Phosphorus or Potassium during flower???

Nutty sKunK

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The nutritional needs are the same, the ability to uptake certain elements is what changes.



If you're implying that experience doesn't matter then you're an idiot.
That’s a very interesting statement.

And it makes total sense. Perhaps that’s why people fry their plants as they give more P/K at the time can absorb more P/K

Is that what you’re basically saying?
 

homebrewer

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That’s a very interesting statement.

And it makes total sense. Perhaps that’s why people fry their plants as they give more P/K at the time can absorb more P/K

Is that what you’re basically saying?
Well in this case I think it has more to do with people *thinking* they need to feed more P/K when the plants don't actually need it and that can create a bad situation in the root zone. Elements like potassium can be fed in excess and the plant will pull them up even though they're not need, it's called luxury consumption, but excessive P (or any element for that matter) can seriously stress the plant.
 

Hydro4life

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Well in this case I think it has more to do with people *thinking* they need to feed more P/K when the plants don't actually need it and that can create a bad situation in the root zone. Elements like potassium can be fed in excess and the plant will pull them up even though they're not need, it's called luxury consumption, but excessive P (or any element for that matter) can seriously stress the plant.
What if they do require more P/K? Would you increase your vegging nutes ppm/ec? :wall:
 

Kushash

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( sitting quietly in the bleachers ) ..... *opens another beer
LOL!
I almost couldn't wait and was going to play psychic and use @homebrewers responses from post #41 and post #45.


What if they do require more P/K? Would you increase your vegging nutes ppm/ec? :wall:
The OP's question has been answered. If you have additional questions you should probably start reading.
Still waiting on a picture.
 

Hydro4life

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Well, they don't in this case.

Btw, where are your pictures?
What if they did?
Surely with ALL your knowledge from “experience” you would understand that feeding requirements vary from strain to strain, phenotype to phenotype, environment and media used!?????????
 

Hydro4life

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LOL!
I almost couldn't wait and was going to play psychic and use @homebrewers responses from post #41 and post #45.

Yep, it’s called “tip toeing” Kushash. And homebrewer seems very good at “tip toeing” around questions without giving a solid answer.




 

homebrewer

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homebrewer

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ANYONE THAT HAS HAD SPIDERMITES AND ERADICATED THEM, PLEASE HELP!

This is a cry of a desperate man. :cry:
I have just discovered while cloning in my veg room that I have spider mites :wall:
These little bastards are my worst fear as I have had them before and after a 6 month battle of getting no where, I ended up culling my perpetual grow, removing any food source and disinfecting both grow rooms, all my equipment, floors, walls etc. and waiting a week before starting all over from seed!

I found rotating through different oils would keep them at bay but never eradicate them. using neem oil, then 2 or 3 days later, white oil, then throw in a hit of perythrium another 2 or 3 days later......

I really don’t want a long standing battle with these guys lol.

Has anyone become victorious over spider mites? And if so, what was your method??
Thanks in advance!!
Ah, I now see why you wont post any pictures, your garden is covered in spider mites :clap:.
 

xtsho

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If you feed your plants what they need during the course of their grow you don't need to add anything. Healthy plants make big flowers without the need for any additional bottles of additives. I add a dose of some potassium sulphate midway through flower but that's it. I'm still not sure if it makes a difference.

Base nutes that contain all the necessary elements, keep your plants healthy and don't overfeed. That's all you need to do. Everything else is literally pouring money down the drain.
 

homebrewer

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If you feed your plants what they need during the course of their grow you don't need to add anything. Healthy plants make big flowers without the need for any additional bottles of additives. I add a dose of some potassium sulphate midway through flower but that's it. I'm still not sure if it makes a difference.

Base nutes that contain all the necessary elements, keep your plants healthy and don't overfeed. That's all you need to do. Everything else is literally pouring money down the drain.
I did a side-by-side to test additional amounts of potassium (by adding potassium sulfate) to see if it was beneficial over what I was currently running and it led to sturdier plants - no difference in yield though. Try adding some all the way though the plants life cycle, not just in flower, I think you'll like the results. I get fewer snapped branches in flower now.

Hey, it's good to see you around. I still run some Dyna-Gro because of you. I could never get Bloom to stay in solution. It aways precipitated out on me.
I guess that happens if the bottles were ever exposed to cold weather (like under 40F). I've seen it happen to other foods from other brands too. DG's bloom is so concentrated that maybe it's more common with that bottle? Before I buy one from the store I give them a shake. Even if I run into chunks, I've never seen plant issues because of it, just a less potent mix out of the bottle.
 

Hydro4life

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Incorrect.



Wrong again.



Maybe debatable.



I said that in my first post in this thread. Now where are your pictures?
How is it that you can have 2 or more different strains grown side by side with the same nutrient regime, yet one strain will show signs of cal/mag deficiency?
And yes feeding sometimes does have to be adjusted for different phenotypes as they take on different traits from their parenting strains.
 

homebrewer

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How is it that you can have 2 or more different strains grown side by side with the same nutrient regime, yet one strain will show signs of cal/mag deficiency?
And yes feeding sometimes does have to be adjusted for different phenotypes as they take on different traits from their parenting strains.
Well for starters a cal/mag deficiency doesn't exist - it's either one or the other. And considering any halfway respectable plant food contains both elements, you're NOT seeing a calcium or magnesium deficiency, that's just operator error.

"Well if it's not a cal/mag issue, it's definitely the pH" -every single know-nothing grower on the web
 
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