Pulling a clone from plant ready to harvest

TheBFA

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Hello, this is my first post here and I just got done with my first harvest, for the most part. I had 5 Ruby Red Gorilla Bubble plants going with 3 under two HPS lights at 600watts each, and the other two under a 600W COB setup. It's looking like I might have about 8 pounds. But along with these, I had 5 blueberry satellites going and cut 2 down already a couple days before the rest. I have 3 more of those I'm planning on cutting today. I had 10 clones going of these blues as of about 3 weeks ago, but based on the low yield and some less than grand feedback, I and another buddy decided we didn't want to continue with this phenotype, and with an over abundance of clones going on in my blue room, I gave these all away.

But, the flavor and smell is just ridiculous with this blueberry, and is the most blueberry smelling one I've ever smelled. It's come up that it's now a wanted phenotype in my circle, as it's the "best blueberry they've ever seen". So now I want to bring it back. I haven't heard back from the guy I gave the clones to, who I know couldn't handle flowering all of them at the same time with his setup, so shouldn't have an issue giving me one back, if he hasn't purged plants he isn't going to keep. But just in case, I wanted to see if I could pull a couple clippings from these before I chop them down. I've heard of being able to bring a clipping back to veg, with a delay in root development, but not sure of the best method to try. Like would going straight to 24 hours of light work better or 18/6, or maybe transition from 18/6 to 24? And should the bud be removed or left on the clipping? I'm going to try to find a small, less developed branch low on the stem, and do this regardless, but would rather go in with some prior knowledge to increase the chances of it working, instead of a science experiment. Just looking to get a mama plant going, as I've heard the clones from a flowering plant don't turn out to be great plants, but their subsequent clones are fine. Thanks for any help in advance.

Here are some pics of the blueberry satellite I'd like to clone. It's not as developed as it should be as far as size because I kind of rushed this into flowering to try to keep it close to the same schedule as the rest, but these were extremely healthy plants and didn't get even one spec of discoloration until I started the water flush and drying to prepare to cut. Today is day 57 of flowering for them. The pic of the underdeveloped buds is where I want to take a cutting from.
 

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blake9999

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Just take a clone from it and put it under 24 hours of light. If it's flowering it may take a few weeks to reveg but it will. Then you have your mama plant. bongsmilie
 

TheBFA

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Just take a clone from it and put it under 24 hours of light. If it's flowering it may take a few weeks to reveg but it will. Then you have your mama plant. bongsmilie
I appreciate it. So you know if I should remove the bud or leave it?
 

xtsho

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You can do it. Cut it and put it in indirect light not directly under a light. It will take it some time to reveg but it's done all the time.
I think you're being extremely optimistic about getting 8 pounds from your plants.
 

TheBFA

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You can do it. Cut it and put it in indirect light not directly under a light. It will take it some time to reveg but it's done all the time.
I think you're being extremely optimistic about getting 8 pounds from your plants.
I'm actually under estimating at 8 pounds. This is 5 plants, no bullshit. 3 of them took up an entire 4x8 table, and were about 6 feet tall. The other two were on a 4x8 table and I had two of the blueberry plants on there too. My buddy and I just trimmed all of this by hand over an 18 hour period and we didn't sleep at all Friday night.
 

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GroErr

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Very unlikely that you'll get a clone to root at this stage, have tried a few different methods without success. I have been able to clone up to about 6 weeks into flowering, but after that clones are difficult. Any strain/pheno could be an exception of course but I wouldn't depend on it.

More typical success at this stage is a re-veg of the original plant. Cut most of the buds/colas off. But make sure you leave some plant material and buds on any branches that you leave.

Many references around for re-vegging plants but Coles notes version:
  • Transplant, score root ball, even cut off up to 1/3rd of it
  • Put under 24/0 until it re-vegges
 

TheBFA

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I'm new to growing, but fairly competent in all sciences, and my buddy has been growing for about 7 years. He's kind of OCD and has put together his own regiment that I'm following. He always says no one believes the yield he gets with the amount of wattage he uses with leds. He's averaging over 2 lbs per plant with the Ruby Red Gorilla Bubble, and he is only running 1200 watts of light.
 

TheBFA

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Very unlikely that you'll get a clone to root at this stage, have tried a few different methods without success. I have been able to clone up to about 6 weeks into flowering, but after that clones are difficult. Any strain/pheno could be an exception of course but I wouldn't depend on it.

More typical success at this stage is a re-veg of the original plant. Cut most of the buds/colas off. But make sure you leave some plant material and buds on any branches that you leave.

Many references around for re-vegging plants but Coles notes version:
  • Transplant, score root ball, even cut off up to 1/3rd of it
  • Put under 24/0 until it re-vegges
I think I'd rather try this. It would be very beneficial to me if I could get a viable clone in less than 3 weeks, and new growth on an existing plant would probably be faster than trying to get a cutting to become a mama. Thanks!
 

TheBFA

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Well, just got a reply back from the guy I gave the clones to, and he has two left he didn't put into flowering, so I'm good to go most likely. Just need to check the condition before chopping down these plants.
 

Herbacultttt3333

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I've done both methods and have had success, with the flowering clones you need to be very very patient but as long as you baby them it usually turns out just fine
 

OrganicGorilla

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Yes it can be done. Clip a lower popcorn bud and leave the bud intact. After it roots, it’ll start growing shoots out of the bud. This is called “Monster Cropping”, because these clones become massive bushes.
 

TheBFA

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I've done both methods and have had success, with the flowering clones you need to be very very patient but as long as you baby them it usually turns out just fine
I've heard you can flower a plant twice and sometimes more, so I think I might try it out with one of these, try to go back to veg to get new growth and see if I can flower it again. I already cut one clipping earlier, so might as well throw that into the cloning machine to see what happens with that too.
 

GroErr

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Yes it can be done. Clip a lower popcorn bud and leave the bud intact. After it roots, it’ll start growing shoots out of the bud. This is called “Monster Cropping”, because these clones become massive bushes.
Yeah this works but typically refers to cutting flowering clones up until around 3 weeks. I grab them sometimes if the original clones didn't take, got some at 6 weeks not long ago and saved a cut. Those root relatively quick and consistently. When you get past 6 weeks or so I've found better success with re-veg of the plant itself. At least ime, just recently tried to clone 2 strains at harvest to test again, the clones eventually just dried out/died off.
 

Herbacultttt3333

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I've heard you can flower a plant twice and sometimes more, so I think I might try it out with one of these, try to go back to veg to get new growth and see if I can flower it again. I already cut one clipping earlier, so might as well throw that into the cloning machine to see what happens with that too.
 

Herbacultttt3333

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I've had some success with flowering multiple times off the same plant but you have to take in consideration the lingerie plant is alive it is more prone to diseases bug infestation and things like that. I'm not trying to discourage you but no matter what I would definitely make sure that I have a few healthy clones just in case anything backfires
 

Herbacultttt3333

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Kind of off subject but I'm looking for a new seed distributor, really looking for some good genetics and I always get the run around with reviews, any good advice you could give me company wise payment wise anything would be appreciated
 

OrganicGorilla

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Yeah this works but typically refers to cutting flowering clones up until around 3 weeks. I grab them sometimes if the original clones didn't take, got some at 6 weeks not long ago and saved a cut. Those root relatively quick and consistently. When you get past 6 weeks or so I've found better success with re-veg of the plant itself. At least ime, just recently tried to clone 2 strains at harvest to test again, the clones eventually just dried out/died off.
Yeah they are harder to root at that stage but it does work. I take way more cuttings then I need because the success rate is a little lower. If it’s something I HAVE to have back, I’ll take at least a dozen clones of it. I usually get about 50%+ to root.
I use Jiffy Pellets and the humidity dome and mist them twice a day. I also use rooting powder instead of gel.
 

OrganicGorilla

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Kind of off subject but I'm looking for a new seed distributor, really looking for some good genetics and I always get the run around with reviews, any good advice you could give me company wise payment wise anything would be appreciated
Anything bred by Bodhi... He has awesome genetics. Try Goji OG or Sunshine Daydream.
 
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