to autos as garbage shows how little some know..

Show me an auto that can approach, let alone bust, the 30% barrier.

hotrodharley said:

I’ll believe an auto with a 21% THC when a certified lab posts those results.

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I won't, way too many testing companies that will take money in exchange for results.