Painkillers wtf happened?

UNICRONLIVES

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I have no disc at s1 up to L2..I shave a hydro500 n snort it and 1 pill last me 2/3 days...just enough to make bending over cars n bikes all day tollerable...Gotta get off the pills man...It sucks but imagine how ol fuckers did it w/o!!
 

bu$hleaguer

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Hey ODG, I just watched a Netflix doc on kratom and it’s pretty interesting stuff. As someone who doesn’t have an addiction problem and doesn’t have any pain to speak
of, would it be stupid or dangerous do you think for me to experiment with super small doses of this? Mainly to see it’s uplifting effects, it’s calming effects, etc.

What say you, sensei?
 

Olive Drab Green

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Hey ODG, I just watched a Netflix doc on kratom and it’s pretty interesting stuff. As someone who doesn’t have an addiction problem and doesn’t have any pain to speak
of, would it be stupid or dangerous do you think for me to experiment with super small doses of this? Mainly to see it’s uplifting effects, it’s calming effects, etc.

What say you, sensei?
It’s a coffee plant that contains Mitragynine & 7-Hydroxymitragynine instead of Caffeine. I think you should be able to take Kratom recreationally free of stigma just as you would drinking coffee from Starbucks or tea from Teavana. Be prepared for a really bitter taste. Like green tea and crushed up Tylenol. High alkaloid content. You get used to it, though. You have to learn to toss and wash with juice or get capsules. Never buy pre-encapsulated Kratom, get powdered leaf and encapsulate your own if you must.

Laborers/Coolies in Thailand use Kratom to help them get through the rigors and monotony of their jobs on the docks.

I recommend Red Veins for calming effects, Greens for mood lift and slight energy. Whites can be really stimulating, like cocaine-stimulating. But it’s 100% safe. I prefer Red Bali for pain and sleep.
 

bu$hleaguer

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It’s a coffee plant that contains Mitragynine & 7-Hydroxymitragynine instead of Caffeine. I think you should be able to take Kratom recreationally free of stigma just as you would drinking coffee from Starbucks or tea from Teavana. Be prepared for a really bitter taste. Like green tea and crushed up Tylenol. High alkaloid content. You get used to it, though. You have to learn to toss and wash with juice or get capsules. Never buy pre-encapsulated Kratom, get powdered leaf and encapsulate your own if you must.

Laborers/Coolies in Thailand use Kratom to help them get through the rigors and monotony of their jobs on the docks.

I recommend Red Veins for calming effects, Greens for mood lift and slight energy. Whites can be really stimulating, like cocaine-stimulating. But it’s 100% safe. I prefer Red Bali for pain and sleep.
Badass, man, thanks for the info and insight- heeens sound good, so do the red veins... wonder if i can mix the two and not end up eating my cat or something crazy
 

Olive Drab Green

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Badass, man, thanks for the info and insight- heeens sound good, so do the red veins... wonder if i can mix the two and not end up eating my cat or something crazy
You can mix them. It’ll obviously combine the alkaloidal profile variations, so it’ll be like combining cannabinoid profiles and getting a different entourage. It’s not going to make you eat a cat. White strains occasionally make me irritable, though. Red & Green are chill. Think of Red as Indica and Green as Hybrid. White is not Sativa, White is cocaine.
 

Olive Drab Green

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I will caution anyone taking Kratom to drink plenty of water. Like Kale and Spinach, Kratom is high in oxalic acid. Oxalic acid + Urine + Calcium = Calcium Oxylate Kidney Stones. Stay hydrated to dilute urine so the stones are less likely to build from the oxalates due to dilution keeping them from being formed. Drinking as a tea might be better for this reason. Be sure to flavor it up well and strain thoroughly if you make tea instead of tossing and washing with juice.
 
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ANC

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would it be stupid or dangerous do you think for me to experiment with super small doses of this?
Naaah, just be carefull of taking too much... The worst thing I have seen it do was bring on motion sickness. Like in literally you were OK as long as you didn't move.
Oh, and it can make you a bit constipated.

I used to make tea, but learned it tastes just as bad... SO I ended up just mixing with the smallest amount of water that can hold the material and swallow it down, put a bit more water in the glass and rinse out the last few stuck pieces down the throat.
 

Olive Drab Green

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I have puked from taking too much. Plenty of times. It has to do with the opioid receptor activity. Recovering dope users will recognize this feeling as the “good sick.” Worst case scenario, you just bring up a lot of powdered leaf. It’s never really hindered me, but it’s reminded me to be careful with my dosing. In the beginning of testing a new strain or vendor, I take a teaspoon every 45-1:15 minutes until I find its potency to where my level should be for that particular strain/brand.
 

MuckyDucky

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I saw the netflix video on kratom too and took my first dose yesterday. WOW! got substantial pain relief plus an antidepressant and it also helped my...... ssomething.....? my concentration!!! :-) I am older an have painful joints from arthritis and bad spine problems, pain all the time, hard to walk and move around. Hydrocodone never helped as much as this stuff and it is legal in my state and cheap! I dosed carefully with smaller doses so I didn't feel sick. When I woke this morning the pain in my joints and neck were still much lower than usual. This is day 2. I hope it continues to work.
 

Olive Drab Green

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I saw the netflix video on kratom too and took my first dose yesterday. WOW! got substantial pain relief plus an antidepressant and it also helped my...... ssomething.....? my concentration!!! :-) I am older an have painful joints from arthritis and bad spine problems, pain all the time, hard to walk and move around. Hydrocodone never helped as much as this stuff and it is legal in my state and cheap! I dosed carefully with smaller doses so I didn't feel sick. When I woke this morning the pain in my joints and neck were still much lower than usual. This is day 2. I hope it continues to work.
If you build tolerance, switching between strains (primarily in the same vein color) usually helps.
 

thump easy

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Got it dam that was easy to get off the opiates holy crap it was so easy!!!! I can finally work but the back pain peers through the leaf powder but its easer to cope with it.. Wow this shit realy works.. Al right fuckers back to my old self im gona extract and purify the powders i sold my lab fuuuckkkkk meeee i had a fucken lab i sold the fucker seeing i had no need y y whyieee! Ok i must get to work at ounce!!! I must breed these trees at ounce i have work ahead thank you!! Thank You Guys! I must figues out this process like this guy on reddit!!Screenshot_2018-09-24-14-18-38.png IMG_20180924_144000_01.jpg
 
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