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Chris Hume

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image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg Ok I'll start out by telling you that I'm using FoxFarm ocean forest and MG seed starter soil 60/40 and also mixed extra pearlite in with the mixture. I've been using straight bottled purified drinking water until Thursday I started using dyna gro foliage pro. 1 ml per gallon. And I have a total of 700w CFLs on her. I can't figure out what is wrong with her! Please help me!?!?
 

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legallyflying

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It looks fine. It needs a little more fertilizer, that is why its cannabolizing the lower leaf. the new growth looks fine.

stay the course. although I WOULD top it.
 
$bkbbudz$

$bkbbudz$

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FFOF is hot too begin with add in some water released nute pellets in the MG, and then the dyna gro...Nute burn my friend. If this were my grow I would stop feeding and cut watering back...let her dry out for a while. OF course never COMPLETELY dry LOL! Let her absorb and use up the nutes that are there now. I would say to flush but the MG would just release more unneeded food. I would not feed at all for at least 3 if not 4 or 5 waterings and even then at only 1/4 strength to start

But, all of this is my opinion. I am sure others will see it differently. Always remember it is your grow. If you take my or anyone else's advice you are shortchanging yourself and could cause more problems for yourself. So, I suggest reading about grow mediums, fertilizing, plant diagnosis etc. Once you have the knowledge you can answer your own questions. :bigjoint:

Good Luck and Great Grow
 
tropicalcannabispatient

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View attachment 3563777 View attachment 3563778 View attachment 3563777 View attachment 3563778 Ok I'll start out by telling you that I'm using FoxFarm ocean forest and MG seed starter soil 60/40 and also mixed extra pearlite in with the mixture. I've been using straight bottled purified drinking water until Thursday I started using dyna gro foliage pro. 1 ml per gallon. And I have a total of 700w CFLs on her. I can't figure out what is wrong with her! Please help me!?!?
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I think either soil is too hot or the mg ferts, but i see burned tips and green foliage makes me think maybe nute burn or n excess. But dont take it from me wait for more people to chime in
 
Thefarmer12

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Lower leaves usually die they don't receive a lot of light usually. Pretty normal looking plant, nice job.

Wouldn't bump up nutes but I wouldn't decrease either. Can't get much better than that shade of green and no canoeing so there isnt N toxicity. Stay the course, friend.
 
Chris Hume

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Thefarmer12 said:
Lower leaves usually die they don't receive a lot of light usually. Pretty normal looking plant, nice job.

Wouldn't bump up nutes but I wouldn't decrease either. Can't get much better than that shade of green and no canoeing so there isnt N toxicity. Stay the course, friend.
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Thx man
 
gardengardian7

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In my opinion the plant is nice. What i see is heat stress and nute burn. The folding of leaves tells you that shes getting to much heat. The 700watts of light is intense. You dont need the side lamp until the buds begin showing. The dark green means that no more nutes can fit in the leaves. The seed starter is no problem. The FFOF is fine. Shes mature enough to withstand the nutrients. What you want to is be adamantly consistant with you water and feed schedule. Like me, i feed every friday perminently. And water every tuesday perminently. You never will have to worry about saturation and compaction. Where as root rot and salt build up will abound. If you take out that side light and top her shell begin to automaticall canopy. The small space is generating lots of heat. She has too many nutes. What you need to do for her is flush lightly and let a few inches from the top dry out. Then water and feed with a consistant schedule. Thus always ph your water and nutes with a 5.8-6.2 reading. If your using plain water always ph the water with those readings. When you feed always use lesser strength. And add your nutes to your gallon first then check your ph and adjust if need be. So flush lightly first. Take out the side light. Take fan off the light becuse its not powerfull enough to cool that lamp and reflector. Sit the fan up and draw the heat out. Churn the soil carefully so you dont break many roots so that air flow and oxygen can seep down in there for the root system. This method will keep you and the plant happy. This is what i would do and have am doing NOWIMG_20151212_214638.jpg shell be fine.
 
Chris Hume

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gardengardian7 said:
In my opinion the plant is nice. What i see is heat stress and nute burn. The folding of leaves tells you that shes getting to much heat. The 700watts of light is intense. You dont need the side lamp until the buds begin showing. The dark green means that no more nutes can fit in the leaves. The seed starter is no problem. The FFOF is fine. Shes mature enough to withstand the nutrients. What you want to is be adamantly consistant with you water and feed schedule. Like me, i feed every friday perminently. And water every tuesday perminently. You never will have to worry about saturation and compaction. Where as root rot and salt build up will abound. If you take out that side light and top her shell begin to automaticall canopy. The small space is generating lots of heat. She has too many nutes. What you need to do for her is flush lightly and let a few inches from the top dry out. Then water and feed with a consistant schedule. Thus always ph your water and nutes with a 5.8-6.2 reading. If your using plain water always ph the water with those readings. When you feed always use lesser strength. And add your nutes to your gallon first then check your ph and adjust if need be. So flush lightly first. Take out the side light. Take fan off the light becuse its not powerfull enough to cool that lamp and reflector. Sit the fan up and draw the heat out. Churn the soil carefully so you dont break many roots so that air flow and oxygen can seep down in there for the root system. This method will keep you and the plant happy. This is what i would do and have am doing NOWView attachment 3563949 shell be fine.
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Wow thanks for the advice I'm going to follow you feeding advice and I'm turning side lamps off tonight. The side lamps do let off some heat but the middle one doesn't.
 
gardengardian7

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You want to use less nutes as possible during veg. You want your veg periods to be as comfortable as possible. A comfortable veg period is part of a few strategies that determines how flower and harvest goes. Right now my Afghani Girl is a survivor of nute burn in her first week two months old. I was testing. She was sick for about a month of stunted growth. I was going to bonsai her to learn but she was pushing to come back to life. Man she turned out nice. But my strategy is Espoma Seed Starter for the first two weeks. Espoma Soil Mix for the next 4 weeks with half strength nutes. GH grow, micro, and rapid starter. Nothing else. This gives your plants smooth flow. The sixth or seventh week transplant into your strong soil of whatever you choose. Me Ocean and or Roots OG. A consistant water and feed schedule and you should be good with the plants. Then there your grow environment you must comfortaly maintain. Such as good air flow and exhaust. Lights at a proper position of at least 6inches or more for a good cast over the plant(s). These things work for me.
 
gardengardian7

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Ill tell you also... with my feed and water schedule, no matter how much my mind tells me to water her, I DONT! Feed on the same day every week. And water on the same day every week. And sometimes what i do too is, when the 2" on the top dries out i water the top ONLY ENOUGH for about a 2 or 3 inch water so that the roots can come up to the top letting the bottom dry out some. This helps to prevent root rot and over watering. Thus good oxygen deep down. And this is why its good to ALWAYS PH your water for the power of oxygen to go deep down. But less is always better. The dryer the better. Always give her just enough to satisfy her not to fill her up.
 
Chris Hume

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gardengardian7 said:
Ill tell you also... with my feed and water schedule, no matter how much my mind tells me to water her, I DONT! Feed on the same day every week. And water on the same day every week. And sometimes what i do too is, when the 2" on the top dries out i water the top ONLY ENOUGH for about a 2 or 3 inch water so that the roots can come up to the top letting the bottom dry out some. This helps to prevent root rot and over watering. Thus good oxygen deep down. And this is why its good to ALWAYS PH your water for the power of oxygen to go deep down. But less is always better. The dryer the better. Always give her just enough to satisfy her not to fill her up.
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I'm following your advice
 
gardengardian7

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Good day Chris. I wanted to show you what FFOF is all about. Most people be down talking it. Truth is, I started these two girls off in the Espoma and because i knocked all the plants over on their prescious little heads and necks... I had to repot them...lol like two days ago. I repotted them in the FFOF. You can see where they took a pinch not a burn but good warmth. Now they are used to it. These two are two weeks and 11 days. If they did slow some it does not effect what they will be. Theyve grown though since i repotted them a few days ago.IMG_20151214_101522.jpg And if push begin to shove... any slowing at this time is ok with me. Shorter node space and it will help not to stretch during the two to three weeks of stretch. I will Keep a journal but in the forum though. However, good growing to you.
 
Chris Hume

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gardengardian7 said:
Good day Chris. I wanted to show you what FFOF is all about. Most people be down talking it. Truth is, I started these two girls off in the Espoma and because i knocked all the plants over on their prescious little heads and necks... I had to repot them...lol like two days ago. I repotted them in the FFOF. You can see where they took a pinch not a burn but good warmth. Now they are used to it. These two are two weeks and 11 days. If they did slow some it does not effect what they will be. Theyve grown though since i repotted them a few days ago.View attachment 3564145 And if push begin to shove... any slowing at this time is ok with me. Shorter node space and it will help not to stretch during the two to three weeks of stretch. I will Keep a journal but in the forum though. However, good growing to you.
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That's awesome bud, keep me updated and I will keep you in the loop also
 
Chris Hume

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gardengardian7 said:
Good day Chris. I wanted to show you what FFOF is all about. Most people be down talking it. Truth is, I started these two girls off in the Espoma and because i knocked all the plants over on their prescious little heads and necks... I had to repot them...lol like two days ago. I repotted them in the FFOF. You can see where they took a pinch not a burn but good warmth. Now they are used to it. These two are two weeks and 11 days. If they did slow some it does not effect what they will be. Theyve grown though since i repotted them a few days ago.View attachment 3564145 And if push begin to shove... any slowing at this time is ok with me. Shorter node space and it will help not to stretch during the two to three weeks of stretch. I will Keep a journal but in the forum though. However, good growing to you.
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Hey bud, I took a lot of your advice on watering and feeding her and it WORKED!!! I only water her every two days and I only use nutes once a week. Also I lowered light closer to to her
 

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