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ktmac20

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And there is hope for some of my rougher o_O looking clones! :clap: I am going to pick the best 2 of each strain put em in 5 gallon fabric pots, probably veg for about 30 days. I don't want em too big in my tent.

I am switching from T-5 to HPS this evening. I hate to "dispose" of my extra clones!

Cheers
 

Humanrob

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And there is hope for some of my rougher o_O looking clones! :clap: I am going to pick the best 2 of each strain put em in 5 gallon fabric pots, probably veg for about 30 days. I don't want em too big in my tent.

I am switching from T-5 to HPS this evening. I hate to "dispose" of my extra clones!

Cheers
I'm jealous of your indoor setup! I have to run AC during most of the winter with around 800-1000w of COB lights going, if I were to run even a 600w HPS in July I think I'd burn the garage down! Even when I pull this pair in say late September/early October, I'll probably need to switch them to lights on at night and I'll probably only have them under about 500w of COBs (depending on their footprint at the time, maybe more...).

Switching them to 12/12 at night is an odd thing to do during their last week or three, but it'll be what it is. If it turns out they have worms I'll trash them, I've had wormy plants that I brought indoors before and it's bad. So these are a real wild card for me, I'm trying not to get too attached to them. Just another example of me not being able to say 'no' to free plants... :roll:
 

ktmac20

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Well I run my 600W HPS at night 6pm to 12noon now so it is off during the hottest part of the day! Just switched it out we will see how the clones adjust! They were under 24 hr T-5's until today!

What would you all recommend as the safest distance from plant tops to bottom of light fixture?

Cheers
 
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slow drawl

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Looking great! I used to take clones of everything, I loved making one plant into many. I guess with legalization and the abundance of available seeds and clones, we started to drift towards variety over efficiency.

In an unexpected turn of events I was given a pair of J1's (my only photos this summer), and thinking they had been hardened I put them right out and they immediately got burned. I wasn't sure what was going to come of them, so I put them in #7 (sort of like a true 5 gallon?) fabric pots, and fed and watered them. They seem to be doing OK. Unless we get an uncharacteristically super dry fall, I expect I'll drag them inside and finish them under lights.

The first pic is June 16th, the second is from this morning. I hope they don't get too big, I sometimes find it difficult to keep a plant properly fed when it's too big for its pot.

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Looks good HR, that J1 is a nice upbeat strain. What's the early flower I see in the background?
 

Humanrob

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Looks good HR, that J1 is a nice upbeat strain. What's the early flower I see in the background?
Good eye slow drawl! Other than the two J1's, everything else this year is an experiment in autos, which will all finish before the rains come. So far they are flowering roughly in two waves, the earliest came down mid-July and the rest of that group will be down by mid-August. The one you can see in the background is a huge (for an auto) Blueberry, part of the second group, which will probably finish around the first week in September. It's about 5.5' tall, almost twice the size of the next biggest auto I have going.

I guess all autos are ruderalis & sativa/indica hybrids, so they vary in how much the ruderalis (auto) traits show up. There seems to be some more photo-leaning strains in the hybrid mix -- they are not as fast as the quickest autos to finish, but they are significantly bigger and produce much more. That does not mean they have more THC, those characteristics seem to be separate genes, I've seen very small very potent autos as well.

Auto breeding is still evolving, and in my very limited experience they have not stabilized yet. The Blueberry I grew last summer out of the same bag of seeds was 1/3 the size of this one, so while this big one is in the range of a 'normal anomaly' its nothing you can plan on. It actually caused me some problems because it shaded out several plants that were planted (what turned out to be) too close to it.

I've read a lot of people say that autos are great for beginners because you don't have to worry about light cycles, but I think they actually require more care. Since they are on (for the most part) a pre-defined growth period, anything that interrupts that will impact their overall potential. An example is the very cold wet spring we had. There was a warm week, I put them all out, and then we had about 3 weeks of cold overcast weather -- the impact varied between strains but some were irrevocably stunted, they simply lost several weeks of critical veg growth time that could not be made up for later. Additionally, I don't spray after flowers start showing up and even though many of my plants stopped getting bigger during that cold spell, they still matured anyway. The net result was that I was not able to spray them for worms, and most of them got hit pretty badly.

After this season, I'm probably going to take a break from outdoor grows unless I can build a true greenhouse. I think I'd keep experimenting with the latest autos, but they'd be behind screens and out of the reach of moths.

LOL... hope that wasn't too long an answer, I tend to ramble while I'm drinking my morning coffee... :)
 

briteleaf

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In Portland, OR and only grow autos now. Growing autos: AK49 GSC, Berry Bomb Auto, Original Berry Auto and Haze XL. I grow 'em outside in large pots. I like the Girl Scout Cookies but they have been so jumpy in phenotypes. Same seeds from same producer and both blooming like crazy but one is 4' tall and one is 5 inches tall. The others are all huge and dependable. The Haze XL from Dinafem are huge. Think I might try some of the other XL Autos from Dinafem. The autos provide plenty of high quality bud and will all be harvested before August is over and the dreaded bud rot. I don't use any chemical fertilizers, pesticides or fungicides and they thrive in organic compost. I'm always on the lookout for experienced advice on outdoor auto seeds.

Those are some beauties you have there.
 
Can an experienced outdoor Oregon grower, share some experience with a newer grower. I have plants started from seed indoors in feb, moved outside in March when it got warmer, they are just regular seeds (not autos) but when do the plants enter flower? I have many many preflowers, and actually back in early July they started flowering but reverted back... idk maybe we had a couple days of shorter light or maybe I just had too much shade... anyways they went back to veg within a week and a half, and then they sky rocketed up. 5ft tall when they started flowering and then within that week and a half went to 6.5 feet, now they’re sitting steady at 7ft... but, I was just curious when they would actually start flowering for real this time, and if maybe i should buy a tarp and cover them for the 12-12.... this is my first pure outdoor grow and any advice from my Oregonian friends would be much appreciated!! Thanks!
 

BlazinDucks

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Can an experienced outdoor Oregon grower, share some experience with a newer grower. I have plants started from seed indoors in feb, moved outside in March when it got warmer, they are just regular seeds (not autos) but when do the plants enter flower? I have many many preflowers, and actually back in early July they started flowering but reverted back... idk maybe we had a couple days of shorter light or maybe I just had too much shade... anyways they went back to veg within a week and a half, and then they sky rocketed up. 5ft tall when they started flowering and then within that week and a half went to 6.5 feet, now they’re sitting steady at 7ft... but, I was just curious when they would actually start flowering for real this time, and if maybe i should buy a tarp and cover them for the 12-12.... this is my first pure outdoor grow and any advice from my Oregonian friends would be much appreciated!! Thanks!
Mine don't start flowering until August in Portland. They shouldn't go outside any earlier than May. Otherwise you end up struggling like you are now.
 

ktmac20

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I'm with Blazin' I learned two years ago to start like May 1st if you want trees or June first if you want bushes. I started my clones outside June 1 and they basically vegged for a month and a half. They have started their stretch a little early this year about a week and a half ago. So they should start flowering here first week in August or so for a Croptober harvest!

You can see my pics of em on page 5...Nice sized bushes if you ask me!

Sounds like yours have started to stretch too if they went from 5 foot to 7 foot they are likely to start flowering here in a couple weeks now! You are just gonna have a serious trees and lots of flower!

Have fun with your harvest!

Cheers
 

ktmac20

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All right all...here is my final in my tent...

I just couldn't bring myself to dispose of.ALL my clones so I potted 2 Blueberry and 2 Cannatonic in 2 gallon pots for a buddy. Kind of an experiment too to see how they do as compared to mine in 5 gallon air pots.

The Blueberry girls are hardly and thriving! My Cannatonic are doing well too. The Cannatonic I just potted are a little weak. Hopefully they will recoup and thrive!
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tef162

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Nice Tef! When did you start them? Looking great!
Thanks! I started the seeds around the middle of May. They have been outside since the middle of June. I am curious now the NL turns out. My wife got the seeds from the head grower at the farm she worked at last year. He said that those are 89 Northern Lights Noof x Northern Lights. I had also started a Black Afghani Rose that we got from him, but that one was a male and had to get chopped.
 
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