Profanity

skunkushybrid

skunkushybrid

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Why is profanity such a bad thing? Why are certain words in our language considered taboo?

Is it right that this should be the case? Or, is it fuck-as-like?

In my country you can get an £80 fine for swearing in a public place. Well, actually all you need to do is swear around a cop.

How the fuck can they try and control what comes out of your mouth? So long as you are not being aggressive why should profanity cause so much bother?
 
Wavels

Wavels

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Hey Skunky....
This is an interesting point that you raise....I tend to think that the common use of profanity dilutes its impact, and that it should be reserved for special occasions that merit its use....thereby greatly amplifying its intended shock value.
If it is used all the time i think that the intended use for profane words is nullified!....:joint:
 
skunkushybrid

skunkushybrid

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My 3 year old is currently copying everything I say. I have friends round quite a lot, as soon as one set leave another turn up. Most of my friends are the type of people you cross the street to avoid. So there's a lot of swearing going on in my kitchen.

If I say fucking hell, he'll run around saying it over and over again. My gf is not very impressed as he will be starting nursery in a few months. The only thing I can think of doing is trying to tell him that it's ok to swear, just not in front of certain people.

A small part of me however wants to tell him that it's fine to swear whenever you like. Fuck 'em all son! Fuck 'em all!
 
nongreenthumb

nongreenthumb

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skunkushybrid said:
My 3 year old is currently copying everything I say. I have friends round quite a lot, as soon as one set leave another turn up. Most of my friends are the type of people you cross the street to avoid. So there's a lot of swearing going on in my kitchen.

If I say fucking hell, he'll run around saying it over and over again. My gf is not very impressed as he will be starting nursery in a few months. The only thing I can think of doing is trying to tell him that it's ok to swear, just not in front of certain people.

A small part of me however wants to tell him that it's fine to swear whenever you like. Fuck 'em all son! Fuck 'em all!
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I understand you completely, the hardest call in parenting is between whats right and whats best for them for the outside world. Do you bring them up the ideal way like everyone is supposed to or do you bring them up ready to deal with the harshness of the world.
 
skunkushybrid

skunkushybrid

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If you look at it like that I suppose I am getting them ready for the harshness of the world.

It doesn't help when I burst into laughter after he copies me. Should I pretend that it isn't funny? Even though he'd know I'd just be pretending? Is this where the lying starts?

I'd made up my mind a long time ago that I would always be bluntly honest and truthful with my kids. How far should I take this?
 
kieahtoka

kieahtoka

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truthfully I believe that swearing should be kept minimal around people you have no affiliation with. It's wrong that others get to dictate what you say but unfortunately that's how our world is. Preparing them for the harshness of it is the best way to go about it. As long as you don't become the one that your child would be fearing to speak freely around. I was raised never to swear around parents and others who could get me in a lot of trouble. so I decided to keep it for when I was around those who had no problem with how I spoke.

btw, I'm no parent so feel free to shoot holes in my opinion. I envy you guys who are and hope one day to be in your position..just not anytime soon.
 
nongreenthumb

nongreenthumb

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Most parents teach their children to share and get along with people, but sometimes I see my little girl fight for what she believes in when she wants to play with something a bigger boy has, she stands up for herself, now do you tell her that its wrong and you should get along and share or do you let her fight and tell her she was right in preperation for the world.
 
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fdd2blk

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i base my use of vulgarity on respect. if i'm at my folks i will keep it to minimum. maybe a "shit" here or there. they don't swear and they are offended by it. i respect that. at work it's pretty much a free-for-all. we are all hard working grubby men. we are curse and no one cares. i respect that. in a restaurant i don't swear. i don't know how the people next to me feel and i don't wish to offend strangers. i know other words. as far as my son; we didn't swear in front of him until he was old enough for us to sit him down and explain it all to him. then we gradually eased it back into our vocabulary. he's heard it all now but knows when to use it. he doesn't swear in front of adults or others who may be offended. i catch him cursing to himself occasionally. i think it all comes down to those around you and how you feel about offending them. respect.
 
skunkushybrid

skunkushybrid

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Yeah, I suppose it's about respect. That's what I need to teach my kids. Swearing is fine, it's just that there's a time and place.
 
Chiceh

Chiceh

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skunkushybrid said:
If you look at it like that I suppose I am getting them ready for the harshness of the world.

It doesn't help when I burst into laughter after he copies me. Should I pretend that it isn't funny? Even though he'd know I'd just be pretending? Is this where the lying starts?

I'd made up my mind a long time ago that I would always be bluntly honest and truthful with my kids. How far should I take this?
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I totally know what you mean and agree with you. I have a 5 year old daughter.
Your children learn everything they need to get through life from you in the the first 5 or 6 years of their life. The parents are the most influential person a child has. You teach them to talk, walk, work ethic, manners (for some), behaviour, how to read, be independant (use the washroom by themselves, dress eat etc). I believe it is the development in the first few years that forms the basics skills for today's society.
However you need to teach boundaries of when and where to use proper behaviour and language.
 
space_weaseal

space_weaseal

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Wavels said:
Hey Skunky....
This is an interesting point that you raise....I tend to think that the common use of profanity dilutes its impact, and that it should be reserved for special occasions that merit its use....thereby greatly amplifying its intended shock value.
If it is used all the time i think that the intended use for profane words is nullified!....:joint:
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A plus to that.
Due to popular beliefe the first imprssions are important. If you talk like trash plp are gonna belive you are trash..
This is by no means a insult to anyone. (it is what it is)
 
skunkushybrid

skunkushybrid

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Who cares what other people think? Not me, I never have. People like to pass judgements on other people but who gives a fuck about them?

Caring too much about what other people think can lead to paranoia. Me, I say fuck 'em all.
 
kieahtoka

kieahtoka

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skunkushybrid said:
Who cares what other people think? Not me, I never have. People like to pass judgements on other people but who gives a fuck about them?

Caring too much about what other people think can lead to paranoia. Me, I say fuck 'em all.
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I like your attitude:mrgreen:
 
Erniedytn

Erniedytn

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My dad was the worlds worst when it came to profanity. He would tell you to go fuck yourself in a minute, and he didn't give a fuck who you were. This was very common in my house when I was growing up, but I learned that there is definately a time and place. I mean if your at granny's house then you should keep it to a minimum, or if you work in an office environment, you probably shouldn't swear either(I do because I don't give a fuck). It all comes down to common sense. I mean, if I got a customer on the phone that is an obvious moron, I don't say "you're a fucking moron and you shouldn't be installing". I politely tell them how to resolve the issue, hang up the phone, and then say "what a fucking moron!":mrgreen:
 
nongreenthumb

nongreenthumb

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Ok if you were in tesco or safeway or whatever and your child wanted to go on one of those electric jig em about rides that cost 50p. How would you feel if at the top of his voice he started shouting fuck fuck fuck or shit shit shit or whatever word you want to put there.

I say this because we were in morrisons and my little girl was on a postman pat ride, all of a sudden she started shouting fuck fuck fuck, my face went as red as could be and I felt deeply embarrased, what we have tried to do since is use less profanity and change words around, fuck is now fudge and shit is now sugar. They can have words to express their emotions but the wrong ones could be really embarrasing to you at some point.

What would happen if you took the family round to your parents or somewhere proper where a level of respect was demanded and someone said to your child excuse me but you musnt do that, and your little boy turns round and say fuck off you old cunt.
 
Roseman

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
fdd2blk, skunkushybrid,

You're absolutely right. It is all about respect and who does it offend?
God made assholes and if you call them a rectum or an anus or an ass hole, what is the difference? Man made the rules aobut what is offensive. silly rules I would say. You can say chicken breast at the grammer school cafeteria, but you can't ask for a chicken titty!
Vagina, nooky, vulva, pussy, it is the sme thing, just a different name or different word. The difference is who is offended by it? It is all about respect.
 
Erniedytn

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
nongreenthumb said:
Ok if you were in tesco or safeway or whatever and your child wanted to go on one of those electric jig em about rides that cost 50p. How would you feel if at the top of his voice he started shouting fuck fuck fuck or shit shit shit or whatever word you want to put there.

I say this because we were in morrisons and my little girl was on a postman pat ride, all of a sudden she started shouting fuck fuck fuck, my face went as red as could be and I felt deeply embarrased, what we have tried to do since is use less profanity and change words around, fuck is now fudge and shit is now sugar. They can have words to express their emotions but the wrong ones could be really embarrasing to you at some point.

What would happen if you took the family round to your parents or somewhere proper where a level of respect was demanded and someone said to your child excuse me but you musnt do that, and your little boy turns round and say fuck off you old cunt.
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I would have gotten my ass kicked if I pulled some shit like this.
 
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