Pandemic 2020

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injinji

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Another local update. My boss's husband's niece died of covid. She waited until she was real bad before going to the hospital. She spent three weeks on the breathing machine with no sign of improvement. They asked the family to pull the plug so someone with a chance of living could use it.

My boss is still not decided to get the jab, but her husband said he was going to get it. So maybe these folks are not dying in vain.
 

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Average cost for COVID-19 ICU patients estimated at more than $50,000: report
The average cost of treating a COVID-19 patient who needs intensive care in Canada is estimated at more than $50,000, compared with $8,400 for someone who's had a heart attack, a new report says.

Data from the Canadian Institute for Health Information (CIHI) shows the average cost for patients being treated for the virus is more than $23,000, which is four times higher than a patient with influenza.

Ann Chapman, interim director of health spending and primary care at CIHI, said the report reinforces the economic consequences of a serious illness, though it does not include the cost for doctors.

The report released Thursday says those with COVID-19 remain in hospital for about 15 days, twice as long as the typical pneumonia patient, whose treatment cost is about $8,000, and that more of those sick with COVID-19 are admitted to ICU and ventilated. One out of every five of them dies in intensive care.

The agency estimated the cost of COVID-19-related hospitalization in Canada, excluding Quebec, at nearly $1 billion between January 2020 and March 2021, the period covered by the report. It said the cost tripled between November 2020 and March of this year.

Chapman said the average COVID-19 patient in the ICU stays in hospital for 21 days, and is much sicker than most other patients.

Dr. Donald Redelmeier, a professor at the University of Toronto's faculty of medicine, said costs spiral quickly for any patient receiving intensive care.

"The one major distinction about COVID patients in the ICU is they stay a long time. They take a long time to recover, if they recover at all," he said.

It's not unusual for patients who've contracted the virus to remain in ICU on a ventilator for over a month as they're treated by multiple personnel, including physiotherapists and respiratory therapists, he said.

Wodchis also noted the report was based on data up until March 2021, when vaccines were less readily available.

"I think we need to have a more generic, general discussion about how do we allocate the scarce health-care resources, as opposed to singling out one population."
 

injinji

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And then there’s the entitled twats that roam our city for 9 months every year.
There were no masks in sight at last weekend's football game over in Tallahassee. I don't know what FSU's protocol is for letting fans in, but I hope they are making them show proof of vaccination.
 

Fogdog

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There were no masks in sight at last weekend's football game over in Tallahassee. I don't know what FSU's protocol is for letting fans in, but I hope they are making them show proof of vaccination.
I've seen the same here in Oregon. Masks are mandated in public indoor spaces and outdoor events with more the 500 in attendance. If its not enforced, many people just ignore the mandate.

Some anti-maskers are angry and aggressive too. I was harassed for wearing a mask by an anti-masker. From the blue. I didn't say or do anything other than wear a mask in an enclosed public space.
 

topcat

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I've seen the same here in Oregon. Masks are mandated in public indoor spaces and outdoor events with more the 500 in attendance. If its not enforced, many people just ignore the mandate.

Some anti-maskers are angry and aggressive too. I was harassed for wearing a mask by an anti-masker. From the blue. I didn't say or do anything other than wear a mask in an enclosed public space.
I don't get out much, and that's just me, not because of the virus. However, I've thought about being accosted by one of these types. Seriously, I don't think I'd take it well and would likely have an assault charge against me. I have to work at containing myself all the time. Om.
 

Fogdog

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I don't get out much, and that's just me, not because of the virus. However, I've thought about being accosted by one of these types. Seriously, I don't think I'd take it well and would likely have an assault charge against me. I have to work at containing myself all the time. Om.
I was on vacation with my family. Some stories just don't need to be told. Like the time I got into a fight in a state park restroom because somebody said something obnoxious to me. The sucker bit me and I had to go to the hospital for some really serious antibiotic treatment. My boys thought my black eye was funny and used a marking pen to make it bigger. Wife was pissed off for me ruining the trip.

Yeah, I'm glad that didn't happen.
 

CunningCanuk

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I was on vacation with my family. Some stories just don't need to be told. Like the time I got into a fight in a state park restroom because somebody said something obnoxious to me. The sucker bit me and I had to go to the hospital for some really serious antibiotic treatment. My boys thought my black eye was funny and used a marking pen to make it bigger. Wife was pissed off for me ruining the trip.

Yeah, I'm glad that didn't happen.
I hope the other guy had wounds to lick too.
 

topcat

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If it happens, I'll try to walk away. If the person follows me, I'll warn that person with a serious, low tone of don't fuck with me. That has worked in the past. Maybe they see the seriousness in my eyes, because by that time, I'm past the flight part and ready for the fight part. I've stayed out of a lot of fights that way. I've been surprised. All for the better.
 

CunningCanuk

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If it happens, I'll try to walk away. If the person follows me, I'll warn that person with a serious, low tone of don't fuck with me. That has worked in the past. Maybe they see the seriousness in my eyes, because by that time, I'm past the flight part and ready for the fight part. I've stayed out of a lot of fights that way. I've been surprised. All for the better.
None of that works in a hockey fight. It’s best to throw off the gloves and go like hell. :)
 

Jimdamick

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bitch would get a throat punch
You could collapse the larynx with the throat, which could be problematic (loss of life?)
I'd go for a nice old blast to the schnozzola.
You know the one, right?
Not the sideway's slant one, the one where the nose is smushed flat. ($1000's for plastic surgey & you never breath right again :)
That would work for me :)
 

Budzbuddha

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You could collapse the larynx with the throat, which could be problematic (loss of life?)
I'd go for a nice old blast to the schnozzola.
You know the one, right?
Not the sideway's slant one, the one where the nose is smushed flat. ($1000's for plastic surgey & you never breath right again :)
That would work for me :)
Then she would cough for real ….. blood , cartilage , etc.
Not concerned if she acts like a dumbass , it’s the intrusion of personal space and the fling of spittle.
Same precaution as a nut job and a syringe….
 

Budzbuddha

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You could collapse the larynx with the throat, which could be problematic (loss of life?)
I'd go for a nice old blast to the schnozzola.
You know the one, right?
Not the sideway's slant one, the one where the nose is smushed flat. ($1000's for plastic surgey & you never breath right again :)
That would work for me :)
Glasgow kiss ?
 
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