Prove to you There's a God?

Marlboro47

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Why then does Jesus continually quote and paraphrase passages in the OT? Why was he a practicing Jew? Without the OT, how do you evaluate Jesus' claim of divinity because wasn't it the OT prophecies that he supposedly fulfilled that convince many people? Without the OT, the already weak case of Jesus being the messiah is even weaker as it is the OT that defines what qualifies as messiah.
Jesus said he came not to destroy old laws but to teach. I don't see how he was a practicing Jew if he himself called himself the messiah.
He quoted and paraphrased the OT because the people living at the time thought that they would have eternal life from reading it, but Jesus said "Believe in me, and you will have eternal life, with me and my father in the kingdom of heaven."

The OT has a bunch of contradictions, if you study the bible you will learn more. Thats why I don't believe that the old testement is legit and has eternal life.
The NT, has eternal life because Jesus says he and his words have eternal life.
 

Marlboro47

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Because obviojusly his minds set and everyone knows God is too powerful to showhimself to us humans until the afterlife.

So then everyone can't prove it. Unless everyone has been to the afterlife I suppose. Back to faith. Why should believers get pissed off at people who believe different? Wouldn't a person be in perpetual pissed off mode forever because there is always beliefs different than our own no matter what belief.
Everyone can prove it, Jesus came and died for our sins in the flesh of man on earth. <Its proven. Its in the bible, its recorded, and there are TONS of scripts that diddn't make it into the new testament.
 

Marlboro47

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Everyone can prove it, Jesus came and died for our sins in the flesh of man on earth. <Its proven. Its in the bible, its recorded, and there are TONS of scripts that diddn't make it into the new testament.
Why do you think I made the OP?

What else is there to prove?
 

Marlboro47

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quiet in here... guess everyone is at church.
See what I mean? If he is proven to exist already, why even start a topic called Prove to me god exists Does god exists, what evidence do you have that god exists?

All the OP poster is doing is trying to make fun of the believer or even trying to shatter his hopes, and to that I made this topic.
 

Prefontaine

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The devils gonna fucking die! Why the fuck would I wanna go anywhere near him?

Gods the most powerful living thing in EVERYTHING. Why the fuck would I deny him?

Anyways, smoke a cigarette while you live in "the lot of the land." Fucking stupidest shit I've heard about why someone doesn't believe in God.
First if god exists why would it want its children to forever worship it? If you are in god's image why dont you force your children to worship you? If god exists it would want these things from you, that you strive for knowledge of the world, you strive to better yourself, physically and mentally and that you strive to better the world.

by arguing with people on blogging site are you really doing any of those things? or are you helping spread hate?
 

Marlboro47

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Why didn't those TONS of scripts make it into the NT? Did someone Not believe them to be true?
Damage scripts, untranslatable scripts, and some scriptures were just Jesus's journeys and conversations. Next time you go to a library look for the Jesus section and you'll find tons of books with scriptures that diddn't make it.
 

Marlboro47

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First if god exists why would it want its children to forever worship it? If you are in god's image why dont you force your children to worship you? If god exists it would want these things from you, that you strive for knowledge of the world, you strive to better yourself, physically and mentally and that you strive to better the world.

by arguing with people on blogging site are you really doing any of those things? or are you helping spread hate?
Your asking me stuff that I can be answering with anything, it would probably be manipulation because my thoughts are completely different to your beliefs.
I could tell you that God's fighting demons aliens and huge wars against other powerful creatures, and when we praise him he feels better about being alive. But then thats my opinion, maybe hes so great and glorious that when we praise him, we actually become happier then we ever could of without praising him.

Jesus wants me to confess that he died on earth in the flesh of man for our sins. So spreading the word is just an other step to helping someone else become a better happier person.
I'd say im helping, spreading the love, you know?
 

sso

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personally i think, you cant really debate gods existance.

met the dude in a dream. was it just a dream or god? dont know, just saw the dude and up popped in my head (well dream head) "thats god"

if it was god, can i prove it?

lol

dont be ridiculous.

debating the existance of god is so far bit pointless

debating the obviously flawed religions and how to fix them or let them go in favor of something new.

thats entirely different.

god does not have an effect on our life (directly visible anyway :))

religion does.



..on god btw,, well its a thought.

evolution..

somewhere in the depths of time, something decided to live (or just did or always did, who knows)

then it decided to move (and in that act, created what it needed to do so.)

then it figured out that there was something to see and made eyes (creating them out of nothing after having figured out how it all works)

and then it made arms and legs and a mouth (probably the mouth first and possibly the genitals next lol,)

all this it created and made and figured out how to do that.



well..

and so on..

and

you know.. i cant do shit like that.


can you?


of course it happened over a great long time, but still, i dont see any random mutations going around, testing out for the next great thing to have.

doesnt seem to be an automatic system.

sure. evolve to fit an existing system, thats possible, the beak grows longer

and so on..

the animal adjusts


but actually creating a beak from nothing and that just happens??

and eyes and shit?

that just happens?

and there are no random configurations?

what decides what works and what not? survival?

but where are the superfreaky freaks that dont work?

and the medium freaks? and big jumps?

where is the new stuff?

it happens that slow?

what spurs it?

our collective consciousness?

individual desire?
 

Marlboro47

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personally i think, you cant really debate gods existance.

met the dude in a dream. was it just a dream or god? dont know, just saw the dude and up popped in my head (well dream head) "thats god"

if it was god, can i prove it?

lol

dont be ridiculous.

debating the existance of god is so far bit pointless

debating the obviously flawed religions and how to fix them or let them go in favor of something new.

thats entirely different.

god does not have an effect on our life (directly visible anyway :))

religion does.



..on god btw,, well its a thought.

evolution..

somewhere in the depths of time, something decided to live (or just did or always did, who knows)

then it decided to move (and in that act, created what it needed to do so.)

then it figured out that there was something to see and made eyes (creating them out of nothing after having figured out how it all works)

and then it made arms and legs and a mouth (probably the mouth first and possibly the genitals next lol,)

all this it created and made and figured out how to do that.



well..

and so on..

and

you know.. i cant do shit like that.


can you?
Jesus is God bro. Theres no proving that Jesus existed because its a fact, he existed.
Direct influence on our daily lives today.
 

Prefontaine

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Your asking me stuff that I can be answering with anything, it would probably be manipulation because my thoughts are completely different to your beliefs.
I could tell you that God's fighting demons aliens and huge wars against other powerful creatures, and when we praise him he feels better about being alive. But then thats my opinion, maybe hes so great and glorious that when we praise him, we actually become happier then we ever could of without praising him.

Jesus wants me to confess that he died on earth in the flesh of man for our sins. So spreading the word is just an other step to helping someone else become a better happier person.
I'd say im helping, spreading the love, you know?
Im just saying god wants you reading a book about quantum physics, or going for a jog, not arguing with people online, so why are you so concerned with what other people think or are doing? just do your own thing thats gods message, and that means let others do their thing.
 

Prefontaine

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god knows all thats the point of omniscience, no if your saying that everyone has to accept jesus christ as their lord and savior then your preaching satanism.
 

Marlboro47

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Matthew Chapter 10: 32-33
Confess Christ before men
32: "Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will confess before My Father who is in heaven.
33: "But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before my Father who is in heaven."
 

Marlboro47

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if your saying that everyone has to accept jesus christ as their lord and savior then your preaching satanism.
Your misleading others reading this article, you are classified as a deceiver. I will not greet your false doctrine into what I know about Jesus.
 

Marlboro47

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This is the reason why Jesus doesn't force you to accept him. Because many people have negative intetions and if they were forced to accept Jesus, it would be a lost cause. So Jesus decided just to throw those who don't believe into the molton lava fire pits of hell.
 

Marlboro47

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aint it funny how these people twist your words and use them against you
Check this out.

1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
1 John 4:2
By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God.
1 John 4:3
And every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
 

Marlboro47

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1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is an antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.
1 John 2:23
Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledge the Son has the Father also.
 

Marlboro47

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2 John 1:7-1:11
7:For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as comming the in flesh. This is a decevier and an anti-christ.
8:Look to yourselves, that we do not lose the things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
9:Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10:If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11: for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
 
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