Police Interactions.

Fogdog

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I sympathize with him in a sense. He's right, in that most cops are not Chauvin or that ahole in Colorado who laughed over his vid when it showed him maiming a sick elderly woman. OTOH, it doesn't matter to me who is good or who is bad. They protect each other with the same codes of silence used in crime gangs. So, it doesn't matter what he does, says or feels. I'm here to say that there are too many bad outcomes from police interactions. Because they band together, I hold them all responsible as co-conspirators. Some more than others.

The cop in that vid is frustrated and feels unheard. That can be remedied but he has to speak up along with others about their abusive, sadistic or racist peers before he will be taken seriously. At least that what he has to do if I'm going to take what he says without a large grain of salt, fwiw.

Personally, I don't think police reform is the answer because the macho, authoritarian, law and order type of cop is entrenched in this society. I think the answer is to take funds away from the police and put it into alternative programs that address the same problems that are linked to public safety.

I like most of the movies that Costner has been in (not Waterworld, uck) but this one was kind of disgusting to me:

 

Southernontariogrower

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So this post changed for me after the second video, I don't really have a point to it now other than how scary it is when you give people power over others. I have no ill will towards the police, but they do scare the crap out of me, always have. I have never been in any altercation with one, and as soon as it is obvious I am going to be pulled over, I pull over get everything out on the dash, and put my hands on the steering wheel. I did once have to talk to a cop who pulled my neighbors teenage kid over and ended up with him being in back of the car outside his house because of a expired plate, which sucked that the kid was put through that.

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This guy must feel like a real man.

Anyways.....

I was going to make the post about that, but then this video popped up. It is nuts.

You guys have never done wrong and been punished by your government, thats nothing. Cant believe cops were accountable! Times they are changing! Thank god. Hardcore all the way to the core. Like guys who go to prison then check in. Thats society for the majority. Fall down cant get up. Try harder! No do it! Fuck trying! Sorry but did hit sensitive spot, East detention center Toronto Ontaro. Ill always remember those gaurds faces. The first trip to Millhaven penn. Trajically hip does song about guy in there, 38 years old. Saw the holes they cut in fences. Firsthand. Guy went over wall at Collins Bay penn. Just to hug his boyfriend one last time, truth. Love even in the darkest of places. Impure but love the same. Who am l to judge, especially love? Love to see those cops go to prison for assulting her, give em 5 spot each 3 to get up 2 to get down. See how many cops assult people then. Was in with TO cop chopped up his wife on halcyone, didnt check in. Got a few beatings, gave a few back. Solid mf for a cop.
 

schuylaar

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@Fogdog

that's why you heard that female cop keep trying to apologize that she 1) didn't jump into the thick of things trying to wrestle an old lady to the ground and hog tie her 2) her disgust at not liking 'the pop' when the other male cop was laughing..'here it comes..the pop! did you hear it?'

that town is the next town down from where i live..Loveland Colorado..yeah right + all these cops are nasty here in Colorado..so you know, i'm not even shocked.

we need for others to show up on calls that don't require a gun. this means we need to take money away from policing and re-distribute to new outside of law because after all who the hell needs this for $14 theft? i know they needed 3 officers to wrangle the old girl..

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that female cop knew they were going to be in trouble she even said it on tape..she actually said a lot of things, i'm wondering now if she wasn't IA.

'why did she wait a year? -male cop boofvckingwho you piece of shit.

of course every state is different but for assault you have usually 3 years to prosecute someone just in case they're still receiving treatment from your assault. to put a price and settle through insurance (or go to court), you have to have a good picture of injury.
 
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smokinrav

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What's truly stupid about all this is store security stopped her at the door and she offered to pay for the items she was walking out with. Instead, they called the cops. The de-escalation should have started there.
 

schuylaar

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What's truly stupid about all this is store security stopped her at the door and she offered to pay for the items she was walking out with. Instead, they called the cops. The de-escalation should have started there.
Annnnnnnnnd the store didn't want to press charges so why the call to the cops to begin with? did they think they were going to get a sweet social worker for the lady with dementia?

the store will be named in the suit..watch..wasn't it Walmart? teeeeeheeeeeeheeeeeee.
 

Fogdog

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@Fogdog

that's why you heard that female cop keep trying to apologize that she 1) didn't jump into the thick of things trying to wrestle an old lady to the ground and hog tie her 2) her disgust at not liking 'the pop' when the other male cop was laughing..'here it comes..the pop! did you hear it?'

that town is the next town down from where i live..Loveland Colorado..yeah right + all these cops are nasty here in Colorado..so you know, i'm not even shocked.

we need for others to show up on calls that don't require a gun. this means we need to take money away from policing and re-distribute to new outside of law because after all who the hell needs this for $14 theft? i know they needed 3 officers to wrangle the old girl..

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that female cop knew they were going to be in trouble she even said it on tape..she actually said a lot of things, i'm wondering now if she wasn't IA.

'why did she wait a year? -male cop boofvckingwho you piece of shit.

of course every state is different but for assault you have usually 3 years to prosecute someone just in case they're still receiving treatment from your assault. to put a price and settle through insurance (or go to court), you have to have a good picture of injury.
I agree with your assessment. It crossed my mind that the female cop was goading the sadistic cop into spilling the beans on a camera that she was fully aware of. If so, smart and good on her. The thing is, she will be in danger if she goes back on patrol and her colleagues suspect her of doing that. For that reason alone, well meaning people who are cops won't "snitch" (hate that word but that's the one her fellow cops would use) on the bad cops.

That all said, she was on the scene and participated in that beat down. There is no mention in that tape about her being hesitant, was there? Maybe I missed something. Her regrets came AFTER the incident and WHILE the battered shoplifter was in a cell, a short distance away. Why wasn't she seeing to the care of that battered woman? What I think comes from all of this is the woman leaves the force and the sadist is retained. Maybe times have changed and I'm again being cynical an wrong about the power of that video to change minds. Ten years ago, I have no doubt that is what happens.
 

Southernontariogrower

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I agree with your assessment. It crossed my mind that the female cop was goading the sadistic cop into spilling the beans on a camera that she was fully aware of. If so, smart and good on her. The thing is, she will be in danger if she goes back on patrol and her colleagues suspect her of doing that. For that reason alone, well meaning people who are cops won't "snitch" (hate that word but that's the one her fellow cops would use) on the bad cops.

That all said, she was on the scene and participated in that beat down. There is no mention in that tape about her being hesitant, was there? Maybe I missed something. Her regrets came AFTER the incident and WHILE the battered shoplifter was in a cell, a short distance away. Why wasn't she seeing to the care of that battered woman? What I think comes from all of this is the woman leaves the force and the sadist is retained. Maybe times have changed and I'm again being cynical an wrong about the power of that video to change minds. Ten years ago, I have no doubt that is what happens.
Our only stand agaist tyranny is resistance.
 

schuylaar

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this one is for mines buried here in the US.

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McGruff is a nice touch to get the kids involved..should just bring it to the playground let the kids crawl all over it..have your McD Happy Meal inside.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Nobody in the FBI knew this guy was working as a cop? What about the FBI colleague he raped at knife point? Apparently the FBI didn't vette this clown either, maybe if he was busted for pot they would have taken a closer look. These people carry and use guns folks and have a lot of power and responsibility, if this guy can get hired, how many serial killers are LEOs?
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AP: Trooper charged in child rape hid checkered FBI past (yahoo.com)
AP: Trooper charged in child rape hid checkered FBI past
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — An Alabama state trooper arrested last week on charges he raped an 11-year-old girl had been kicked out of the FBI amid a string of sexual misconduct allegations but was hired by the state agency with the apparent help of a fake bureau letter that scrubbed his record clean.

An Associated Press investigation found Christopher Bauer was suspended without pay and stripped of his security clearance in the FBI’s New Orleans office in late 2018 — effectively fired — amid allegations that included a co-worker’s claim that he raped her at knifepoint.

But Alabama authorities either overlooked or were unaware of that history. The Alabama Law Enforcement Agency, the state police, told AP that it conducted a “full and thorough” investigation into Bauer’s background when he applied to be a trooper in 2019 and that “no derogatory comments were uncovered by former employers.”
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