Poppy grow in progess (Help please?)

I'm trying to grow poppies indoors at the moment. I'm having moderate success. My 2 plants are in the cabbage stage (vegetative) and to be honest, I don't know when to start flowering them.... They're about 1 month old. Any suggestions? How'd you grow your poppies?

yea i tried growing it before but it was the wrong kind of poppy for opium. but its easier than cannabis to grow wait till they get big 3ft then go 12/12 i think they might be auto flowering (any light cycle) just stick to two plants and see what there like to grow man. you wont be wasting your time.

yeah youre probably right, I wont be growing fields any time soon... 3 ft it is thanks again

Do you have a picture? What is the light cycle set on right now?

If you are trying to extract opium from your seed pods you should start your plants out on a 12/12 light schedual.

I will take pictures asap.... the light cycle is currently 12/12

I don't know man. Last summer I grew about 40 opium poppies outdoors. They were a giganteum strain of papaver somniferum. They all got to be about 3 feet tall and had pods slightly ranging from golfball size to slightly smaller than a tennis ball.
All that work and time got me about two grams of decent opium. Certainly not the year round natural alternative to my pain prescription vicodin I thought it would be.
Two plants? If you're growing them just for fun then have at it. But I think two plants may produce a ball of O just about big enough to get two people high once or one person REALLY high.
I decided I won't grow poppies anymore at all. Way too much time, effort and risk for the payout.
Whats your motivation for growing them?

Wow, that is a bummer I just started about 6 outdoors. I thought you could just slice and smear a bit of that ooze on a dobie and go to town? So much for my dreams of multiple sessions from a poppy eh? ...Obviously I'm a mega-rookie when it comes to poppies, harvest of them and the like, but it sounds fun.

BigGuyinRI said:

I don't know man. Last summer I grew about 40 opium poppies outdoors. They were a giganteum strain of papaver somniferum. They all got to be about 3 feet tall and had pods slightly ranging from golfball size to slightly smaller than a tennis ball.
All that work and time got me about two grams of decent opium. Certainly not the year round natural alternative to my pain prescription vicodin I thought it would be.
Two plants? If you're growing them just for fun then have at it. But I think two plants may produce a ball of O just about big enough to get two people high once or one person REALLY high.
I decided I won't grow poppies anymore at all. Way too much time, effort and risk for the payout.
Whats your motivation for growing them?

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If you grow them in the right conditions you will end up with more then just 1 strong dose of opium. Did you extract all of the opium from the plant also, or just the sap from the pods? The amount of opium really depends on what you do, growing the plant and harvesting the opium. Besides, you wouldn't want to use opium every day, would you?

Im just doing it for fun, I enjoy harvesting things and if I get a little opium out of it, even better! I'm not hoping to be the west coasts biggest supplier of raw opium or anything haha

For the flowering cycle you need to put the lights to 18/6 or 24/0 from what I have read. I plan on growing poppies soon so you should post some pics up so we can see how it goes.

I used just the sap from the pods and did a multiple scraping of all the pods over a two week period and combined everything into one ball.
And no, I wouldn't want to do opium everyday. Nut I also don't want to do vicodin or percocet everyday but thats just the way it is for me. (Multiple injuries from Iraq war) Better off natural than pharma-chemicals ya know?
I was aware that you could use the sap from the whole plant but when I grew I was under the impression that if you had over say 15-20 plants it wasn't really worth the work to extract that little amount. But you obviously know more about it than I. How do you extract from the rest of the plant anyhow?

BigGuyinRI said:

I used just the sap from the pods and did a multiple scraping of all the pods over a two week period and combined everything into one ball.
And no, I wouldn't want to do opium everyday. Nut I also don't want to do vicodin or percocet everyday but thats just the way it is for me. (Multiple injuries from Iraq war) Better off natural than pharma-chemicals ya know?
I was aware that you could use the sap from the whole plant but when I grew I was under the impression that if you had over say 15-20 plants it wasn't really worth the work to extract that little amount. But you obviously know more about it than I. How do you extract from the rest of the plant anyhow?

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use distilled water and make the PH level 5/ slightly acidic, I recomend useing lemons or vinegar. Heat the acidic solution to 150-160F, do not heat the solution over 170F(this will cause some of the alkaloids to decompose). You can use a meat/poultry thermometer to moniter the temprature.

Once your temp and PH are right add the roots, stems, leaves, pods, etc. to the heated solution. Now you can cook everything for around 2 hours. When you are done heating the mixture for 2 hours or so filter the liquid off and discard the plant material, make sure the liquid stays at 160 while you are filtering(do not let it cool, you will lose product). You can evaporate the water and have a crude extract, mix it with some alcohol.

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Reheat the solution to 150-160F, start you temps out on low and slowly raise the temps until you are at the desired temprature 160F. Be patient at this point because you can mess everything up if you heat the solution over 170F. After the temps reach 160F add some Sodium hydroxide/pickling lime and stir so the sodium hydroxide will react with everything in the solution. After the sodium hydroxide reacts with the solution Morphine and Codine will be soluble in cold water, let the solution cool to room temprature. Then, filter the solution and discard the solid waste, keep the liquid.

Slowly reheat the solution back to 150-160F and titrate the heated solution with Ammonium chloride(add a little at a time). You will see a percitatate form which will be a crude Morphine/Codine base. Now, cool the solution to room temprature and filter off the Morphine chunks.

Ammonium cloride can be purchased at eather a harware store, or Ebay. Sodium hydroxide/pickling lime is at almost every grocery store.

sfbayj said:

Wow, that is a bummer I just started about 6 outdoors. I thought you could just slice and smear a bit of that ooze on a dobie and go to town? So much for my dreams of multiple sessions from a poppy eh? ...Obviously I'm a mega-rookie when it comes to poppies, harvest of them and the like, but it sounds fun.

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u can really. i used to live in seattle and happened to be selling shit door to door, don't ask. ne ways, people grow poppies in their yards. so i used to just pop a pod of and smear the "milk" on a camel. not mind altering or super intense but def worth the small amount of effort for a noticeable effect. still makes me want to grow em....

good luck to all u guys that are.

laudanum is the way to go i heard for maximum efficiency.

PEACE!!


a fitty dorrar......

geneticdrifter said:

u can really. i used to live in seattle and happened to be selling shit door to door, don't ask. ne ways, people grow poppies in their yards. so i used to just pop a pod of and smear the "milk" on a camel. not mind altering or super intense but def worth the small amount of effort for a noticeable effect. still makes me want to grow em....

good luck to all u guys that are.

laudanum is the way to go i heard for maximum efficiency.

PEACE!!


a fitty dorrar......

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Sounds like thievery if you ask me. I would have been pissed, all that work and some one steals my seedpods. I guess you probably weren't thinking about that at the time, maybe you will next time.

aattocchi said:

If you grow them in the right conditions you will end up with more then just 1 strong dose of opium. Did you extract all of the opium from the plant also, or just the sap from the pods? The amount of opium really depends on what you do, growing the plant and harvesting the opium. Besides, you wouldn't want to use opium every day, would you?

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obviously you dont know anything about opium OF COURSE YOU WANNA USE IT EVERY DAY

goatamineHcL said:

obviously you dont know anything about opium OF COURSE YOU WANNA USE IT EVERY DAY

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Then it will own you!

thats the price you pay for forcing yourself to feel uplifted. I wouldn't go as far as to say opium will own you... If you have any self control you can safely indulge.

Ganzy1003 said:

thats the price you pay for forcing yourself to feel uplifted. I wouldn't go as far as to say opium will own you... If you have any self control you can safely indulge.

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If you use it everyday it will own you! Self control would be not to use it on a daily basis. I would only recomend using it 2 times a month, if that!

One can start to feel withdraws after only 1 strong dose.

yes thats correct from what i have read also, the light cycle should be the opposite of marijuana.