Overdone Supercropping?

Weouthere

Weouthere

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Hey guys! I was messing around in the tent the other night doing some training and defoliating, and decided to try supercropping one of my plants for the first time. I’ve seen it work really well and figured “what the hell”.

I did it fine on most of the branches, but my main stem I might have overdone.. it seems to be healing fine and the nodes that are now bent over are looking healthy.

am I in the clear? Am I inviting any possible downsides from this?l like mold/breakage/bugs?
 

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TheOriginalKryptonite

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It’s fine, a large knuckle will form on the break. The bend wasn’t great but as long as it doesn’t snap/split it heals. Sometimes as I’m bending the occasional branch splits and will wilt and dye if left. When this happens, straighten and line up the stem like a fractured bone. Simply stick silver tape to the break and only fold it over on itself, so to give the stem rigidity to remain in position. Whereas if you just wrap it around the stem in a circle it’s not as rigid and the branch could flop. Give it a few days and it repairs. I’ve never had problems with bugs and or mould entering a dodgy bend. I must finish by saying never try bending after the third week of flowering, they don’t heal.
 
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TheOriginalKryptonite said:
It’s fine, a large knuckle will form on the break. The bend wasn’t great but as long as it doesn’t snap/split it heals. Sometimes as I’m bending the occasional branch splits and will wilt and dye if left. When this happens, straighten and line up the stem like a fractured bone. Simply stick silver tape to the break and only fold it over on itself, so to give the stem rigidity to remain in position. Whereas if you just wrap it around the stem in a circle it’s not as rigid and the branch could flop. Give it a few days and it repairs. I’ve never had problems with bugs and or mould entering a dodgy bend. I must finish by saying never try bending after the third week of flowering, they don’t heal.
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Thanks for the response! I’m still in veg, so no worries there, but thanks for the info!
The bend/break area seems brown and slightly split, so that’s what worries me. I’m now wondering if I could tape it, but leave it bent just at not such an extreme angle. The tape might act as a support on the inside of the bend..?
Or would you say tape isn’t necessary? It’s been 3 or 4 days at least since I bent it. Even if it dies, it was the tallest plant and wanted it shorter, so I have no problems cutting it off. Like i said, this was a first attempt and a slight experiment:bigjoint:
 
Star Dog

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I wouldn't have any concerns but for future reference you can twist the stem back and fourth between your fingers and soften it so it doesn't knuckle or crease/fold.
Twist back and fourth you'll feel it twisting a little more each twist then you might but not always feel a slight crack, that's apparently the hurd snapping wtf that is I don't know however the twisting works 100% in preventing stem wounds.
 
Horselover fat

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You need to support it if it flops down because the branch is ripped right through and only hanging by thread. If it somewhat holds it's self up it will be fine. The inside of a branch is support structure and the leathery outer layer is where goodies flow.

No strings or nets. Just crushing and bending.
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TheOriginalKryptonite

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That bend is fine, you can see the leaves haven’t wilted and the branch is bending back towards the light. It is healing fine, others here are talking about twisting until you feel a crack between your fingers. Different technique to increase uptake but doesn’t help with height and training, etc. Don’t move the branch now it had set, you will damage it on the bend. The split is ok, it is healing but you can place tape over the top of it as protection if you like. Don’t move the branch up and down, just leave alone.
 
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TheOriginalKryptonite

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Star Dog said:
I wouldn't have any concerns but for future reference you can twist the stem back and fourth between your fingers and soften it so it doesn't knuckle or crease/fold.
Twist back and fourth you'll feel it twisting a little more each twist then you might but not always feel a slight crack, that's apparently the hurd snapping wtf that is I don't know however the twisting works 100% in preventing stem wounds.
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Star Dog knows the score, you can soften the branch between finger and thumb before bending, especially when the branches want to snap easily.
 
Horselover fat

Horselover fat

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TheOriginalKryptonite said:
others here are talking about twisting until you feel a crack between your fingers. Different technique to increase uptake but doesn’t help with height and training, etc.
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Of course it helps. The support is broken and you can set a new angle. Make it stay there for a few days and it heals to that new angle. Look up a few posts for an example.
 
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Horselover fat said:
Of course it helps. The support is broken and you can set a new angle. Make it stay there for a few days and it heals to that new angle. Look up a few posts for an example.
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Yes your right, I misread what star dog said originally and that’s why I posted again referring to what he said was on point. I was referring to just twisting the branch until a crack is felt but not bending ofterwards. Some do this just to build knuckles with the concept that it increases uptake.
 
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TheOriginalKryptonite said:
Yes your right, I misread what star dog said originally and that’s why I posted again referring to what he said was on point. I was referring to just twisting the branch until a crack is felt but not bending ofterwards. Some do this just to build knuckles with the concept that it increases uptake.
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I don't know if it really increases nute uptake, but those knuckles sure become tough.
 
Weouthere

Weouthere

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Thanks for all the help guys! I’ll keep an eye on it but it seems to be doing good. I used that plant as a practice for future runs, I don’t like having all the strings and stakes in my pots. I did do a couple branches correctly, the main stem like it is, and over did one and broke it (the taped one). It’s really cool to watch them recover from this.

If it’s out of place, no need to answer. But I noticed some yellowing in between the leaf veins on a couple plants. This happened to me on my last grow as well. Im thinking a couple treatments of Epsom salts. Any advice?
 

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@TheOriginalKryptonite hi there i could be well of the mark I'll gladly stand corrected but I think the uptake is only relevant to the output, i think what passes up the stem passes out of the leaves less the nutrient?
Basically I see it as a capillary system.

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TheOriginalKryptonite

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Star Dog said:
@TheOriginalKryptonite hi there i could be well of the mark I'll gladly stand corrected but I think the uptake is only relevant to the output, i think what passes up the stem passes out of the leaves less the nutrient?
Basically I see it as a capillary system.

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Star Dog said:
@TheOriginalKryptonite hi there i could be well of the mark I'll gladly stand corrected but I think the uptake is only relevant to the output, i think what passes up the stem passes out of the leaves less the nutrient?
Basically I see it as a capillary system.


Transpiration is the word. I haven’t personally noticed any advantages in real life, but there’s literature that states it enables better uptake. To be fair bending plants so early is pointless, even if training larger growing plants. Someone will give me a dig for that comment no doubt. Should bend after a couple of weeks of flowering, absolutely no longer than three. I guarantee the chaps plant stems will have almost totally straightened as though it was never bent, within say 3weeks, where it’s done so early and no benefit whatsoever. Better topping plants if the aim is to achieve bushier plants in veg. Plus who wants to veg plants for ages anyway, never understood the economics.
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