"Operation Wetback" - Trumps latest anti-them strategy.

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
I don't think Trump is going to do well in Portland on Nov 3. Maybe we aren't getting his message?

Just Kidding

He's doing well with his base. White men with k-12 education. Or maybe less that 12. He's losing with women regardless of race or level of education, he's losing with black people, Hispanic people hate him, white college educated men are a loss for him too.

538 posts his job approval rating at: 40% approve and 56% disapprove.

His message isn't getting through. But his lawn order initiative isn't reflected in the polls I mentioned. Give it a couple of weeks. Maybe he'll get all the way up to 41% approve. :lol:
I am not so sure, sorry I brought this in this thread, but I have been trying to figure out how to post this the last couple days, so thank you.

I really don't know enough about the different states populations/voting impacts this will have, but as Trump continues to attack the immigrants and he has actually substantially closed the gap in the latino men (and black men) category with Biden vs Trump from Clinton vs Trump.

I was listening to the news and heard something Steve Kornaki (?) on MSNBC was talking about with someone about how there was one area that Trump was doing well, latino and back men. This is in line with all the work that we know the Russian military has been doing in these communities after Trump was elected.



The news is picking up on the way these voting groups are lagging for Biden behind where Clinton was, but I think that these stories are missing a the impact that years of Trump's militarized trolls (foreign and domestic) are having in these communities.

I think that in the hard work they have been putting in has started to really hit pay dirt in the latino and black male demographics.

https://www.vox.com/2020/7/2/21308487/latino-hispanic-vote-trump-biden


Trump is still handily whomping Trump with their votes, but 2016 showed us that the Russians were pulling out all the stops to everything they could to remove voters through disinterest of 'both sides'. So I really have no clue what happens in November.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
I am not so sure, sorry I brought this in this thread, but I have been trying to figure out how to post this the last couple days, so thank you.

I really don't know enough about the different states populations/voting impacts this will have, but as Trump continues to attack the immigrants and he has actually substantially closed the gap in the latino men (and black men) category with Biden vs Trump from Clinton vs Trump.

I was listening to the news and heard something Steve Kornaki (?) on MSNBC was talking about with someone about how there was one area that Trump was doing well, latino and back men. This is in line with all the work that we know the Russian military has been doing in these communities after Trump was elected.



The news is picking up on the way these voting groups are lagging for Biden behind where Clinton was, but I think that these stories are missing a the impact that years of Trump's militarized trolls (foreign and domestic) are having in these communities.

I think that in the hard work they have been putting in has started to really hit pay dirt in the latino and black male demographics.

https://www.vox.com/2020/7/2/21308487/latino-hispanic-vote-trump-biden


Trump is still handily whomping Trump with their votes, but 2016 showed us that the Russians were pulling out all the stops to everything they could to remove voters through disinterest of 'both sides'. So I really have no clue what happens in November.
Polls can be like that. One can see whatever one wants. I also admit to my bias probably affecting the way I read them too.

It is not biased of me to say that from the numbers they show, Trump isn't going to win the Hispanic vote in any of the states they put up in those graphs. Not without a major shift.

The lawn order strategy Trump employed hasn't been in effect long enough to show up in polls. It's going to take a couple of weeks before it does. I am curious. Also a bit nervous.

But no, this isn't 2016. Whenever I hear "it's different this time" my bullshit detector goes off. But really, it 2020 is different from 2016, when Trump barely squeaked by in a win through the EC and marginal loss in overall popular vote. .

Do you believe in jinxes? Do you think that calling the race this early affects anything? I don't or I wouldn't have created my thread. I agree that something can still happen between now and then to erase a double digit lead for Biden. As they say, you don't know what you don't know and I don't know what that can be.

-The hurricane now hitting Houston and soon flooded Houston? I don't think so. Trump's going to muff that somehow.
-Opening schools regardless of high rates of new infections? That's going to make it worse for Trump. It's almost as bad of an idea as nuking hurricanes.
-Law and order types reacting negatively to disorder in the streets? That might work. It worked for Nixon. The Boomer generation were the ones who experienced the police violence at that time. Do you think they are going to respond as positively to his authoritarian tactics as the silent generation did in 1968? I simply don't think he'll get the strength of response from boomers that Nixon got from the WW2 and depression era generation in 68.
-Coronavirus goes away and the economy booms everybody gets rich? Yeah that would work. I don't think "get lucky" is a valid strategy. Just saying.
- Russian interference? I suppose. Nobody has come up with a strong estimate for the effect they had. I don't think it works in lopsided races. It's more of a nudge that makes the difference in a close race. But mark my words. If it gets close, even a small margin for Biden and I'll get very nervous again.

I think Trump wins the close election. It's not close right now and he has 99 days to turn it around. I just don't see the path where he does that.

I don't think I'm powerful enough to jinx this by saying so. I wish I were. I'd put that power to good use. I'd jinx Trump in a heartbeat by calling the race for him and facing the wrath of this forum.

My sense of it is 95% confidence that Biden wins. I'm saying it right now. I just don't see him making the comeback.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Can you name one great wonderful thing trump has done? The FBI is out to get him too, maybe they're doing their jobs and he's a criminal. Why has every living CIA director spoken against him. Do you think the CIA is out to destroy America? Why would so many people speak out against him? Name one great wonderful thing he has done for our country. Lol :)
moses


Where you been? Doing OK?
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
- Russian interference? I suppose. Nobody has come up with a strong estimate for the effect they had. I don't think it works in lopsided races. It's more of a nudge that makes the difference in a close race. But mark my words. If it gets close, even a small margin for Biden and I'll get very nervous again.
Outside of this bit I agree completely with what you said. We don't understand how much brainwashing over 6+ years of nonstop Russian military trolling these communities, but I know from real life that it is happening. And that virtually every American has had to endure this attack almost completely in the dark because of the Republican party, who still keep pushing the Russian propaganda.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/us/politics/congress-disinformation-biden-russia-ukraine.html

I don't know if it works this time, but it is scary as shit.

The level of impact can be seen with people talking about conspiracy theories, 5g and shit like that. Now we actually have Trump propagating it during his tax payer funded telethons. All the 'Karens' this shit is real and it is impacting every sector that we know for a fact that Russian was actively attacking since 2014.

They drop the right kind of false information into all the people they have brainwashed at the same time and who knows.

I hope to hell you are right and I am panicked for no reason, but I don't have faith right now that it is not a footrace regardless of how bad Trump acts for his cult to do enough to squeak him back into office with some pattern of states that we don't see because it is a micro-targeted voter suppression effort.

Also I really do think that the Democrats do understand the danger of what is happening and are not going to screw around, so I am not melting down or anything, but I hate that nothing is being done about it. And leaving us utterly exposed to this attack by the Russian military is completely on Trump.
 

Attachments

Last edited:

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
So you are voting for Trump because he is overtly racist, but are ok with Biden because he is a old white guy.

Seems about right.
no, he is voting for the openly racist trump while pretending that the VP of the first black president is a secret closet racist

by this logic he would vote for a pedophile, as long as the pedophile was honest about it.

these are sick demented racists who have lost all grasp of reality
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
But he said Mexicans are all different
Why are you spreading Dear Leader's lies?

This race baiting attack on Biden is just another example of Trump pushing propaganda by editing clips and manufacturing dirt on Biden so that his cult can pretend that someone else has Trump's obvious racism against brown people.

That is why it is worth watching the entire speeches and not just the slickly edited clips that entities like the Russian military are pushing to get Trump re-elected so Russia can have 4 more years to attack the world unchecked.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
https://apnews.com/94259e962372e22abf2f526befeba924
Screen Shot 2020-09-11 at 8.28.02 PM.png
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — About 8,800 unaccompanied children have been quickly expelled from the United States along the Mexico border under a pandemic-related measure that effectively ended asylum, authorities said Friday.

The Trump administration has expelled more than 159,000 people since the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention emergency order took effect in March, a figure that also includes more than 7,600 adults and children who crossed the border in families.

The figures on children were reported for the first time in a declaration by Raul Ortiz, the Border Patrol’s deputy chief, as part of the administration’s appeal of an order to stop housing children in hotels.

The administration “immediately” expelled most children and families to Mexico but more than 2,200 unaccompanied children and 600 people who came in families were held until flights could be arranged to return home, Ortiz said.

The administration asked the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to overturn a ruling last week that found use of hotels skirted “fundamental humanitarian protections.”

U.S. District Judge Dolly Gee in Los Angeles ruled that using hotels for long-term detention violated a two-decade-old settlement governing treatment of children in custody. She ordered border agencies to stop placing children in hotels by Tuesday.

Justice Department attorneys argued that settlement doesn’t apply during the public health emergency and that hotels were appropriate.

“While in these hotels, the government provides minors with supervision by specialists, recreation, amenities, and protective measures against COVID-19,” the attorneys wrote.

Before the pandemic, unaccompanied children were sent to state-licensed shelters operated by the Department of Health and Human Services and often released to family members while seeking asylum.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Screen Shot 2020-09-18 at 10.56.59 AM.png
https://apnews.com/f2008d23c5f9087f4214d9722dfb097e

HOUSTON (AP) — Sitting across from her lawyer at an immigration detention center in rural Georgia, Mileidy Cardentey Fernandez unbuttoned her jail jumpsuit to show the scars on her abdomen. There were three small, circular marks.

The 39-year-old woman from Cuba was told only that she would undergo an operation to treat her ovarian cysts, but a month later, she’s still not sure what procedure she got. After Cardentey repeatedly requested her medical records to find out, Irwin County Detention Center gave her more than 100 pages showing a diagnosis of cysts but nothing from the day of the surgery.

“The only thing they told me was: ‘You’re going to go to sleep and when you wake up, we will have finished,’” Cardentey said this week in a phone interview.

Cardentey kept her hospital bracelet. It has the date, Aug. 14, and part of the doctor’s name, Dr. Mahendra Amin, a gynecologist linked this week to allegations of unwanted hysterectomies and other procedures done on detained immigrant women that jeopardize their ability to have children.

An Associated Press review of medical records for four women and interviews with lawyers revealed growing allegations that Amin performed surgeries and other procedures on detained immigrants that they never sought or didn’t fully understand. Although some procedures could be justified based on problems documented in the records, the women’s lack of consent or knowledge raises severe legal and ethical issues, lawyers and medical experts said.

Amin has performed surgery or other gynecological treatment on at least eight women detained at Irwin County Detention Center since 2017, including one hysterectomy, said Andrew Free, an immigration and civil rights lawyer working with attorneys to investigate medical treatment at the detention center. Doctors on behalf of the attorneys are examining new records and more women are coming forward to report their treatment by Amin, Free said.

“The indication is there’s a systemic lack of truly informed and legally valid consent to perform procedures that could ultimately result — intentionally or unintentionally — in sterilization,” he said.

The AP’s review did not find evidence of mass hysterectomies as alleged in a widely shared complaint filed by a nurse at the detention center. Dawn Wooten alleged that many detained women were taken to an unnamed gynecologist whom she labeled the “uterus collector” because of how many hysterectomies he performed.

The complaint sparked a furious reaction from congressional Democrats and an investigation by the Department of Homeland Security’s inspector general. It also evoked comparisons to previous government-sanctioned efforts in the U.S. to sterilize people to supposedly improve society — victims who were disproportionately poor, mentally disabled, American Indian, Black or other people of color. Thirty-three states had forced sterilization programs in the 20th century.

But a lawyer who helped file the complaint said she never spoke to any women who had hysterectomies. Priyanka Bhatt, staff attorney at the advocacy group Project South, told The Washington Post that she included the hysterectomy allegations because she wanted to trigger an investigation to determine if they were true. Wooten did not answer questions at a press conference Tuesday.

Project South did not respond to a request for an interview with Bhatt. The Government Accountability Project, another advocacy group involved in the complaint, declined to make Wooten available for an interview.

Amin told The Intercept, which first reported Wooten’s complaint, that he has only performed one or two hysterectomies in the past three years. His attorney, Scott Grubman, said in a statement: “We look forward to all of the facts coming out, and are confident that once they do, Dr. Amin will be cleared of any wrongdoing.”

Grubman did not respond to new questions Thursday.

Since 2018, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement says it found records of two referrals for hysterectomies at the jail, which is in Ocilla, Georgia, about 150 miles (240 kilometers) from Atlanta.

“Detainees are afforded informed consent, and a medical procedure like a hysterectomy would never be performed against a detainee’s will,” Dr. Ada Rivera, medical director of the ICE Health Service Corps that oversees health care in detention, said in a statement.

LaSalle Corrections, which operates the jail, said it “strongly refutes these allegations and any implications of misconduct.”

Women housed at Irwin County Detention Center who needed a gynecologist were typically taken to Amin, according to medical records provided to the AP by Free and lawyer Alexis Ruiz, who represents Cardentey. Interviews with detainees and their lawyers suggest some women came to fear the doctor.

Records reviewed by the AP show one woman was given a psychiatric evaluation the same day she refused to undergo a surgical procedure known as dilation and curettage. Commonly known as a D&C, it removes tissue from the uterus and can be used as a treatment for excessive bleeding. A note written on letterhead from Amin’s office said the woman was concerned.

According to a written summary of her psychiatric evaluation, the woman said, “I am nervous about my upcoming procedure.”

The summary says she denied needing mental health care and added: “I am worried because I saw someone else after they had surgery and what I saw scared me.”

The AP also reviewed records for a woman who was given a hysterectomy. She reported irregular bleeding and was taken to see Amin for a D&C. A lab study of the tissue found signs of early cancer, called carcinoma. Amin’s notes indicate the woman agreed 11 days later to the hysterectomy.

Free, who spoke to the woman, said she felt pressured by Amin and “didn’t have the opportunity to say no” or speak to her family before the procedure.

Doctors told the AP that a hysterectomy could have been appropriate due to the carcinoma, though there may have been less intrusive options available.

Lawyers for both women asked that their names be withheld for fear of retaliation by immigration authorities.

In another case, Pauline Binam, a 30-year-old woman who was brought to the U.S. from Cameroon when she was 2, saw Amin after experiencing an irregular menstrual cycle and was told to have a D&C, said her attorney, Van Huynh.

When she woke up from the surgery, Huynh said, she was told Amin had removed one of her two fallopian tubes, which connect the uterus to the ovaries and are necessary to conceive a child. Binam’s medical records indicate that the doctor discovered the tube was swollen.

“She was shocked and sort of confronted him on that — that she hadn’t given her consent for him to proceed with that,” Huynh said. “The reply that he gave was they were in there anyway and found there was this problem.”

While women can potentially still conceive with one intact tube and ovary, doctors who spoke to the AP said removal of the tube was likely unnecessary and should never have happened without Binam’s consent.

The doctors also questioned how Amin discovered the swollen tube because performing a D&C would not normally involve exploring a woman’s fallopian tubes.

Dr. Julie Graves, a family medicine and public health physician in Florida, called the process “absolutely abhorrent.”

“It’s established U.S. law that you don’t operate on everything that you find,” she said. “If you’re in a teaching hospital and an attending physician does something like that, it’s a scandal and they are fired.”

Binam was on the verge of deportation Wednesday, but ICE delayed it after calls from members of Congress and a request for an emergency stay by her lawyer.

Grubman, Amin’s lawyer, said in a statement that the doctor “has dedicated his adult life to treating a high-risk, underserved population in rural Georgia.”

Amin completed medical school in India in 1978 and his residency in gynecology in New Jersey. He has practiced in rural Georgia for at least three decades, according to court filings. State corporate records also show Amin is the executive of a company that manages Irwin County Hospital.

In 2013, state and federal investigators sued Amin, the hospital authority of Irwin County and a group of other doctors over allegations they falsely billed Medicare and Medicaid.

The lawsuit alleged that nurses at Irwin County Hospital were trained to follow a doctor’s “standing orders” — described as “scripted procedures based on the nurse’s diagnosis.” That meant nurses often decided treatment plans, but they were billed to Medicaid and Medicare as if they doctor did, the lawsuit said.

Investigators linked a standing order to Amin, alleging he required “certain tests always be run on pregnant patients, without any medical evaluation and regardless of her condition.”

The lawsuit was settled in 2015 with no known sanctions against Amin. The hospital paid a $520,000 settlement, saying no doctor paid any of it and had been “released from any and all liability.”

The Georgia Medical Board lists Amin as a doctor in good standing with no public disciplinary action. Board executive director LaSharn Hughes said records of investigations were confidential under state law.

State prosecutors didn’t refer Amin to the medical board after the billing lawsuit because it didn’t involve specific allegations of patient harm, said Katie Byrd, a spokeswoman for Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-ice-raids-sanctuary-cities/2020/09/29/99aa17f0-0274-11eb-8879-7663b816bfa5_story.html
Screen Shot 2020-09-29 at 10.35.40 PM.png

The Trump administration is preparing an immigration enforcement blitz next month that would target arrests in U.S. cities and jurisdictions that have adopted “sanctuary” policies, according to three U.S. officials who described a plan with public messaging that echoes the president’s law-and-order campaign rhetoric.

The Immigration and Customs Enforcement operation, known informally as the “sanctuary op,” could begin in California as soon as later this week. It would then expand to cities including Denver and Philadelphia, according to two of the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive government law enforcement plans.

Chad Wolf, acting secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, probably will travel to at least one of the jurisdictions where the operation will take place to boost President Trump’s claims that leaders in those cities have failed to protect residents from dangerous criminals, two officials said.

Trump has inveighed against sanctuary jurisdictions throughout his presidency, and he has expanded those attacks to include Democratic mayors in cities convulsed by racial justice demonstrations and sporadic rioting after the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis. The immigration operation would sync with two themes of Trump’s reelection campaign: his crackdown on immigration and his push to vilify cities led by Democrats, whom he blames for crime and violence.

Two officials with knowledge of plans for the sanctuary op described it as more of a political messaging campaign than a major ICE operation, noting that the agency already concentrates on immigration violators with criminal records and routinely arrests them without much fanfare.

Screen Shot 2020-09-29 at 10.36.59 PM.png

ICE officials have repeatedly warned cities and counties considering sanctuary policies that the agency would send more agents to make arrests in their jurisdictions, not fewer, if they go forward with their plans.

“We do not comment on any law enforcement sensitive issues that may adversely impact our officers and the public,” Mike Alvarez, an ICE spokesman, said Tuesday in response to questions about the planned raids. “However, every day as part of routine operations, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement targets and arrests criminal aliens and other individuals who have violated our nation’s immigration laws.”

Alvarez said jurisdictions that don’t cooperate with ICE increase risks for agents and the public.

“Generally speaking, as ICE has noted for years, in jurisdictions where cooperation does not exist and ICE is not allowed to assume custody of aliens from jails, ICE is forced to arrest at-large criminal aliens out in the communities instead of under the safe confines of a jail,” he said.

Cities and jurisdictions with sanctuary policies that eschew or prohibit coordination with ICE typically refuse to hold immigrants in jail longer than they are required to so that ICE officers can take them into custody. Such cities also do not help ICE by checking the legal status of suspects who are arrested or detained for minor offenses.

ICE agents operating in sanctuary jurisdictions still may take custody of suspected immigration violators, but without local cooperation, they face the added challenge of finding out when those individuals will be released from jail and do not have the benefit of a coordinated handoff.
The policies, which have been adopted in many of the country’s largest cities, have a significant impact on ICE operations by limiting the number of potential deportees who can be easily taken into custody.

According to the latest statistics, 70 percent of the arrests ICE makes occur after the agency has been notified about an immigrant’s pending release from jail or state prison. ICE has lodged more than 160,000 such “detainers” with local law enforcement agencies since 2019, the agency said.

Sanctuary policies also have worsened a backlog of what ICE calls “at-large criminal and fugitive aliens ICE seeks to apprehend,” according to the agency.

Officials in sanctuary jurisdictions say their policies preserve community trust in immigrant neighborhoods, where officers need residents to report crimes and cooperate with local authorities without fear of being deported.

The Trump administration has periodically threatened to run operations targeting sanctuary cities, including one plan to bus migrants from the border and release them in San Francisco and other Democratic-run jurisdictions. The president also has threatened to strip those governments of federal funding.

White House officials pushed hard last year for a “family op” targeting migrant parents with children, but that effort did not yield the volume of arrests Trump was seeking. The president tipped off that operation, announcing it in a tweet. Some ICE officials privately attributed the operation’s underwhelming results to Trump’s boasting and indiscipline.

Upon learning of prior operations, undocumented immigrants in numerous cities have gone deeper underground, fearing that they might be arrested and deported while their children — sometimes U.S. citizens — will be left behind.

The idea for a campaign publicizing criminal arrests in sanctuary jurisdictions has been floated repeatedly during the Trump administration, two officials said, and was actively under consideration this spring before the coronavirus pandemic. After the outbreak, ICE deferred some of its enforcement plans, citing health risks, and during that time, the agency’s arrests dropped by about one-third, statistics show.

The decision by then-acting director Matt Albence was popular with ICE personnel who worried about exposing their families to the novel coronavirus, but Trump administration officials were irritated and wanted the president to be able to run on a campaign of tough enforcement, according to ICE and DHS officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they did not want to get into trouble with the White House. Albence retired last month.

Alexei Woltornist, a DHS spokesman, said the department “does not comment on or confirm allegedly leaked operational plans.”

On Monday, ICE announced a dozen arrests in Mecklenburg County, N.C., where voters elected a sheriff in 2018 who curbed the jurisdiction’s cooperation with ICE. That campaign was featured prominently in the Netflix documentary series “Immigration Nation.”

In a statement, ICE official Henry Lucero said the agency “cannot stand by idly while knowing the public is being misled about the role ICE plays in keeping the public safe.”

“The fact is local policies prohibiting agencies from working with ICE put you in danger and waste police resources,” Lucero said. “The public should hold its leaders accountable and demand to know what type of criminals are being released from local custody instead of turned over to ICE.”

ICE said six of the Mecklenburg County arrests included immigrants with criminal convictions who were wanted on immigration violations and that sanctuary policies left them “free to reoffend until their capture.”
 

CunningCanuk

Well-Known Member
I hate Trump as a person (he’s stuck up, hard headed, and arrogant) BUT he has helped the economy and I like how he’s trying to save us tax payers money. If you don’t pay taxes do us all a favor and leave this country.
In light of trump’s federal tax disclosure, I just had to give this chestnut of a post a bump.

I’m sure this sock is under a new account now, but funny anyway.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Looks like all that hard work attacking our nation's Latino male population, that Trump militarized troll army (foreign and domestic) conducted since 2016, has paid off.

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-race-and-ethnicity-donald-trump-business-virus-outbreak-0a6c3cfac62581a385ba243b73f69efb
Screen Shot 2020-10-29 at 8.15.17 AM.png
PHOENIX (AP) — Paul Gonzales promised his wife he wouldn’t vote for Donald Trump in 2016. But the 60-year-old salesman in the Phoenix suburb of Mesa voted for him anyway and said he plans to do it again next week.

Gonzales said he’s drawn to what he sees as Trump’s alignment with Christian values and his economic record prior to the pandemic.

“He’s made it possible for a lot of minorities to … in some cases even better themselves,” Gonzales said.

As Trump held two rallies in Arizona on Wednesday his campaign released what it called the American Dream Plan for Hispanic Americans. Speaking in Glendale, Trump said his plan would bring more than 2 million new jobs to Hispanic communities and create over a half-million new Hispanic-owned small businesses.

“Over the last four years I’ve been delivering for Hispanic Americans like never before, Trump told the crowd.

Behind in national polls, the president is putting up a fight for Latino voters in key swing states with Democratic candidate Joe Biden. Polls show Biden with a commanding overall lead with Hispanic voters, a diverse voting bloc that defies neat political categories. Still, about three in 10 registered Latino voters nationwide back Trump, roughly consistent with how Latinos voted in 2018 congressional elections, according to AP VoteCast, and in 2016, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of voters. And of those, Latino men — like men of other groups — have supported Trump more than Hispanic women, and in some cases, in contrast to members of their own families.

A recent Pew survey showed 67% of Hispanic women and 59% of Hispanic men supporting Biden. Similarly, Hispanic women were 9 percentage points more likely to vote for Democrats than Hispanic men in 2018, according to AP VoteCast data. The nagging divide highlights the defining role that gender, maybe even more than race could have in the election.

Gonzales said his wife, a Democrat who works as a therapist, plans to vote for Biden. In 2018, she convinced him to vote for Democratic Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, a victory that cemented Arizona’s swing-state status to many in Washington.

But this time around, he’s rarely discussed either presidential candidate with his wife or daughters, ages 25 and 29.

“We don’t even talk about politics because it just leads to arguments,” said Gonzales, a third-generation Mexican-American. “As long as I leave religion out of the house, and my views on religion and politics, we’re fine,” he said.


To explain the gender gap, Geraldo Cadava — a historian at Northwestern University and author of “The Hispanic Republican: The Shaping of an American Political Identity, from Nixon to Trump” — points to trends in the U.S. workforce. Latinos made up nearly 21% of male-dominated federal law enforcement agencies in 2016 such as Customs and Border Protection, which is almost 40% Latino, according to Justice Department data.
Latino men are a growing share of local law enforcement agencies and the U.S. military, he said, which all lean Republican. And in recent years, more Hispanic women have graduated from college than men.

Cadava sees the ground maintained by the GOP with Latino voters under Trump as key to the party’s future, whatever the outcome of the Nov. 3 election. But as Latinos near a fifth of the U.S. population, he said, clinching the “usual 25 to 33%” of the Hispanic vote will be a losing game. “That math, just at some point isn’t going to work in your favor.”

Throughout the campaign, some Republicans and Democrats have pointed to Trump’s brash masculinity — central to his appeal to men of all groups — to explain his pull with Latino men, likening his style to so-called machismo culture.

“Latinos like a strong leader. They don’t like somebody who’s apologizing, they don’t like people who waffle,” said Jesse Romero, an advisory board member of Catholics for Trump. “They’re used to strong men, period.”

But many U.S.-born Latinos, projected by Pew to be the largest non-white voting group in the election, have few cultural ties to Latin America or its leaders and balk at being described as a monolithic bloc — given the vastly different cultures and migration histories of 60.6 million people.

A Pew survey in early October showed Biden led Trump, but by a narrower margin, among Hispanic voters across nine states they considered battlegrounds: Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Michigan, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

Hispanic voters in Florida lean more Republican than Hispanic voters nationally, largely driven by Cuban Americans and Venezuelan exiles in the state. In 2018, AP VoteCast showed 44% of Hispanic voters in Florida voted for Republicans, compared with 32% nationwide. Fifty-six percent of Cuban voters in Florida backed Republicans, while 56% of other Hispanic voters in the state backed Democrats.

Targetting these Latino men in the election’s home stretch, the Mi Familia Vota group last week launched a $1.4 million digital ad campaign in key states including Arizona, Nevada, Florida, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan. The voting organization has worked to turn out the Latino vote against Trump.

In one 30-second Spanish-language ad, a soccer commentator narrates the losses Latino men have faced in healthcare and jobs under Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

“The message is clear. We’re talking about how Trump has failed us,” Eduardo Sainz, the organization’s Arizona director said. In Arizona, where polls show Biden with a narrow lead, Mi Familia Vota has registered 185,000 new Hispanic voters, he said. Sainz estimates 60% have been women and 40% men.

The gender gap tends to benefit Democrats as Hispanic women have voted in some recent elections at higher rates than men. Sainz acknowledged that Trump’s lasting appeal among some Latino men has worried Democrats and puzzled others, but his group has found that women often have the last word.

“Latina women have high influence in our households.”
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-virus-outbreak-chicago-lawsuits-immigration-455a43be3393915bc14ec7919bf187d0
Screen Shot 2020-11-02 at 6.04.28 PM.png
CHICAGO (AP) — A federal judge in Chicago struck down a key immigration rule Monday that would deny green cards to immigrants who use food stamps or other public benefits, a blow to the Trump administration on the eve of the election.

In a decision that applies nationwide, U.S. District Judge Gary Feinerman rejected the rule that had taken effect recently after the U.S. Supreme Court reversed a hold on the policy following lawsuits. Among other things, Feinerman said the rule violates the Administrative Procedure Act, which makes federal agencies accountable to the public by outlining a detailed process for enacting regulations.

The decision marked the latest turn in a complex legal battle over the rule that has been among President Donald Trump’s most aggressive steps in overhauling the nation’s immigration system. The Chicago lawsuit, filed by the Illinois Coalition of Immigrant and Refugee Rights and Cook County, was among numerous legal challenges.

Under the Trump administration policy, immigration officials could deny permanent residency to legal immigrants over their use of food stamps, Medicaid, housing vouchers or other public benefits. Green card applicants had to show they wouldn’t be burdens to the country or “public charges.”

Federal law already required those seeking permanent residency or legal status to prove they wouldn’t be a “public charge.” But the Trump administration rule included a wider range of programs that could disqualify them.

Immigrant rights advocates deemed it a “wealth test,” while public health experts said it would mean poorer health outcomes and rising costs as low-income migrants chose between needed services and their bid to stay in the country legally. Several cities said such a chilling effectwas already evident.

“If these changes are going to be made, they should be made through a deliberative process instead of the way this administration has been doing this,” said Fred Tsao, senior policy counsel for ICIRR. “We may or may not get a new administration. If we do, we’d like to see a lot of this damage undone and hopefully some legislative changes that will actually benefit immigrants instead of scaring them away.”

Officials in Cook County, which runs one of the nation’s largest public health systems, argued that when people lack health care coverage, they’re less likely to seek preventative care and rely on more expensive emergency care. That also would increase the risk of communicable diseases.

“As we all continue to be impacted by COVID-19, it is vital that no one is fearful of accessing health care. The court’s decision to block enforcement of the Public Charge Rule re-opens doors for immigrants to access vital services like health care,” Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle said in a statement.

The U.S. Supreme Court decided in a 5-4 vote in January that the rule could take effect, but enforcement was halted by a federal judge in New York because of the coronavirus pandemic. But by September, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals had reversed that hold and the rule took effect nationwide.

The Trump administration has touted the rule as a way to ensure only those who are self-sufficient come to the U.S., one of many steps to try to move the country toward a system that focuses on immigrants’ skills instead of emphasizing the reunification of families.

Officials with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and U.S. Immigration and Citizenship Services didn’t return messages seeking comment Monday.

If there’s an appeal, there could be another legal wrinkle in the case.

In June, the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld Feinerman’s decision blocking enforcement of the rule in Illinois while the merits of the case could be decided. It was a 2-1 decision, with then-Circuit Judge Amy Coney Barrett dissenting. Barrett was confirmed as a Supreme Court justice last month and would have to recuse herself if the case reached the nation’s highest court.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/02/29/biden-trump-texas-border-brownsville-eagle-pass/
Screen Shot 2024-02-29 at 11.31.19 AM.png
Perhaps no city along Texas’s border with Mexico has better epitomized what can happen when local leaders and volunteers band together to help the thousands of men, women and children seeking a new life in the United States than Brownsville.

The Gulf Coast port city is nestled within the U.S. Customs and Border Protection sector that has long seen the highest levels of migration. But even when border crossings surge, the shocks are quietly absorbed. Residents donate supplies and help orient the new arrivals on how to navigate their way to their final destinations.

Three hundred miles upriver, Eagle Pass offers a tale of a far different border city. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has transformed the riverfront community into a military front line on immigration. Razor wire and rusted shipping containers warn migrants to stay away. And military trucks and rifle-carrying troops occupy the city’s biggest park.

As President Biden and Republican contender Donald Trump head to Texas on Thursday, the cities each has chosen to plant their flag on immigration are a study of contrasts. While both hug the Rio Grande, that’s about where the similarities end. Their common origin stories — riverfront military garrisons that grew into bicultural communities — have diverged in ways that reflect the dynamics of this contested and polemical region.

The fundamentally different responses to coping with the surge in migration illustrate the crossroads that the nation faces on one of the election’s most critical issues.

“This place for better or worse may be the fulcrum for who becomes the next president,” said former Democratic Texas state representative Poncho Nevárez, speaking of Eagle Pass. “It’s here where we’ll find out if Biden stays president or if Trump becomes president again.”
Biden is visiting Brownsville, a Democratic stronghold in sync with the party’s traditional approach to immigration, balancing border security with humanitarian considerations.

It’s there where Sister Norma Pimentel joined other civic and religious leaders in helping shepherd migrants across the border bridge after a newly elected Biden reversed Trump’s “Remain in Mexico” program three years ago. Thousands had been stuck in squalid migrant camps just across the border, forced to wait in Mexico while their asylum claims were processed.

Pimentel, director of Catholic Charities of the Rio Grande Valley, said it felt like the seasons at last had changed: “It was so beautiful.”

The city of nearly 190,000 residents devotes its own resources — with help from federal grants — to move migrants quickly to other places where friends and loved ones await them. And as fences, a towering wall and Border Patrol agents have cemented their presence along the Rio Grande, a network of faith-based and civic nongovernmental organizations on both sides of the border has also sprung up. They work closely with U.S. authorities to create as orderly a system as possible to help when the number of people crossing climbs.

“We are the first responders,” said Andrea Rudnick, a leader with the volunteer group Team Brownsville.

Mayor John Cowen called that “the Brownsville model.” He said that when 45,000 people passed through the city in a 30-day span last year, the community was able to handle it so efficiently alongside the Border Patrol that most residents probably didn’t even notice the sizable increase. The city remains one of the safest in the country, the mayor added.

“We’ve never had a moment that was chaotic,” he said. “It never felt out of control.”

Before 2021, rural Eagle Pass rarely saw migration numbers eclipse the sparse resources its local Border Patrol could provide. The once-sleepy town of 30,000 is isolated from other more prepared border communities in Texas. But as the number of people crossing steadily rose, the community was forced to scale up its response.

Residents, including powerful ranch owners, turned to the state for help. The region has historically elected Republicans to Congress, but to win locally, candidates usually run as Democrats, albeit conservative or moderate ones. However, it’s the GOP that controls the purse strings in Texas. The Republican governor’s office stepped in to provide millions in funding through his signature border initiative, Operation Lone Star.

The Abbott administration reacted to the city’s anxieties in a way several local officials said the Biden administration has not. Many people, they said, felt abandoned by the federal government. Some residents are nostalgic for Trump, whom they view as tougher on illegal migration.

“We know what policies work and don’t work,” said Freddy Arrellano, former chair of the Republican Party of Maverick County, home to Eagle Pass. “We felt safer under Trump.”

Texas has filled the vacuum — with troops, razor wire, buses, border wall and Humvees. But it has come at a cost: Eagle Pass, in essence, has become occupied territory. State troops seized Shelby Park — a critical stretch of riverfront land — and shut out U.S. Border Patrol agents. City leaders voted not to pursue legal action because they can’t afford it.

Operation Lone Star critics say the governor’s heavy-handed approach is more performance art and foolishness than practical. The hospital could use more personnel, for example, but instead state dollars have funded new cars for the county attorney’s newly renovated office — also financed by Operation Lone Star, local records show.

The city’s only faith-based nonprofit that works with migrants has quietly expanded its operations. In both Eagle Pass and Brownsville, border crossings have declined thus far in 2024. The governor took credit, but Mexico has also stepped up aggressive tactics to prevent migrants from reaching its northern border.

Nevertheless, Eagle Pass’s association with “border chaos” has stuck, making it the perfect place for Trump, a candidate who thrives on disorder, to make his stand, said Nevárez.

“They benefit from this psychosis of the locals who say they are overwhelmed,” he said. “Trump sees that if there is going to be a pitched battle on this issue that he wants to be at the flash point.”

Neither border city has ever seen much result from a presidential or candidate visit, local leaders said. They expect less so in a hotly contested election year.

“I think people should see these visits the way border communities see them: ‘It’s campaign season, so here come the politicians,’” said Tami Goodlette, legal director of the Texas Civil Rights Project’s Beyond Borders program. “We should all be as skeptical of them as border communities are.”

While Brownsville is friendlier territory for Biden, he has kept in place many of his predecessor’s policies and signaled a willingness to adopt more hard-line measures that blur the distinctions between his administration and Trump’s. That is lamentable, immigration advocates said.

“It's not an option to tell migrants to wait over in Mexico. We’d like him to reach higher than that,” said longtime attorney and human rights activist Jennifer Harbury, who has worked to save the lives of migrants since the 1980s, when wars in Central America pushed thousands to flee. “I’m not happy with the lack of leadership and creativity on the part of the Democratic Party, and I’m seeing some cowardice.”

For those just arriving, being caught in the middle of the nation’s debate over immigration can feel perplexing. Erick Camejo, a university professor from Venezuela, said he would thank Biden if he got the chance to meet him and assure him that the vast majority of migrants are like him. He is in Brownsville seeking political asylum after defying Venezuelan strongman Nicolás Maduro and losing his job.

“What fault do I bear for a broken immigration system,” he said. “I needed help, and this country gave me that chance.”

So far, the White House has not reached out to Brownsville’s nonprofits, as they have in the past — including Pimentel, who is widely known in Catholic circles and beyond for her work at the border. Biden is expected to meet exclusively with law enforcement and local elected leaders, several locals said. That worries some, including the president’s fellow Catholics.

Marooned in Matamoros: How a migrant family seeking asylum survived the "Remain in Mexico" program

Pimentel said she will be praying that the president doesn’t turn his back on the human beings suffering persecution and other forms of oppression. And she hopes both political leaders don’t lose sight of respecting people while enforcing border security.

Wherever each lands on immigration, she said, the country would be far better treating migrant families with dignity because “that is who America is.”
 

BudmanTX

Well-Known Member
yeah i'm waiting for this showdown to happen, and in the article there mostly right Brownsville is rather good at the migrant crossing, and they are more prepared cause of where they are, now Eagle Pass is a total different ball game, it's actually apart of a native american lands, the crossing is actually old compared to Brownsville and Laredo. Now from what i've heard the Mexican Feds are right across the border in that area and have forced the smugglers and the cartels to make a different route. It should be interesting overall......
 
Top