Organic no till, probiotic, knf, jadam, vermicomposting, soil mixes, sips etc... Q & A

hyroot said:

I was going to make a tutorial video but experimenting withh othe recipes first. Here is the recipe I started with.

citrus ferment recipe

2 cups of citrus peels
1/2 cup of brown sugar
1 tsp dry yeast
4 cups of clean water

ferment in a sealed container with an airlock for 2 1/2 weeks then strain. Add 1 cup of apple cider vinegar.

use 3 oz per gallon of water and only spray at night. It will burn plants during the day.

I'm currently testing out 2 other recipes. One without water and more sugar. water reduces osmostic pressure when using sugar. Another using labs and water like the flower power

Labs breaks down organic material. Sugar relies on osmotic pressure to pull juices from fruits and plants.



I only use alfalfa meal in veg tea's and I feed it to the worms. They love it. Yes when it was in my soil mix it did promote more leaf. Too much N from the alfalfa attracts pests and changes flavor.. I do not know what you mean by TRIA



Neem oil is cold-pressed from kernels of fruit from the Azadirachta indica tree.The cake is made from the Neem tree seed residue . Karanja oil is cold-pressed from seeds of the Pongam tree. Karanja Cake is the residue obtained from Karanja seed kernels which have been crushed to extract the oil. Neem has Azadiractin and Karanja does not. Both are pest inhibitors. Both rich in npk and other minerals and elements



I have done more kelp with plants that are potassium hogs. No ill effects




Gypsum seems to work better than oyster shell flour for cal mag and it has sulfur. My blueberries outside love gypsum. Most rock dust is essentially volcanic rock dust excluding glacial. Basalt made buds denser and increased brix levels quite a bit. It's soluble and works almost intsantly. The bentonite rock dust seem to clump up and it takes a while to break down.

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projectinfo said:

Hey how did your citrus labs ferment turn out?

Im going to use your original recipe.

Might expiriment and throw some feels in some labs. Its just fpe right?

Im looking to use it as an ipm

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hyroot said:

I made a new batch of wcap. I didn't pulverize the bones this time. After it was done fermenting I filtered it through 4 layers of natural chemex coffee filters 3 times. Then i pulverized left over bones and added them to the worm bins.

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projectinfo said:

Mustang was saying wcap is no good, the high phosphorus will lead to low brix levels . What do you think buddy?

Also im still making it fuckit

Can i use apple cider vinigar instead of brown rice vinigar?

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projectinfo said:

Mustang was saying wcap is no good, the high phosphorus will lead to low brix levels . What do you think buddy?

Also im still making it fuckit

Can i use apple cider vinigar instead of brown rice vinigar?

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MustangStudFarm said:

I just wanted to make sure that you knew what you were doing. I don't ever claim to be an expert. Being used as a foliar wouldn't lock-out nutrients in the soil. That is where the low brix comes from, locking out micronutrients. I don't understand the product called "Mammoth P" either. I'm just leary of using P inputs. I'm here to learn above all else, so I don't mind being corrected.

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hyroot said:

Mammoth p just solubilizes phos making it available for uptake. Since phos in soil and bottle nutes doesn't completely break down or isn t readily available. They say its 4 specific microbes cultured in alflafa. I know a former employee of mammoth microbes who says its just an alfalfa tea...

You can make.your own phos solubilizing bacterial compost or castings by composting the left over charred bones after straining the wcap.

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hyroot said:

I read that. He didn't seem to understand that it's for foliar only and used at the last 2 weeks of veg and first 2 weeks of flower only. He kept talking about watering the soil with it. I wouldn't ever water soil with wcap being that it's acetic. Also were only using 1 tbsp per gallon. It's also soluble phos. Wcap stands for water soluble calcium phophate

I have an ogkb in veg that was showing phos def. After 2 foliar applications the phos deficiency was remedied.

Yes you can use apple cider vinegar. You can also use white vinegar. I used white vinegar for this last wcap ferment.

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hyroot said:

They're thrips.


Beauveria bassiana will systemically wipe them out for good.

Swiirski mites will eat the thrips and eggs.

The citrus ferment foliar will kill them on the plant on contact


Protease enzymes will kill them in the soil.

Nematodes will kill them in the soil.

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projectinfo said:

Those protease enzymes Their just weightloss pills ?

You just gind em up , water them in?

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Polyuro said:

Hello all, just received sip boxes, bu's Malibu compost, "peat" based potting soil(emailed supplier to be exact), em1, bokashi and dolomite. I want to starta cooking but the mix seems lacking more goodness after reading this thread. Any suggestions?

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