ORGANIC OR MINERAL FERTILIZER?

$bkbbudz$

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Should i use organic or mineral fertilizer for my one month old plant? Whats the difference?
This is a trick question...

The reason I say that is you have given no details about your grow at all except to say that it is 1 month old...What medium are you using?, what additives are in it? what product(s) are you considering?, have you fed at all yet?

And pics are ALWAYS appreciated.
 

greasemonkeymann

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Should i use organic or mineral fertilizer for my one month old plant? Whats the difference?
sort of an odd question, it'd be easier to answer if you were asking the difference between organic and salt based nutrients.
minerals are needed for organic grows also.
typically a month old plant won't need a bunch of food unless it's growing in an inert media
 

vostok

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Should i use organic or mineral fertilizer for my one month old plant? Whats the difference?
maybe: ' should I use organic(natural) fertilizers or cheap but just as effective artificial ferts...?'

as this is in the newbie, I recommend applying ur first application of cheap artificial salts

just use half of what everyone advises

once this first grow is done,,

then you can decide for yourself

next grow consider starting from a natural organic mix

like Fox Farm Ocean Forest with 25% perlite

good luck
 

greasemonkeymann

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I heard that for plant using mineral fertilizer is not as healthy as organic. Is that true?
again, you need to word that differently, and that's a HUGE can-o-worms there.
always will be a "organic vs chemicals" argument
I don't like chemicals for a myriad of reasons, I could go on forever, but it's similar to anything else, it's my preference. I'd never tell someone what type of food they like, or what type of women they like, that's allllll on YOU.
grow both, make a decision.
But if you do both, you'll probably go with organics. Most that try both, do.
 

vostok

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one is cheap and artificial the other natural

but not just natural but more akin to their method of root absorption

members have claimed everything from sparking joints

to electrical discharges on their teeth toking artificial feed weed

so I'm happy to smoke my pig shit sprayed weed any day ....lol
 

ganga gurl420

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one is cheap and artificial the other natural

but not just natural but more akin to their method of root absorption

members have claimed everything from sparking joints

to electrical discharges on their teeth toking artificial feed weed

so I'm happy to smoke my pig shit sprayed weed any day ....lol
pig shit...hmmm bet that works great!!! Using a cow/horse/chicken thing this year myself. But yeah k bet pig is just loaded!
 

MeJuana

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Organic soil needs to be mixed together and allowed to sit for awhile to compost a little. You need bacteria to form and start turning the organic materials into food. Many people think you can add beneficial bacteria to your mix and you are good to go, however, time and again my most demanding strain is falling short of making it through flower. Although I admit my easy to grow strains make it just fine using that method. I made the mistake of thinking I could research organic soil on the forums but eventually I had to start hitting books which is where I am at now. I will recommend a book "Teaming with Microbes" and you can search that book right here on riu to hear others talk about it.

Short answer. Use inert soil and synthetic fertilizers for now and make sure you have a way to flush the plants. i.e. build a rack and reservoir if you don't have a sink or equivalent to use.
 

vostok

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Just last week dumped half a ton? of fresh pig poo onto the back of my 2 week of brand new SUV pickup

it should last me years, but the real question,

is why not use the old truck or even the trailer

I said to myself(shit..pun!) I'm passing anyway it will save me much gas and time

yeah pull in..I said "Its about time I really committed to this goddamn method"

so now I have ......lol

good luck

ps even washed the truck 3 times, it still stinks like fuck

ABSOLUTE HEAVEN ...lol
 

vostok

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Organic soil needs to be mixed together and allowed to sit for awhile to compost a little. You need bacteria to form and start turning the organic materials into food. Many people think you can add beneficial bacteria to your mix and you are good to go, however, time and again my most demanding strain is falling short of making it through flower. Although I admit my easy to grow strains make it just fine using that method. I made the mistake of thinking I could research organic soil on the forums but eventually I had to start hitting books which is where I am at now. I will recommend a book "Teaming with Microbes" and you can search that book right here on riu to hear others talk about it.

Short answer. Use inert soil and synthetic fertilizers for now and make sure you have a way to flush the plants. i.e. build a rack and reservoir if you don't have a sink or equivalent to use.
up on my mediafire account, right click ...save as

http://www.mediafire.com/download/jfedz248aj9jtk8/Teaming_With_Microbes.pdf

http://www.mediafire.com/download/kfg66s1m8m426jw/Teaming_with_Nutrients.pdf


flick it around, let RIU be Organics at heart ...cheers
 
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ganga gurl420

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[QUO shiTE="vostok, post: 12588531, member: 782805"]Just last week dumped half a ton? of fresh pig poo onto the back of my 2 week of brand new SUV pickup

it should last me years, but the real question,

is why not use the old truck or even the trailer

I said to myself(shit..pun!) I'm passing anyway it will save me much gas and time

yeah pull in..I said "Its about time I really committed to this goddamn method"

so now I have ......lol

good luck

ps even washed the truck 3 times, it still stinks like fuck

ABSOLUTE HEAVEN ...lol[/QUOTE]
Oh sooo u got the freah stuff huh??? Right on! Just moved 800 gallons of my "shit" to my holes today and still have sooo much left to do! Composted nicely for 4 yrs...its amaZing shit! 3000 gallons worth lol
 

Afriski hudogriz

Active Member
Organic soil needs to be mixed together and allowed to sit for awhile to compost a little. You need bacteria to form and start turning the organic materials into food. Many people think you can add beneficial bacteria to your mix and you are good to go, however, time and again my most demanding strain is falling short of making it through flower. Although I admit my easy to grow strains make it just fine using that method. I made the mistake of thinking I could research organic soil on the forums but eventually I had to start hitting books which is where I am at now. I will recommend a book "Teaming with Microbes" and you can search that book right here on riu to hear others talk about it.

Short answer. Use inert soil and synthetic fertilizers for now and make sure you have a way to flush the plants. i.e. build a rack and reservoir if you don't have a sink or equivalent to use.
What do u mean by inert soil and synthetic fertilizer? Thanks (:
 

ganga gurl420

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i was thinking about using chicken shit too. We have chickens but im not sure how to make shit into a fertilizer. Can you help me out? (:
It depends on how fresh poo is. Fresh chicken shit is very hot on the nitrogen side (keep that in mind or u will burn your plant). You can use fresher chicken shit though in a VERY THIN top dressing.
However it is better to compost it. Throw it in a pile and let it age.
You want to turn your pile often for proper break down.
Once it is aged and not hot anymore you can mix it right into your organic soil too. Just remember a little chicken poo goes a long way!
 

Afriski hudogriz

Active Member
It depends on how fresh poo is. Fresh chicken shit is very hot on the nitrogen side (keep that in mind or u will burn your plant). You can use fresher chicken shit though in a VERY THIN top dressing.
However it is better to compost it. Throw it in a pile and let it age.
You want to turn your pile often for proper break down.
Once it is aged and not hot anymore you can mix it right into your organic soil too. Just remember a little chicken poo goes a long way!
How long should i leave it on a pile of compost? (:
 

ganga gurl420

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How long should i leave it on a pile of compost? (:
Any manure should be left for at least one year...tho two or more is better unless your adding a little to the top of your soil like I said.
Rule of thumb is when thr poo stops smelling like poo... its broken down enough then to use.
I would google it if I were you so you know more about it.
 
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