Beefbisquit
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You realize this is a specific part of the forum devoted to religion, in a specific post about proving whether or not god exists, right?
Prove to you There's a God?
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You realize this is a specific part of the forum devoted to religion, in a specific post about proving whether or not god exists, right?
mouthmeetsoap
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Haha! Nope, I didn't. Carry on.
Marlboro47
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Jesus was perfect because he was the Son of God, because he is God.
He wasn't the Christ if his name was Jesus and he was just a regular man.
Theres your logic, try to understand it before making me respond to an other stupid question.
Marlboro47
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Why don't you post on your main account? I know you made your account specifically to debate.
Beefbisquit
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This is like baby town frolics....
How do you know he was actually the son of god without referencing the bible?
Heisenberg
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Examples of cruelty in the new testament.
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt_list.html
If the bible was written by the creator of the universe, how come it doesn't mention any of the fundamental truths we have discovered about the universe? It says nothing of thermodynamics, quantum theory, cosmology, relativity, ect. The bible has all the earmarks of be written by mortals who were ignorant of how the world works, and provides nothing that even hints at divine knowledge. There is no justification for claiming it the word of god, the belief has to be made on faith.
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt_list.html
If the bible was written by the creator of the universe, how come it doesn't mention any of the fundamental truths we have discovered about the universe? It says nothing of thermodynamics, quantum theory, cosmology, relativity, ect. The bible has all the earmarks of be written by mortals who were ignorant of how the world works, and provides nothing that even hints at divine knowledge. There is no justification for claiming it the word of god, the belief has to be made on faith.
Beefbisquit
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This is my only account.
You can go to my grow journal if you want? You can look under newbie advice for my other posts?
I don't need a fake account to put the nuts to a fundie.
Marlboro47
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The bible was not written by God. Which is why the names of the chapters lead you to who wrote them. If you do some further research you can find out who wrote them, why they wrote them, who they were... ect(you'll also find that the people who witnessed Jesus were hunted so they ended up writing their part of the book 30-40years later(science even proves that)).
How I can trust them? Because their telling me to stay away from people that hate me and my beliefs.
Jesus's words that are in the bible are all quotes, and if you meet the son of God yourself you would never forget the quotes because they would change your whole perspective of life.
Beefbisquit
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So, by this definition Muslims are justified in killing non-muslims because it says so in the Qu'ran? Wow, so reading something that says "stay away from different people" gives you reason to believe it's true..... interesting. That is the most irrational thing I've ever heard.
[video]http://youtu.be/fEkWH8DB7b0[/video]
Marlboro47
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There are too many anti-christs to "google" anything about religion and trust what your reading.
You need to do hours of research to find what is real and what is some santan worshipper distorting his words so that you will believe some bullshit mixed in with words of the bible.
Read the bible first, then do research.
You need to do hours of research to find what is real and what is some santan worshipper distorting his words so that you will believe some bullshit mixed in with words of the bible.
Read the bible first, then do research.
Beefbisquit
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Yeaahhh, I've done Qualitative and Quanitative research papers and proposals.... I really don't need advice on how to do "hours of research".
Marlboro47
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Muslims aren't Christians, they don't believe in Christ. They're anti-christs, I wouldn't expect their religion to be legit.
Padawanbater2
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The last 5 pages prominently display complete stupidity.
I can't believe people can actually be this way..
I can't believe people can actually be this way..
Beefbisquit
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Actually, you are incorrect - Muslims do believe in Jesus, just not that he was the son of god. They see him as a prophet. (There's that research you were talking about!)
What makes their Holy Book less truthful than yours. There's was written by Muhammad, who could speak directly with god! It's about the same age, a little newer, but still has billions of followers..... What makes you so sure you picked the right religion? How can you so easily discredit Islam (the same way I do Christianity), but grasp so tightly to your own indoctrination?
Marlboro47
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Matthew 3:10 "And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire."
The whole list is completely warped, dont even read that shit past the first quote.
Edit:I diddn't even click the link before I wrote this :
Marlboro47
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Im serious about that too bro, Im getting stupider... I might just have to quit posting again...
Heisenberg
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The bible is either the perfect word of god or it isn't, regardless of who wrote it or when. If it isn't, then who decides which is legit and which isn't? If it is, then you either have concrete reason to believe this, or you have faith. If it's faith, then that faith carries no more weight than the belief that the cat in the hat doesn't like green eggs and ham.
I believe Jesus taught to do good to those who hate you. Repay evil with kindness. Answer hate with love, ect. At least on the good days.
You're claiming that the bible teaches exclusion and intolerance? Those seem to be less than desirable virtues.
It's okay to admit you believe something on faith. It's not okay to pretend you have good reason when you really just haven't thought things through and applied consistency. But if you believe something on faith, you really have to just state your beliefs and sit down. There is no way to justify faith in the context of judging truth value.
Beefbisquit
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My favourite part was when you told me I wouldn't give a lighter back if I "bic'd" someone... It really made a valid point in the god discussion. LOL
I've done more reading on ethics and ethical systems than I would care to remember, I'm actually an "Act Utilitarian", for the most part.... although every ethical system I've seen so far has degraded in the face of certain thought experiments.
Marlboro47
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I believe the bible is the truth because ever since I have become religous I haven't been ripped off other then by black people that work at the medical clubs. Also I seem to understand basic pyschology to the point where I can communicate to someone my belief without trying to manipulate them into believing it.
I got 10x smarter then I was before I read the bible, that is all the proof I need that Jesus's quotes truely are the words to eternal life.
Luger187
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the bible is NOT proof!! where did you go to school man? is the jack and the beanstalk true because it says so in the book?
no it makes me mad that someone thinks jesus was the son of god because a 2,000 year old book tells him.
thats a big FAIL
if they believed it was a book with holy writings, why on earth would they throw it away and say it is fake? would you do that?
people call the qu'ran holy. people call the torah holy. the bible is just another book that people like to believe is true. what makes your bible 'more right' then those other books?
theyve convinced you that anyone who doesnt totally believe in jesus is the anti christ and they are just trying to decieve you. so how is anyone going to show you something if you already dont believe it? are you just gonna stick you fingers in your ears and close your eyes?
that is not true at all
maybe since religious people always have a false sense of hope
why is everything so black and white? isnt it perfectly reasonable for an atheist to love life?
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