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Go go n chill

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Have been growing in Foxfarm ocean forest that has been amended in my plants are doing super well. When growing plants like this how do you give them a boost during flower or do you even worry about it ? And if you do run into a deficiency which organic amendments are quick release? I’m new and am interested
 

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"boosts" that I use are topdressings around week 3 of flower, which break down during 4-7th weeks. Mainly just go for NPK of "low"-"high"-"medium" in number, like 3-7-4 for example. but it all depends on if you think it needs it. I started using bloom enhancer like that because my soil mix was not producing the yields i knew plants were capable of, they were fading a lot to soon, and you could tell the mix was not complete. Now i'm trying to enhance the soil nutrition more by going with 2/3c of amendment per cu.ft. with certain amendments so I don't have to worry about topdressing. if they show no negative signs, i'm gonna do a mix with 1c per cu.ft. of certain amendments and see how that goes.

you can get into bokashi/fermentation which extracts nutrients in a liquid form and you can feed those to try and give a boost. also AACT with quality EWC will contain chelated and solubilized nutrients that will feed plants, and also boost microbial activity which will results in more decomp, and faster nutrient delivery (speculating here).

also, well timed use of auxins, salicylic acid, and cytokinins will also have an effect on flower production and speed, but you need to apply these product with a specific purpose, and not just as an "additive". I would recommend researching what those particular hormones do and that will give you a better understanding of when to apply them in small doses.
 
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Go go n chill

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ShLUbY said:
"boosts" that I use are topdressings around week 3 of flower, which break down during 4-7th weeks. Mainly just go for NPK of "low"-"high"-"medium" in number, like 3-7-4 for example. but it all depends on if you think it needs it. I started using bloom enhancer like that because my soil mix was not producing the yields i knew plants were capable of, they were fading a lot to soon, and you could tell the mix was not complete. Now i'm trying to enhance the soil nutrition more by going with 2/3c of amendment per cu.ft. with certain amendments so I don't have to worry about topdressing. if they show no negative signs, i'm gonna do a mix with 1c per cu.ft. of certain amendments and see how that goes.

you can get into bokashi/fermentation which extracts nutrients in a liquid form and you can feed those to try and give a boost. also AACT with quality EWC will contain chelated and solubilized nutrients that will feed plants, and also boost microbial activity which will results in more decomp, and faster nutrient delivery (speculating here).

also, well timed use of auxins, salicylic acid, and cytokinins will also have an effect on flower production and speed, but you need to apply these product with a specific purpose, and not just as an "additive". I would recommend researching what those particular hormones do and that will give you a better understanding of when to apply them in small doses.
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Thank you, good food to chew on. My amended soil is a bit hot on N and everything I THINK Seems fine. I was just hoping for some preemptive knowledge. I saw I bit of yellowing on one plant but it could be because it’s shaded from the light.
And I’ve top dressed with high P bat quano and fish bone meal. This is about my second or third harvest with just amended soil. I have a King Tut that is doing great with just soil. I’ll check into your suggestions
 
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lokie

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Go go n chill said:
Thank you, good food to chew on. My amended soil is a bit hot on N and everything I THINK Seems fine. I was just hoping for some preemptive knowledge. I saw I bit of yellowing on one plant but it could be because it’s shaded from the light.
And I’ve top dressed with high P bat quano and fish bone meal. This is about my second or third harvest with just amended soil. I have a King Tut that is doing great with just soil. I’ll check into your suggestions
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King Tut? That's one I'm interested in. Have you smoked or grown this one before?:confused:
 
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lokie said:
King Tut? That's one I'm interested in. Have you smoked or grown this one before?:confused:
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No I have not at harvest in six weeks but I did pull a ton of clones because it has grown so well . I do have a grow journal if you would like to check it out. Here is a pic of the stacking! There is over 30 of these on the same plant
 

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lokie said:
King Tut? That's one I'm interested in. Have you smoked or grown this one before?:confused:
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It’s not a new strain I think most people have moved on to bigger and better strains but I like it! I may keep a mother I really don’t have room or money for bail
 
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Beachwalker

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Go go n chill said:
No I have not at harvest in six weeks but I did pull a ton of clones because it has grown so well . I do have a grow journal if you would like to check it out. Here is a pic of the stacking! There is over 30 of these on the same plant
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I've looked at that strain as well, didn't it recently test at 30% thc or am I thinking of Tutankhamun ?
 
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Go go n chill said:
Have been growing in Foxfarm ocean forest that has been amended in my plants are doing super well. When growing plants like this how do you give them a boost during flower or do you even worry about it ? And if you do run into a deficiency which organic amendments are quick release? I’m new and am interested
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Super nice work brother! You have got so good in such a short time. :-)
 
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MichiganMedGrower

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Go go n chill said:
Thank you, good food to chew on. My amended soil is a bit hot on N and everything I THINK Seems fine. I was just hoping for some preemptive knowledge. I saw I bit of yellowing on one plant but it could be because it’s shaded from the light.
And I’ve top dressed with high P bat quano and fish bone meal. This is about my second or third harvest with just amended soil. I have a King Tut that is doing great with just soil. I’ll check into your suggestions
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Maybe topdress with a balanced organic dry pelleted compost based fertilizer?

Careful with excessive phosphorous. Our plant likes a balance of nitrogen,potassium and calcium in higher amounts than P.
 
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MichiganMedGrower

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It’s amazing what a good old fashion ass ripping Will accomplish and a whole lot of honesty thanks to you
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Yeah I felt bad about that. But looks like it helped just like my mean ( direct speaking) breeder did for me.

He said.

“Those look like shit! Why all yellow? Your soil is way too acidic! Stop pouring stupid PH down in and let the poor things dry out!”

Lol.
 
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King Tut by Canuk.
THC Content Very High (I saw one review that claimed 22.5%)
https://truenorthseedbank.com/king-tut-feminized-seeds-canuk-seeds-elite-strain

Tutankhamon by Pyramid seeds.
THC Content 23% - 33% (as tested at Spannabis Barcelona 2011)
https://truenorthseedbank.com/tutankhamon-feminized-seeds-pyramid-seeds

Both claim AK47 lineage. Both through truenorthseedbank .

Hard to say they are the same.

I would grow and smoke either but it is the Tutankhamon I was originally thinking of.
 
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Go go n chill

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lokie said:
King Tut by Canuk.
THC Content Very High (I saw one review that claimed 22.5%)
https://truenorthseedbank.com/king-tut-feminized-seeds-canuk-seeds-elite-strain

Tutankhamon by Pyramid seeds.
THC Content 23% - 33% (as tested at Spannabis Barcelona 2011)
https://truenorthseedbank.com/tutankhamon-feminized-seeds-pyramid-seeds

Both claim AK47 lineage. Both through truenorthseedbank .

Hard to say they are the same.

I would grow and smoke either but it is the Tutankhamon I was originally thinking of.
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I thought they were the same but I could’ve mistaken do they have different pictures? I think address certain percentage of THC I would not really noticed a difference
 
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lokie said:
King Tut by Canuk.
THC Content Very High (I saw one review that claimed 22.5%)
https://truenorthseedbank.com/king-tut-feminized-seeds-canuk-seeds-elite-strain

Tutankhamon by Pyramid seeds.
THC Content 23% - 33% (as tested at Spannabis Barcelona 2011)
https://truenorthseedbank.com/tutankhamon-feminized-seeds-pyramid-seeds

Both claim AK47 lineage. Both through truenorthseedbank .

Hard to say they are the same.

I would grow and smoke either but it is the Tutankhamon I was originally thinking of.
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I had read somewhere on a website that they often called them both by the same name but I don’t know for sure
 
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Go go n chill said:
I had read somewhere on a website that they often called them both by the same name but I don’t know for sure
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Yes a stoner will often go with whatever he is told or makes sense at the time.

The breeders have more at stake.

I don't know that they are different and like you, I probably won't know the THC level
at the time I'm blazing.:bigjoint:
 
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Growitpondifarm

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I am also interested in this. My first run ditching the synthetics appeared to lose steam around 40 days with early onset yellowing. Quality appears to not be harmed but yield definitely leaves a little to be desired.

My next mix will be based on coots style, with 1/3 Peat Moss, 1/3 compost(I’m using 1/2 EWC and 1/2 local lobster compost) 1/3 aeration(going to mix some pumice and old perlite I have laying around)

I’m going to keep the amendments down to
neem/Karanja, crab meal and kelp on the nutrient end

Basalt, gypsum and oyster shell for the minerals.

Anything that might breakdown slower that I could amend to this mix that would could help me pull a solid 8-10 week flowering period?
 
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ShLUbY

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Growitpondifarm said:
I am also interested in this. My first run ditching the synthetics appeared to lose steam around 40 days with early onset yellowing. Quality appears to not be harmed but yield definitely leaves a little to be desired.

My next mix will be based on coots style, with 1/3 Peat Moss, 1/3 compost(I’m using 1/2 EWC and 1/2 local lobster compost) 1/3 aeration(going to mix some pumice and old perlite I have laying around)

I’m going to keep the amendments down to
neem/Karanja, crab meal and kelp on the nutrient end

Basalt, gypsum and oyster shell for the minerals.

Anything that might breakdown slower that I could amend to this mix that would could help me pull a solid 8-10 week flowering period?
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greensand is a great addition to the coots mix, as i found it was lacking in K a bit because 1) kelp breaks down so quickly, and 2) kelp is 1% K by weight... so 1/2c per cu.ft. contains very little K at all... which makes it difficult to grow large flowers. i'm working with a coots mix right now (just planted into it) that runs amendments at 2/3c per cu.ft + greensand and the usual rock dust suspects. I've found with coots mix that yields were below expectation, but quality is off the charts of course. I started topdressing a bloom mix in flower around week 3 (3-7-4 NPK) about 1/3c per plant and got some measurable yield increases... now i'm trying to see how heavy i can push the mix. if my 2/3c per cu.ft. goes well with no issues, i'm gonna make one with 1c per cu.ft. also, i left the oyster shell at 1/2 cup, because i don't want over buffering of the soil pH.
 
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