Plants sagging only at the end of light cycle in veg, before and after pics.

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Kipn said:
some plant will just naturally sag because them leaves are big and ill take a week or two plants look nice regardless of the sag
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Yeah understandable.. Thanks i think they look good too apart from that.
look at the first photo.. thats 5 minutes aftter the lights turned on, they look all perky and nice.
Also these are my temps today as it's cold outside.. don't worry about the RH as its kinda false sitting down that low. Thats at the end of their light cycle with a bit of sag, no where near as bad as yesterday.
 

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Yeah understandable, but look at this photo as the lights turn on they're peaked and sitting up nicely.
Also these are my temps today as it's cold outside.. don't worry about the RH as its kinda false sitting down that low.
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ive always been told if the stem of the leave is standing up right but the leaves are fat and droopy its too much water but since others have said that i am stumped i dont care for RH as long as its under 60% its fine
 
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Kipn said:
ive always been told if the stem of the leave is standing up right but the leaves are fat and droopy its too much water but since others have said that i am stumped i dont care for RH as long as its under 60% its fine
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Yeah, i've read that too.
I might let them dry out a bit more than usual and see if that helps, may have been overwatering a bit.
I'm going to find it hard to tell when they need water as i won't be able to lift the pots, as thats what i usually do to know.
My RH goes over 60 when the lights are out and can range from 59c to 70c, it will get to 70RH, hopefully don't have problems in flower with that. But i have a shitload of air movement and air exchange.
 
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Close, New Zealand.
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umm you really mean c at 59c to 70c how are your plants not dead 27c max in veg 25c max in flower
summer in aus gets like 40c and i feel like im going to die to have your grow room in the 70c range is crazy
most people on here are from the states that use Fahrenheit and have probably miss understood your temps
you really need to get them temps way down
70RH in flower and you will start to get mold
 
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umm you really mean c at 59c to 70c how are your plants not dead 27c max in veg 25c max in flower
summer in aus gets like 40c and i feel like im going to die to have your grow room in the 70c range is crazy
most people on here are from the states that use Fahrenheit and have probably miss understood your temps
you really need to get them temps way down
70RH in flower and you will start to get mold
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Hahahah, hell no it's not that hot :P
I was converting it to Fahrenheit cause most people on here are American..
Never gets over 28c and sits around 21-28c lights on and 15c-21c lights off.
I can't get the RH down during lights off cause there's no room for dehumidifier.
I've grown before and had 70RH during lights off with barely any air replacement and i was fine.. so i assume i'd be fine with this new setup.
 
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I was converting it to Fahrenheit cause most people on here are American..
Never gets over 28c and sits around 21-28c lights on and 15c-21c lights off.
I can't get the RH down on lights cause there's no room for dehumidifier.
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oh good i tend to convert if im commenting. i stop growing over summer as i find its just too hard with the heat
do you not leave your extract fan on 24/7 i run a 6inch extract with a 4 inch intake and mine stays around 55 consistently i did read you have good air exchange NZ must be a little more humid then Melbourne i guess dont worry about it and just keep the air moving and dont leave water sitting around in the tent best youll be able to do. fuck running dehumidifier or ac electricity cost too much for that. maybe invest in some quantum boards ill help keep the grow cooler plus its cheaper by the end of 3 months still cant run them over summer
 
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oh good i tend to convert if im commenting. i stop growing over summer as i find its just too hard with the heat
do you not leave your extract fan on 24/7 i run a 6inch extract with a 4 inch intake and mine stays around 55 consistently i did read you have good air exchange NZ must be a little more humid then Melbourne i guess dont worry about it and just keep the air moving and dont leave water sitting around in the tent best youll be able to do. fuck running dehumidifier or ac electricity cost too much for that. maybe invest in some quantum boards ill help keep the grow cooler plus its cheaper by the end of 3 months still cant run them over summer
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Yeah, i tend to convert it too, as most people won't and then they cbf helping you cause it's too much work haha.
I leave it running 24/7 but it still seems to get to 70odd RH but i was taking that on the ground so i've put a RH meter up at canopy height and ill see what it reads just before lights turn on to give me a idea of what it is.
I don't understand how it gets so high when it gets to 30RH during lights on i would've thought it would be around 50 at max.
I've used LED before but had to use heating, i'd rather run a light that creates heat and have to fight heat problems.
In winter the setup will be a lot easier to control as temps are around -5 to 5 at night and 12-15 during the day.
 
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Yeah, i tend to convert it too, as most people won't and then they cbf helping you cause it's too much work haha.
I leave it running 24/7 but it still seems to get to 70odd RH but i was taking that on the ground so i've put a RH meter up at canopy height and ill see what it reads just before lights turn on to give me a idea of what it is.
I don't understand how it gets so high when it gets to 30RH during lights on i would've thought it would be around 50 at max.
I've used LED before but had to use heating, i'd rather run a light that creates heat and have to fight heat problems.
In winter the setup will be a lot easier to control as temps are around -5 to 5 at night and 12-15 during the day.
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sounds like your in a un insulated shed -5 would be a problem leds would differently be bad for that
 
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Kipn said:
sounds like your in a un insulated shed -5 would be a problem leds would differently be bad for that
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-5 outside that is...
It certainly doesn't get that low inside, maybe 5-10 in the cupboard without heating or anything.
House will generally be pretty warm inside as i have the fire running 24/7 over winter.
I'll just have to wing it and see how it turns out, these 3 are just a test run basically but a proper run at that as i've grown before and know what im doing.
I will only be growing 2 usually, but had a bit of a mess up with seeds and had to do 3.
So doing 2 in there and vegging for 6 weeks roughly and scrogging each time.
 
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thats how i started growing indoors by wingging it until i found this rollitup
if you have time start trying to learn real hydro and scrap soil or coca
it talk more work to grow real hydro but it takes all the guess work out because you can monitor everything so much easier even with crappy ph and ec/ppm meters although its not for everyone life style
learn the style that works with your life and stick with it things can only get get better if you dedicate to one style
 
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thats how i started growing indoors by wingging it until i found this rollitup
if you have time start trying to learn real hydro and scrap soil or coca
it talk more work to grow real hydro but it takes all the guess work out because you can monitor everything so much easier even with crappy ph and ec/ppm meters although its not for everyone life style
learn the style that works with your life and stick with it things can only get get better if you dedicate to one style
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I've looked at hydro but it's more noise with bubblers etc and pumps. I really don't want that.
I like the taste of soil too as i've done organic most of my grows but this ones not.
I'm not in it for huge yield, just want quality bud as most the shit here sucks.
 
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Kipn said:
thats how i started growing indoors by wingging it until i found this rollitup
if you have time start trying to learn real hydro and scrap soil or coca
it talk more work to grow real hydro but it takes all the guess work out because you can monitor everything so much easier even with crappy ph and ec/ppm meters although its not for everyone life style
learn the style that works with your life and stick with it things can only get get better if you dedicate to one style
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grilledcheese101 said:
Yeqhs theyre rootbound my dude, let them dry all the way bone dry and trqnsplant asap, itll only get worse!
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Fullscan19 said:
Keep us posted, fabric pots help a shit ton. Where are the lights currently at?
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Update, lights just turned on, they're looking super good.
Hopefully by tmrw morning when lights are about to turn off they have recovered and look a bit better with each day.
Btw, from left to right they are "Dinafem Remo Chemo" Amherst Sour Diesel" and Humboltd Purple Trainwreck.
 

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Update, lights just turned on, they're looking super good.
Hopefully by tmrw morning when lights are about to turn off they have recovered and look a bit better with each day.
Btw, from left to right they are "Dinafem Remo Chemo" Amherst Sour Diesel" and Humboltd Purple Trainwreck.
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starting to look perky and happy got to love seeing them leaves praying to the light
 
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starting to look perky and happy got to love seeing them leaves praying to the light
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They're looking great, they just don't look so great by the end of their light cycle.
Do you think i should keep the light @ 25 inches or lower it slowly if they start looking okay by the end of their light cycle.
 
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They're looking great, they just don't look so great by the end of their light cycle.
Do you think i should keep the light @ 25 inches or lower it slowly if they start looking okay by the end of their light cycle.
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id leave it and let the plant grow in to the space with in two weeks id expect them to at least 5 inches well id expect them to double in size in two weeks
 
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id leave it and let the plant grow in to the space with in two weeks id expect them to at least 5 inches well id expect them to double in size in two weeks
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They're well over 5 inches tall.
Yeah, hopefully they will and should cause i wanted to flip them at 5-6 weeks.
Will have to put a screen up in a week or so.
 
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They're well over 5 inches tall.
Yeah, hopefully they will and should cause i wanted to flip them at 5-6 weeks.
Will have to put a screen up in a week or so.
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id expect by week 6 veg you'll be able to flip although plants do veg slower in soil it might take 8 weeks or longer to fill your scrog
 
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Kipn said:
id expect by week 6 veg you'll be able to flip although plants do veg slower in soil it might take 8 weeks or longer to fill your scrog
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I grew in a very similar area half the size and fill that with 1 plant in 6 weeks.
I should be able to fill this in 6ish weeks with these, only problem is the one on the right and middle plant are about a week and 2 days behind the big one.
So the big one is 4 weeks 1 day today and the others are 3 weeks 1 day.
 
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