Please help me

so basically i wait and watch the plants till i see they need nutes ( i should be able to see “when they need it” because theyre “my” plants correct) i think im starting to understand ...

vtim802 said:

so basically i wait and watch the plants till i see they need nutes ( i should be able to see “when they need it” because theyre “my” plants correct) i think im starting to understand ...

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yeah btw your plants look good to me if there was nitrogen toxicity i think they would be darker green. so if there is N toxicity its pretty mild.

They look great, stop messin with them and worrying so much. I exhibited some Hypochondriasis on my first grow to the extent that I messed up a perfectly fine plant cause I was screwing with it. Read some grow threads, spark one up and wait for Santa Cannabis.

vtim802 said:

its a coco mix i guess, thats the part thats been so confusing to me, i spend a ton of time reading on the forums about coco so i am trying to figure it out. part thats confusing is when i read people say to feed coco everyday, but then this stuff says it has nutrients? not sure but its a coco mix

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I'm confused too why some mix coco with something else. Seems to me we would want to go all in on coco or not at all.

So let me get this straight, you're now using bio canna nutes in this canna pro mix and none of that white river? I'm just trying to follow.

Super Skunk sounds nice. Plants look good. Is it just the picture, or are the tops lighter than the bottoms?

the white river stuff is a powdery mix, one of them is for sprnkling on the topsoil, the other to mix into the medium. i have mixed the mineral one into each ones medium, and i have sprinkled some on the top soil about a week ago of the grow one. also i have the full line of BIO CANNA organic nutes, great white mychoriybzzae, and i also have general hydroponics cal/mg. the last watering i only watered with RO water with cal/mg PHed to 5.9. i plan on not using any nutes on the next watering, which is probably tomorrow or the next day. i make aure to lift my smart pots to get a “feel” of what they weigh when completely dry. I think im going to not give any nutes until i can start to see symptoms that they need food.

they are not super skunk, i started soaking some feminized sup skunk seeds, but i pulled them out of the water after a few hours because these plants started looking better. these seeds i forgot to label the pots.

they are either california sour or valley fire

both from dusted bud genetics, they are awesome seeds thats why i am so worried about treating them right. i should started with the feminzied seeds first so i didnt need to go through the trouble of sexing them

vtim802 said:

the white river stuff is a powdery mix, one of them is for sprnkling on the topsoil, the other to mix into the medium. i have mixed the mineral one into each ones medium, and i have sprinkled some on the top soil about a week ago of the grow one. also i have the full line of BIO CANNA organic nutes, great white mychoriybzzae, and i also have general hydroponics cal/mg. the last watering i only watered with RO water with cal/mg PHed to 5.9. i plan on not using any nutes on the next watering, which is probably tomorrow or the next day. i make aure to lift my smart pots to get a “feel” of what they weigh when completely dry. I think im going to not give any nutes until i can start to see symptoms that they need food.

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Don't get mad if I'm wrong because this is a guess, but since I know in strait coco you don't want to do plain water and I think you at least want ca/mg and a little nutes, I'm guessing you still don't want to go water only in a coco/pete mix. So you stopped using the white river so it's probably not much a problem any more if it was. And are your top lieaves are lighter than the bottom leaves? That suggests immobile nute deficiency and if my memory serves me that could be ca/mg. All your nutes except ca/mg are organic. Not sure if that works with pete alone or pete+coco but don't think it does for coco alone so kinda seems like you have the wrong nutes? But the ca/mg is very good for coco. Also the others may be right not to change anything because they don't look bad unless there really is a color difference showing but maybe that's just the camera / lighting.

This is all a guess, lol

no it ok, its all good. i took those pics in the bathroom away from the led light, the color looks uniform throughout the plant, there is small clawing going on on the top leafs on the side pictures above. the peat/coco has nutes so when that depletes ill just start using the bio canna veg, should be all good!! i need the cal mag anyways because i usually use RO water, the bio canna lines rhns light on nitrogen its a 3-1-5 so thats why i got the white river gro. i think i just rushed the nutrients because the medium was still hot from the start? does that sound about right? i shouldve just plain watered with ro/cal/mg until they ran out of nutes in the potting mix. think that sounds right, i just burned them, if you see my grow journal i was watering them with a mister with nutes from day 1 lol.

vtim802 said:

no it ok, its all good. i took those pics in the bathroom away from the led light, the color looks uniform throughout the plant, there is small clawing going on on the top leafs on the side pictures above. the peat/coco has nutes so when that depletes ill just start using the bio canna veg, should be all good!!

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ok maybe so, but the coco doesn't hold nutes. So hopefully it's the pete that does. I'm not sure does pete? You'd think they wouldn't sell shit that the nutes would just wash out of but you never know. Though coco does have K, but too much of it sometimes. That's what I know.

coco, peat, sphagnjm moss, perlite, wood pieces, dolomite lime i think thats all the stuff and it says what the nutes are on the picture of the back of the bag i posted, it probably doesnt have that much nutrients so i definitely have to add more when it has used them all up. so when i transplant guess im already adding nutes.... wow lightbulb. i transplanted them 5-6 days ago and gave them a does of nutes and transplanted (probably early so still had nutes from the old soil) wow all starting to make sense lol

vtim802 said:

coco, peat, sphagnjm moss, perlite, wood pieces, dolomite lime i think thats all the stuff and it says what the nutes are on the picture of the back of the bag i posted

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if those are all the ingredients then your mix actually contains very little fertilizer. Fertilizers are things like Worm Castings, Bat Guano, Soybean Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Fish Bone Meal, Kelp Meal, and Greensand and countless other things like that.

your mix actually doesnt sound like it's that hot after all. i don't think you did anything wrong amending it. i think you're doing fine.

I must be missing it, I don't see nutes on the bag except lime if you count that which probably helps but it might wash off rather than get drunk. Not sure why they look as good as they do lol. Ok a little claw but not bad at all. The above is the stuff he's not using any more.

raggyb said:

I must be missing it, I don't see nutes on the bag except lime if you count that which probably helps but it might wash off rather than get drunk. Not sure why they look as good as they do lol. Ok a little claw but not bad at all. The above is the stuff he's not using any more.

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i think he said he added fertilizer amendments and top dressing and then will use nutrients with his water if/when the plants need them

pulpoinspace said:

i think he said he added fertilizer amendments and top dressing and then will use nutrients with his water if/when the plants need them

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oh well. cool. I wish vtim luck. I don't even live where there's a grow store. Lol, wouldn't that be great!

i know this picture sucks because of the blurple but did i do this right? trying to do a top/lst and plan on doing a scrog grow due to linited vertical height. i left these four main fan leaves and cut off the small shoots that were on the bottom of the plant, and pulled off the cotyledons gently. i still have my other two plants i have just topped, but not cut off the other stuff. is this ok? also when i do a scrog how the hell am i supposed to flush the plant when they are all tied up in the trellis net?

the two shoots that you can see in the above pic will turn into my main colas right? also i used small pruning scissors to cut off the new growth on the bottom nodes, is that ok or ws i supposed to cleanly pull the shoots off?

im not supposed to tie down the fan leaves like that am i?

vtim802 said:

i know this picture sucks because of the blurple but did i do this right? trying to do a top/lst and plan on doing a scrog grow due to linited vertical height. i left these four main fan leaves and cut off the small shoots that were on the bottom of the plant, and pulled off the cotyledons gently. i still have my other two plants i have just topped, but not cut off the other stuff. is this ok? also when i do a scrog how the hell am i supposed to flush the plant when they are all tied up in the trellis net?

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Yea can't see too well but looks like it will work.

Yes it will be harder to flush. Some people use a shop vac and have the pots sitting in a large enough tray to vac up the excess.

vtim802 said:

the two shoots that you can see in the above pic will turn into my main colas right?

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yes

vtim802 said:

also i used small pruning scissors to cut off the new growth on the bottom nodes, is that ok or ws i supposed to cleanly pull the shoots off?

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I would not recommend fucking with the cotyledons but it will be ok.

vtim802 said:

im not supposed to tie down the fan leaves like that am i?

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No I don't think so.

i released the fan leaves, after reading about it more i see its sposed to be the shoots, not the fans. the cotydelons i pulled off all three plants, they came off really easy with a thin membrane off the stem. i just posted a new thread about my runoff, it was at 4550 in one plant, is that right? the nutes i just watered with were only 220 ppm. no i literally pruned the entire bottom node, the one that has a single leaf for a fan leaf. the set in between the coty and the first real node with real fan leaves

vtim802 said:

i released the fan leaves, after reading about it more i see its sposed to be the shoots, not the fans. the cotydelons i pulled off all three plants, they came off really easy with a thin membrane off the stem. i just posted a new thread about my runoff, it was at 4550 in one plant, is that right? the nutes i just watered with were only 220 ppm. no i literally pruned the entire bottom node, the one that has a single leaf for a fan leaf. the set in between the coty and the first real node with real fan leaves

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Oh, I think you're over pruning for a little plant. Just let it grow for a while. I mean the topping is ok but there is no reason to prune the 1 leaf stem and the plant could use that leaf right now. Pruning the coty just seems like asking for trouble and more risk than it's worth. If you runoff is 4550 ppm, that is crazy high. What the hell is in that mix? Keep measuring it. Maybe it will wash out quick.