Organic Vs. Synthetic Nutrients

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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    Lol :-)
     
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    Stink Bug

    Stink Bug Well-Known Member

    What does Azomite have to do with either? i am just trying to understand where you are coming from.
     
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    Stink Bug

    Stink Bug Well-Known Member

    Yeah you murderer!:clap: Cannabis forums can be confusing!

     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    Ya I guess I got lucky, I haven't had a gnat in 5 years and when I ran soil I had em lots. Fucking things, I tried everything but to no avail. I use hydroton and root riot cubes buried under the rocks. Fuck I hope I never get em again :(.
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    If you post a pic it will most assuredly be diagnosed as a calmag and PH issue lol.
     
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    Chip Green

    Chip Green Well-Known Member

    The dreaded "calmag" deficiency........hehe!!!
    CalMag is the Childrens Tylenol of the plant kingdom....works for ANY symptom, without really doing much of anything. Unless you really need some.
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    No man! It’s the next bottle over on the shelf. Super Praseodymium Mag. Monsanto made it specifically for cannabis.

    Cal Mag. Sheesh. Get with the program!
     
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    Stink Bug

    Stink Bug Well-Known Member

    Don't forget about culling the herd. Coco based mix. Container growing?
     
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    Johnny Lawrence

    Johnny Lawrence Well-Known Member

    I'm so lost.
     
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    Stink Bug

    Stink Bug Well-Known Member

    Sorry Johnny, I tried to upload a picture for my above post. Maybe I should have just swept the leg? lol
     
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    Stink Bug

    Stink Bug Well-Known Member

    Light leaks and all...
     

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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member


    Nice reply.
    Some are that way (organic bottled nutrients). Some are the way I say too. Unless you know what is actually in the bottle. It can be a crap shoot...

    Now on the second part. I got opinions too.

    I respect your opinion on that, and have heard that one before in/at other places/times.

    I disagree though. I have had, hands down, the most potent and most flavorful/smelling product......From soil grows. Out door soil grows. Properly maintained and finished/harvested right. Have always been the most potent strains I've ever smoked. You can not reproduce the terp profiles in hydro, created by soil growing......This point is on the front burner for those wanting to do that, by research being done today.....I feel that, is a long way out yet.

    Part of why I do a few outdoor "gorilla" plants (in containers - they move about easy and move inside at cold nights in the fall - then back out for the sun day time. Easy way to finish them properly in our northern climate). Deeper buzz profile with, more umph, if you know what I mean.

    While it's NOT that way anymore. It was at one time and in many disp in Cali, that they would not buy anything but outdoor produced.

    Now I will agree that if your into growing hydro. You can sure as hell know exactly what your feeding. As far as purity goes. Your only limited by just exactly "what" is in the compounds you use to grow with.
    Sourcing is the issue, and metal content, etc is source defined. Before chelation. But you know that too.

    Peace on.
     
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    I really don't see why it has to be black and white.
    Semi-organic gives me the best results, indoors AND outdoors -- but the techniques are VERY different.
    I load the soil with organic goodness (compost, castings, etc) for the outdoor grow and tweak with synthetics, top dressing and nute teas. (Gotta use a biological to control fungus gnats.)
    Indoors, the soil is barren. All nutrients must be soluble because I don't want bits of decaying shit to attract bugs.
    Majority of NPK comes from synthetics. I also use organic nutrient tea that's filtered to remove solids.
     
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    That reminds me... it's time to make a new batch of alfalfa tea.
    I wonder if using hot water would speed up the process???
    Instead of letting it steep 24 hrs in tap water, maybe just 1 hour if I start with boiling water?
    Hmm...
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    The Growers, families and friends of the old multigenerational outdoor grows where I live in the farmland and woods continually comment on the better flavor and obviously better potency of my indoor.


    Sometimes I disagree and like the flavor of some of the outdoor better. But the potency usually falls short.

    I think the real sunlight adds something and the lack of environmental stability takes something away.

    Of course I am talking about Michigan not California. But indoor there is more control of environment and that is the main factor. Not the nutrients.

    I hope to do a few containers outside next season to compare myself. At least some familiar seed plants.

    I keep dreaming about building a clear topped envirenmentally and light supplemented light deep shed.

    And then I get my extra rooms in my house back for actual living space.
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    All the best gardeners from regular flower gardening I have read from use a hybrid method to be sure of nutrient availability.

    I haven’t but should look into orchid competition Growers.
     
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    Bugeye

    Bugeye Well-Known Member

    I think the sunlight has more to do with great pot than the dirt. UVB.

    I like my organic dirt but I have no problem doing a water soluble foliar spray of synthetic nutes if I get behind on feeding my soil. Maybe I'd feel differently if I had to slap a label on my product.
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    They are trying to prove uva influences the terpenes and flavonoids.

    The uvb outside should and does influence potency but environment obviously has more effect in my opinion.
     
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    9DRAGONS

    9DRAGONS Member

    are people using uvb a lot now in grow areas, what the larger uvb bulb in watts?
     
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    Bugeye

    Bugeye Well-Known Member

    I can't disagree with what you said. But all else equal, sunshine beats artificial lights for the type of high I prefer.
     
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