Oregon Outdoor, 2021

xtsho said:

Some sativa's stretch more than others but yeah they can get tall. I'm going to do some training to try and keep it as short as possible. I've been through this before. It's a hassle bringing a plant inside to finish under light but the payoff is worth it. I'm thinking when the time comes this Ethiopian will fill my 4x4 tent.

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Good call. A few Indicas get hella tall, but nothing like those sativa lovlies. These f1's I'm growing now get up 13 -14 feet easily. Even within a couple months of planting purposely much later (mid July). So they don't over grow the high fence.

Yeah including the stretch phase 14 easy. They have skunk sativa persuasion, sea-of-purple kush x sweet skunk precisely . The stronger on the skunk phenos get pretty unruly. Indoors I have a feeling the taller tent will pay off. I got the tallest 4x4 I could find. Some off size I think its 86".

I'm not going through another late delayed flowering cycle and immature bud due to late in July planting of seedlings. Clones are fine, they flower right on the clock mid August. I can set my watch by them. This time my seedlings went out as early as possible. To ell with it if they get ginormous, and grow higher than the fences lol.

Humanrob said:

I guess I'll start the Oregon thread this year, look forward to hearing from Oregonians on their outdoor grows. So far, I hope we get some more rain! Otherwise this could be a bad fire season, and obviously that's bad for far more than just the plants in our gardens.

My grow is evolving a bit this year, I built what could be called a "high tunnel" or "rigid hoophouse", because it's not fully enclosed and so I don't think it would fit the definition of a Greenhouse. Primary purposes are to hang bug netting on to keep the worms away, and to keep any late season rain off. New structures and methods always have a learning curve, so we'll see how this goes.

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Be careful with that greenhouse. The lumber is prob going to be worth more than your grow this summer so Id be concerned about someone walking away with my lumber over my flower lol. Very nice build!

Lifer99 said:

Be careful with that greenhouse. The lumber is prob going to be worth more than your grow this summer so Id be concerned about someone walking away with my lumber over my flower lol. Very nice build!

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Thanks for that. I got lucky and built this from last years lumber at last year's prices, if I were starting now there's no way I would have taken on that project. If I were building it now, I would just take the cattle panels and make a simple tall tunnel out of those held in place with steel fence posts. I live in a place with very windy winters, so any structure I intend to have stand year-round needs to be able to withstand 45mph wind gusts, and 30mph sustained winds. I'm hoping this one will stay upright for a while.

The wood poachers are always at it. 100 year old cedar trees are disappearing in B.C Canada to name one place.

Looking for a little guidance here. Ive run into an issue with one of my tent plants. I know it's not outdoors, but this is my normal home. Out of all my plants both indoor and out I have one that's gone south over the past week or so. Everything I can see shows a deficiency or heat burn. Looks like it's lacking in zinc, but none of my other plants are having issues. They're all in FFOF. I picked up a bottle of advanced nutrients micro a couple days ago and gave it a half dose at 6.4 ph. I moved my lights up in the tent a foot higher. The other plant in the tent looks perfect. So either it handles the heat better, or there's something else going on. It's been super hot the past 2-3 days. The tent has stayed 90+ for the most part. Ive been opening it up as much as I can. The intake runs the first 15 minutes of every hour, but it's pulling in warm garage air. Not sure what to do, I intended on kicking them into flower in the next week.

BlazinDucks said:

Looking for a little guidance here. Ive run into an issue with one of my tent plants. I know it's not outdoors, but this is my normal home. Out of all my plants both indoor and out I have one that's gone south over the past week or so. Everything I can see shows a deficiency or heat burn. Looks like it's lacking in zinc, but none of my other plants are having issues. They're all in FFOF. I picked up a bottle of advanced nutrients micro a couple days ago and gave it a half dose at 6.4 ph. I moved my lights up in the tent a foot higher. The other plant in the tent looks perfect. So either it handles the heat better, or there's something else going on. It's been super hot the past 2-3 days. The tent has stayed 90+ for the most part. Ive been opening it up as much as I can. The intake runs the first 15 minutes of every hour, but it's pulling in warm garage air. Not sure what to do, I intended on kicking them into flower in the next week. View attachment 4915880View attachment 4915881View attachment 4915882

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How close was the light, and how powerful is it?

The fox farm OF should last a good ways, about half way into flowering with an even larger plant than that. For instance also in a 5 gal pot (minimum).

A deficiency wouldnt jump out at me first, or be so obvious yet as far as I know. If it was nutrient related I would suspect nutrient burn before a deficiency of some kind. Also factoring in the soil.

I'm kind of leaning towards light burn if I were to guess.

The last thing I would recommend doing is throwing ferts at it. Personally I wouldn't add fertilizers of any sort until I at least got to the bottom of the circumstance. I would hold back on that $0.02.

Even if the plant appeared in great health the FFOF should keep them happy a while if it was fresh (and the pot sz. is adequate)

Tomato props. Toms won't be much help with camouflage this time, but its OK. This gardener requires snacks when I'm out there

xtsho said:

I'm also not entirely sure of what structure I want to build so taking the extra time to look and think about options won't hurt. I hate it when I jump into something without thinking everything through completely and then wish I had done things differently but it's too late.

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As I've gotten older, it seems my ability to visualize a project completely and preemptively predict issues has diminished. As I mentioned, with this project I was focused on the structure being strong enough to survive "wind events" that we get, but of all things, ended out misjudging the trajectory of the sun. Since I'm growing autos that finish in August, I felt sure the sun would primarily be overhead mid-day and underestimated the southern angle. I guess I've always "eye-balled" it, and never actually measured against the shadow a 2x4 would present. A lot of wood, metal, and plastic later, and I have a very sturdy 8x8 structure that is only about 2/3's useable. If it were 25' or 50' long, losing the southern most 3' would not be a huge loss, but at 8' it's significant.

So, I would say, yes, take some time, think about your options. Know your environment. Visualize outcomes.

shrubz said:

How close was the light, and how powerful is it?

The fox farm OF should last a good ways, about half way into flowering with an even larger plant than that. For instance also in a 5 gal pot (minimum).

A deficiency wouldnt jump out at me first, or be so obvious yet as far as I know. If it was nutrient related I would suspect nutrient burn before a deficiency of some kind. Also factoring in the soil.

I'm kind of leaning towards light burn if I were to guess.

The last thing I would recommend doing is throwing ferts at it. Personally I wouldn't add fertilizers of any sort until I at least got to the bottom of the circumstance. I would hold back on that $0.02.

Even if the plant appeared in great health the FFOF should keep them happy a while if it was fresh (and the pot sz. is adequate)

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Yeah, my initial thought was nutrient issues, but the more I thought about it the more I was thinking it was from the lights. Ive had the lights about 1-1.5' away for the majority of the time. It was no problem until about a week ago and it started degrading quickly. I've since risen the lights. I'm running t5s that are right around 350 watts combined. I've rarely run into troubles through all my grow seasons, but this is my first with having some indoors. Thanks for your input.

Some plants take things better than others. Some more fert tolerant, or handle diverse and extreme weather conditions/ heat and sun intensity better, some are more resistant to pathogens and bugs. Some plants deal with anything while others can be quite temperamental with each or everything.

Remember the old halide lights? And HPS. People would hold the upper side of their hand under those to check for the sweet spot of a safe distance. If it feels to hot on the hand its going to be too much for the plant also.

Since LCDs don't accumulate as much heat as those bulbs would it be a bad way too gauge light distance?. Is there a way to test LCD or just better to follow the guide for the light? Thats what I have done this far. Mixed in a bit of discretion.

I just took delivery of my 4 plants yesterday, Thank you to @Humanrob for popping the seeds and baby sitting them into the fine young plants they are today, very good work my Friend, its awesome getting to see you and be a growing buddy here in Oregon,,,
The four plants are all Autos , in the first picture you can see the layout of the grow, Cinderella Jack from Dutch Passion on the far left, in the middle we have Alien V Triangle from Ked Hevo , on the back right is Green CRacK from Fast Buds, and in the front right is Double Grape from Mephisto,, Thank you for the killer Line up @Humanrob , I dug deep holes bigger than 5 gallon pots, more like 7 or eight, each hole almost held a full bag of soil , I have bunch of partial bags laying around from previous indoor grows, I filled in the holes with the bag soils and planted them right in mother earth,
Let the Fun Begin,,,
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Tim Fox said:

I just took delivery of my 4 plants yesterday, Thank you to @Humanrob for popping the seeds and baby sitting them into the fine young plants they are today, very good work my Friend, its awesome getting to see you and be a growing buddy here in Oregon,,,
The four plants are all Autos , in the first picture you can see the layout of the grow, Cinderella Jack from Dutch Passion on the far left, in the middle we have Alien V Triangle from Ked Hevo , on the back right is Green CRacK from Fast Buds, and in the front right is Double Grape from Mephisto,, Thank you for the killer Line up @Humanrob , I dug deep holes bigger than 5 gallon pots, more like 7 or eight, each hole almost held a full bag of soil , I have bunch of partial bags laying around from previous indoor grows, I filled in the holes with the bag soils and planted them right in mother earth,
Let the Fun Begin,,,
Pics

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My pleasure... and it must be my bad handwriting on the tags, to be sure the Alien v Triangle is a Mephisto strain...

Humanrob said:

My pleasure... and it must be my bad handwriting on the tags, to be sure the Alien v Triangle is a Mephisto strain...

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Yes haha my wife miss read the tag

Tim Fox said:

I just took delivery of my 4 plants yesterday, Thank you to @Humanrob for popping the seeds and baby sitting them into the fine young plants they are today, very good work my Friend, its awesome getting to see you and be a growing buddy here in Oregon,,,
The four plants are all Autos , in the first picture you can see the layout of the grow, Cinderella Jack from Dutch Passion on the far left, in the middle we have Alien V Triangle from Ked Hevo , on the back right is Green CRacK from Fast Buds, and in the front right is Double Grape from Mephisto,, Thank you for the killer Line up @Humanrob , I dug deep holes bigger than 5 gallon pots, more like 7 or eight, each hole almost held a full bag of soil , I have bunch of partial bags laying around from previous indoor grows, I filled in the holes with the bag soils and planted them right in mother earth,
Let the Fun Begin,,,
Pics

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If you aren't aware (but probably are) monitor drainage. On a gorilla venture we plugged plants in holes and left the native soil around it as is. The drainage was so poor the plants died.

This was may 7th inside the cups. I thought they were vegging for a couple weeks longer. The seedlings look to be more on track in terms of time now.

I'm already a little suspect of the tallest lankier couple plants of being male (2nd picture) . Male species crept in three separate times on three separate occasions in the past. I was right all three other occasions. The least branchiest / tallest plants with these skunk genes turned out to be males, and got the axe.

My undies aren't in a bunch, knowing that isn't a very accurate method. And only time will tell, like it always does.

Artsy droopy rainy /music & picture

@ a solid sure 5 weeks. Do they look ready to donate? I'm in a bit of a time constraint. Would of liked to plug some clones in before May closed. Better late then never eh.

Humanrob said:

As I've gotten older, it seems my ability to visualize a project completely and preemptively predict issues has diminished. As I mentioned, with this project I was focused on the structure being strong enough to survive "wind events" that we get, but of all things, ended out misjudging the trajectory of the sun. Since I'm growing autos that finish in August, I felt sure the sun would primarily be overhead mid-day and underestimated the southern angle. I guess I've always "eye-balled" it, and never actually measured against the shadow a 2x4 would present. A lot of wood, metal, and plastic later, and I have a very sturdy 8x8 structure that is only about 2/3's useable. If it were 25' or 50' long, losing the southern most 3' would not be a huge loss, but at 8' it's significant.

So, I would say, yes, take some time, think about your options. Know your environment. Visualize outcomes.

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Good post. I guess it depends but its almost never fun getting caught with your pants down so to speak. Its defo not fun late in a grow. Being un prepared for rains and cold while dealing with very large plants is a major pita.

In the early days Ive had heavy tall plants tip over and up root during unforeseen rain and wind events.

Keeping them upright and keeping buds dry can become a major ordeal 5 or 8 weeks in to flowering if not ready for it.

I'm probably more prepared this season than any other. I'll be able to cover garden up with little notice in about 10 minutes.

Does anyone have any gg4 girls growing this year ? Mine went into flower but is now going back into veg. any tips or tricks on how to help her would be appreciated.

I am really hoping for some quality Oregon August weather, right now i have no plans to cover mine, i bounced a greenhouse or something with my wife and most got nixed, but hey she lets me grow??? hhahaha,, ok count my blessings, i typically grow indoors, and have that type of growing down to something that i enjoy and crank out crop after crop,, ,BUT this outdoor stuff feels so wierd,,, I always wanted to grow outdoors when i was younger, but no way when you lived with your parents during Regan era,, "this is your brain on drugs" time of life,,
I live so far out in the county theft is rare out here, my only real concern is my neighbor, if he looks hard enough he can see my plants, especially later when they get bigger,,, i did plant some corn and artichokes hoping they get tall and help grab eyes ,,,
but they hardly ever come outside,, just when they jump in thier cars,,, I suppose a bunch of plastic and 2x4s will really be an eye catcher lol
i feel a bit naked with my plants outside, a strange feeling i guess ill get over it
sure hoping that growing Autos in Oregon will get me to harvest before the big oregon rains,,,

Campbelljay2 said:

Does anyone have any gg4 girls growing this year ? Mine went into flower but is now going back into veg. any tips or tricks on how to help her would be appreciated.

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I wish I could help you with that, I had one plant do that and had no luck turning it around. Maybe others know a trick for that. I have grown GG4 and it was a very hardy plant, mold resistant, took a lot of abuse and stayed strong, so if any plant could pull through this, I'm betting that one can. Hope it works out for you -

Campbelljay2 said:

Does anyone have any gg4 girls growing this year ? Mine went into flower but is now going back into veg. any tips or tricks on how to help her would be appreciated. View attachment 4920502View attachment 4920503View attachment 4920504

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They look great. Rest sure they will pull out of flower and return to full veg in no time, because time is on our side. heck there are still 11 days, almost 2 full weeks remaining. Until we officially reach day 1 of sweet sunny summer.


The constant summer like sun with 30c degree temps is causing obvious growth explosions. Even my yummy vine cherry went nuts. Plants under going transformation, no more cutesy, getting down to bizznass.

They ahot up a good half of a foot or more in only a couple days. papa likey .

Yeah I should probably get my irrigation set up in working order though, and the fence, and tie downs. And try less this