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vtim802

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not sure whats going on plants look droopy and when i run my hand over the top they feel dry and brittle, but i definitely have overwatered, been waiting 3 days and CANNA TERRA PRO PLUS is still damp and COLD, this canna terra pro plus sucks balls. im a noob, was sold this shit by the “hydro guy” who told me it was soil, didnt know it had nutes already, so i have no fucking clue where im at as far as feeding is concerned. going to have to get different medium to grow in, and also, if this stuff has nutes in it already, what happens when i transplant into it? i just constantly dont need to nute at all? dont get it
 

vtim802

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if i just add perlite will that work? what am i supposed to do with my plants currently in the 1 gallon smart pots? mix perlite into what i transplant into? im fucking worried this dirt issue is going to ruin my whole grow, if it isnt already ruined
 

Beachwalker

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So this is your soil, I'm not familiar with it but but it doesn't sound bad might be something you're doing?

I'm not clear from what you've said exactly what your asking? But here's the link, you might want to go here and it might get you back on track, good luck

http://www.cannagardening.com/terra_professional_plus?pk_campaign=Search&pk_kwd=Branded&pk_medium=SEM&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_7HdBRDPARIsAN_ltcJ3mtILjySlWvinkW3-31zEckukBQA4Znvt5vO323nVrGoyaRzHkEAaAuRIEALw_wcB

* I will add that you don't have to start feeding fresh soil right away, sometimes I don't feed Fox Farms ocean forest for 6 weeks or more and then only very lightly going forward
 

vtim802

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canna terra pro plus is a peat/coco mix, i think my plants are oberloaded with nutes because i was using nutes and i also used a topsoil fertilizer and a mineral mix-in with my canna terra pro plus which is causing some kind of nutrient excess in the plant, it looks way too green and its also brittle/dry on the leaf tips
 

pulpoinspace

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if this stuff has nutes in it already, what happens when i transplant into it? i just constantly dont need to nute at all? dont get it
yeah if you use a hotter soil you don't have to add nutes for the first 1-3 weeks. don't add nutes until it looks like your plants want nutes.
 

vtim802

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i mixed in a mineral mix designed for soil and also topdressed a “grow” topsoil, im starting to think all the minerals i added to the terra cann pro plus is the problem now. would it be possible to retransant the plant into new terra canna pro plus to attempt to get rid of the filling fertilizers i mixed into what its growing in now. my qorry is the medium is so hot its going to take weeks to recover, the plants are only 3 weeks old so if it takes two weeks for them to recover id rather atart frsh
 

vtim802

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i mixed this shit into the actual soil, and topped dressed with this other shit twice.



i think i mixed/topped too much of this shit

i origiannly thought i was using an inert potting mix so was reading a thread about what bio canna lacks ( the nutes im using) so i supplemented the medium with this shit, pretty sure im just going to start fresh now and start soaking new seeds
 

vtim802

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on top of all this bullshit i dont even know if the plants are male or female and i dont know the strain (noobness i forgot to relabel after transplanting
 

Blitz35

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Seems you made a mess of this, but not posting a pic of the plant, but rather the bags of stuff you put, will not help your case! lol First off, why would you put all these organic nutes (seems made for soil) to the top soil? You're growing in coco, it doesn't 'hang on' to nutes, you are just flushing most of them out with each watering! Either way, without pics, it's a real guessing game, good luck on the next grow!
 

vtim802

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:shock::peace::wall:thought i posted the pics? i will in a second im driving. i “thought” canna trrra pro plus was organic soil, thats what my hydro guy told me... thats what i get for listening to hydro shop. you guys know more.
 

vtim802

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i definitely fucked it up, 1- from starting with regular seeds and not feminized when i cannot have more. than two in flowering, 2- adding nutes and also the stuff oictured above into my medium. going to start 3 feminized super skunk now, not going to give any nutes and just plain water, is that right for canna terra pro plus? my question now is when do i know when to give nutes? going to keep the three going and give them to my mother, her and her hisband want to veg them through the winter then put them outside in their garden next year. and this way once they show preflowers i can get a couple clones from their house and still grow the strains.
 

Blitz35

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i definitely fucked it up, 1- from starting with regular seeds and not feminized when i cannot have more. than two in flowering, 2- adding nutes and also the stuff oictured above into my medium. going to start 3 feminized super skunk now, not going to give any nutes and just plain water, is that right for canna terra pro plus? my question now is when do i know when to give nutes? going to keep the three going and give them to my mother, her and her hisband want to veg them through the winter then put them outside in their garden next year. and this way once they show preflowers i can get a couple clones from their house and still grow the strains.
Looked at the pics,i honestly can't see anything at all, i was expecting a plant with issues, i don't see any yellowing, spots, browning, nothing at all, just a bit wrinkly, but again, that could be wind/fan like you mentioned or possibly a slight issue with watering habits. Otherwise, the plant is all green with no nute issues in my opinion.
As for the question, when to feed..well that comes with experience and knowledge. there is no 'preset' amount of nutes to give really, strains and environments differ. I know for now it makes no sense, but the advice would be, you feed the plants when they show they want something. You eventually will get used to how they look, and like anything, failing will hopefully teach you the most as personally, what helped me the most over the years was actually going through the problems and having severe magnesium deficiencies, nitrogen def and toxicities, lack of and too much potassium, missing phosphorus, or missing magnesium which affects phosphorus, eventually you get to see all the symptoms first hand, and after enough reading and learning and going through the tribulations, you will know what the issue is and how to correct it. My first plants, i went by the saying that seems popular, less is more, and i starved the hell out of both of them at the onset of flowering lol. Then i had a sativa for the first time, learnt they don't like as much food and went through some issues with that grow. You have to trip, in order to learn how to walk properly! :)
 

vtim802

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thank you for the help, seriously i appreciate it. i know its a first grow, i fucked alot of thjngs up, i had teo strains to start which i dont know what is what with the three, and with the nutrient problem added in, i dont know which is sative, which is indica, so messing everything up. like i said, atarting 3 feminized super skunk now, just going to keep these three arpund for practice, the way my mind works is i make a lot of mistakes at first, ask alot of questions, and in a month or two, ill figure it out, but i love this forum, thia is a new account but i have an old account from 2008 here when i grew some blueberry in a hydro DWC, so doing this is all new to me. and furthermore, the guy at the hydro shop is a bum, i can tell just talking to him hes not real intelligent. his claim to fame is hes grown for 20years, my thought is you can work at mcdonalds for 30 years but you aint no damn chef, so whatever, getting the growing pains out first, but i can promise that ill figure it out as long as i put effort into it, and i truly listen to what i am told on these forums and try to incorporate that knowledge, with my personal experience, to equal a better understanding of how the plant works, not just a simple i think i over watered. im trying to get a holistic view of how to keep my plant healthy, not how do i get more yield, or how do i get it to grow faster. my main goal is to keep my plants(kids) healthy and strong, so sorry if they look good in the pictures, but i know feom common sense something is STARTING to not be right wih the plants. gonna keep an eye on it and continue posting. thanks guys for reading my long ass posts, and thanks for whatever info you can give me!:eyesmoke::razz::clap:
 

Blitz35

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thank you for the help, seriously i appreciate it. i know its a first grow, i fucked alot of thjngs up, i had teo strains to start which i dont know what is what with the three, and with the nutrient problem added in, i dont know which is sative, which is indica, so messing everything up. like i said, atarting 3 feminized super skunk now, just going to keep these three arpund for practice, the way my mind works is i make a lot of mistakes at first, ask alot of questions, and in a month or two, ill figure it out, but i love this forum, thia is a new account but i have an old account from 2008 here when i grew some blueberry in a hydro DWC, so doing this is all new to me. and furthermore, the guy at the hydro shop is a bum, i can tell just talking to him hes not real intelligent. his claim to fame is hes grown for 20years, my thought is you can work at mcdonalds for 30 years but you aint no damn chef, so whatever, getting the growing pains out first, but i can promise that ill figure it out as long as i put effort into it, and i truly listen to what i am told on these forums and try to incorporate that knowledge, with my personal experience, to equal a better understanding of how the plant works, not just a simple i think i over watered. im trying to get a holistic view of how to keep my plant healthy, not how do i get more yield, or how do i get it to grow faster. my main goal is to keep my plants(kids) healthy and strong, so sorry if they look good in the pictures, but i know feom common sense something is STARTING to not be right wih the plants. gonna keep an eye on it and continue posting. thanks guys for reading my long ass posts, and thanks for whatever info you can give me!:eyesmoke::razz::clap:
When i started, i read for about 4 months about plants and growing, literally 3-6 hours after work i was reading, not many of these forums per se as i saw how much misdirection there was and two way answers, too much uncertainty. I need specifics and 'exact' answers lol, and i realized i will only get that if i learn all the ins and outs myself, because alot made no sense to me at the beginning! I too didn't want to be in that position, where any time there is some yellowing or drooping or whatever, that i have to go through a million steps to figure out what it is, and even then, who knows if i have too little of one element, or too much of another one and that's what's causing the other element to be locked out? The possibilities seemed endless, so i had to learn it all myself, so at least now, when there is any issue, i know right away if it's underfed, or possibly overfed with something else, and i know which element is to blame.
I hope you find your path and each grow gets better!
 

vtim802

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its a coco mix i guess, thats the part thats been so confusing to me, i spend a ton of time reading on the forums about coco so i am trying to figure it out. part thats confusing is when i read people say to feed coco everyday, but then this stuff says it has nutrients? not sure but its a coco mix
 

pulpoinspace

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its a coco mix i guess, thats the part thats been so confusing to me, i spend a ton of time reading on the forums about coco so i am trying to figure it out. part thats confusing is when i read people say to feed coco everyday, but then this stuff says it has nutrients? not sure but its a coco mix
coco itself is an inert medium i.e. no plant food in it. so if your growing in pure coco you would need to feed every day. if you mix coco with other mediums then you don't necessarily. coco is just one ingredient in your potting mix. you're not growing in coco. you're growing in potting mix. i grow in a similar medium to you: roots organic original potting mix which is coco/peat/perlite and some fertilizers. if there are fertilizers in your mix (which there are in most store bought mixes) then you don't need any nutes for the first couple weeks. but you start feeding nutes as soon as plants show signs that they've used up what was in the potting mix.
 
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vtim802

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day 20 from seed

plant 1


plant 2


plant 3


the tent


theres a claw in plant 2 and 3 on the second to top fresh node. nitrogen toxicity?
if more pics needed to figure it out let me know!!
 
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