OldMedUsers current grow and plans

Should close this up I guess. Got only 8.4 oz of bud but the same in sugar trim, popcorn and chunks the trimmer chewed off the buds so lots of goodie to make oil and hash with. Don't really like the smoke much. Gets me high as a kite but is lacking medicinally.

Those clones and seedlings are all finally setup in the grow room under the 1000W MH. The seedlings in the smaller pots will be set up on a platform to get them closer to the light once they have rooted in well. They are just starting their 2nd day since transplanting. Not a single one died yet and all are looking happy so far. I went with 8 - 2gal pots instead of 10 as they fit the configuration I finally decided on. I re-positioned the light mover so it can run up and down the middle of the lot of them. I'm thinking of hanging a curtain of panda film on the left side to bounce light back in but with the 1000W going I'm not sure it will make any difference.

Hi Old Man , hoping you could help me out again , Your grow looks good . Problem I need to figure out is " What the hell went wrong " ? Been growing Photo plants and That part is going okay but I had one Auto seed so I planted it and got a real nice Auto female and had a Photo period Male ( NOT a good looking Male but its all I had ) so I pollinated the Auto with it , things seemed to be okay , it finished okay and I got about 60 seeds and had a yeld of 5.5 oz wet and a little under 2 oz dry . Used it to make oil and the oil was or is not good at all .

Could be I knocked off most of the try-combs or maybe when I used it for seeds I ruined it for oil , I am beyond my understanding , got any advice for me ? I don't know if the seeds will be any good , planted some of the Auto seeds about 4 days ago and so far one has sprouted.

When a plant gets seeded it puts all it's energy into growing those seeds and both potency and yield are reduced a lot. 60 seeds doesn't sound like a lot so I assume you just seeded a branch or a few buds on a branch so the rest of the plant should have been OK. If you just used the seeded buds to make the oil tho that could be why it was not as good as you would have liked.

What was the rest of the bud like for smoking? When I grew out 6 of my crosses made with a photo and an auto 4 were girls that didn't auto and 2 were males that did. I used pollen from both the males to seed some lower buds on each of the girls and will be planting some of those seeds soon to see if any girls from the F2 seeds will actually auto for me. Then I will breed them to hopefully get beans that are all autos for outdoor planting way up north here where photos never finish outside in time to beat the frost.

How did you make your oil?

Thanks . That would explain it , the oil was okay but not as good a feeling , I thought the Auto might have been a CBD plant , the last time I made seeds it was two Photos and I must have got 2,000 seeds . this time when I did the Auto I also put the same pollen on what I called my super plant , it had outgrown the other plants by about 3 times , got about 600 seeds from it , planted some of those seeds yesterday .

Started off making my oil like Rick Simpson method , but then tried a different way and both me and my wife liked it better , tell me what you think of this ? I dry the flower and trim then seal it up in tinfoil , heat it to 250 degrees for 20 minutes , add one tablespoon of Everclear for each gram of material , let it soak for a day or 2 and then put the amount we like with a little soda and sip it slow and then get to bed , We think by leaving the Everclear in it works both faster and longer ,

It sounds like my auto seeds may not end up to be Auto plants . Is that dependent on how good the Male was ? It was not to good for smoking , it finished in about 8 weeks but I left it alone for an extra 2 weeks thinking I should let the seeds ripen a little more , I dont know if that is necessary or not ? How do you know when to pull the plants when your getting seeds ?

When you start seeing some of the calyxes splitting open with ripe seeds they're generally all ready. About 5 weeks is usually enough. I'll just put a garbage bag over most of the plant and leave out a branch to make seeds with so the rest of the plant is "virgin". I sometimes have done up to 5 different crosses on the same plant like that. Dust a branch in the evening then spray it down good with wate the next day. Dust another branch etc until they are done. I tie a different coloured twist tie around each branch and write down which is which were I can find it come harvest time. If the plant is ripe before the seeds are mature I just harvest all the unseeded buds and leave the seeded branches on until they are ready.

Your EverClear thing is basically a tincture and it sounds like you are doing it right tho when I've done it I leave it to soak for a month. I'm staying away from the booze so don't make tinctures no more.

I save the pot after making my cocobudder and add it to smoothies or baking and it gets me baked off my ass. Just made a smoothie for a late night snack and ought to be off to bed shortly. Waste not, want not.

Wow do I have a lot to learn , we are rushing around trying to find a better delivery system due to my sisterinlaws Cancer ( Pancreas cancer ) the doctors have told her that there is nothing more they can do and have given her 3 months to live , we have her on the amount of oil Simpson says is necessary , but she is having a hard time with the oil taken the way we are doing it , I have some Cacao butter I got from Amazon , the spelling is different but according to what I can find Cocoa butter and Cacao butter is the same thing except the way they are processed , No sugar or additives added to the Cacao oil==== I think she might be able to handle it better . Would you have time to explain how you make your Cocoa butter ,?

I had bought the Cacao butter to make Oil for my arms and it is helping a lot .I am 75 and I see so many people my age with the same problem ,

I am sure your must be busy with all the things you are doing but we could sure use your help .

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So today we basically have two words with the same meaning. Cacao will be seen by the chocolate industry and botanists alike as the more accurate or relevant term. Someone in the long arm of the chocolate industry may tell you that cocoa refers to any of the manufactured products of the plant (especially the powder) as well as the bean itself. Interestingly, English seems to be the only language having this conundrum. All other languages just have one word for all of the plants' many forms.

I use coconut oil not cacao oil tho both should work the same. I'm not sure what the smoke temp is for cacao oil as I heat mine to 260F but coconut oil can take pretty high temps. Higher than butter for sure and when I fry my eggs with it in my cast iron fry pan they slide out like a no-stick pan.

I looked it up and cacao butter is 400F where coconut oil is only 350 so both are fine.

I sent you a link to my method.

Here's an update pic from yesterday for the one at the top of this page. Today is day 28 of 12/12 and things are progressing apace. The plants in the center are all reaching up for the light and seem really happy.

Still picking off thrips so my advice to anyone reading this is make damn sure your plants are bug free before flipping to flower. A total of 27 plants now and if I chase bugs every day I find about 20 - 25. Had a few balls show up on the OG18s which pissed me off. If I ever get clones, free or not, from anyone they will be isolated for at least a couple weeks and examined with a f'n microscope before being let out into the general population.

One of the 5 OGs got fed the Bug Ignitor and after 4 weeks there is no noticeable difference in bud size or trichome development so I won't be wasting any more money on that stuff. I may try it again with identical clones in DWC as it's possible that the soil/soilless mix the plants are in supplies whatever it is in Ignitor and may perform differently in a pure hydro grow. Plan to get some Bud Factor X to do a comparison grow using it as it comes highly recommended by a friend who swears by it and grows outdoor plants in 100gal fabric pots as big as his house and plenty of indoor plants using RDWC. Some decent myco additive is another supplement I'd like to try with my soil/soilless plants too.

Day 33 of 12/12

Gonna be nice MedUser , I dig the flat canopy you developed who needs a scrog hey. I think the same way.

I like ScroG but with that many plants it's a no-go. The tall ones I just rolled the stems that stuck up until soft then bent them over to keep them from getting any taller. Only have a few more inches I could raise that light now so that worked out good.

Leaves beginning to yellow all over at the end of 6 weeks. Thinking I might go down and really lollipop the OG18s. Probably should have done that a while ago but it might help fatten up the colas more the last few weeks. First time I've grown those but they are supposed to be 10 week girls. The two pots in the middle front are the Blue Heaven and should be finishing up in two weeks or even less. The plant on the right sitting on a stool is the Purple Kush and for some reason the hairs on the very top colas of each branch are turning red like they've been pollinated or burned. The buds under the tops are still pure white and that's not happening to any other plant so not sure what's going on with it.

Took a pic last night just after lights out. 41 days.

looking good meduserold you old med user you haha Im stoned
Just vaped some bubblgum that packs a punch that a old stoner can feel nice and strong.

for me I can get more sq. footage of plant material by illuminating both the top and side of plant using vertical lighting on the lower half of the plant. At some point I want to try ditching overhead lighting all together and go straight up vertical fuk the over light. Not that is doesn't work cause it does we know that , I use both it rocks. I want to *try* all side light see what it does for me.
Might be the trick many pros use vertical hps ,like many of them / most of them. Gotta be something to it. Gotta be.

HaHa. That post fits your nym.

Did some lollipopping on three of them tonight and trimmed up the buds on them. I'll do the last two for a sat nite thrill. The scissor hash was good for 6 out of weeks. Got more little popcorn than decent nugs but that's OK by me. Should have about a half oz of bud once it's cured up.

I've seen a lot of nice vertical gardens and have a plan for one in my head. A DWC tub on each of two dollies with a semi-circular vertical screen about 5' high so the two fit face to face and make a circle about 5' in diameter. Train the branches horizontally back and forth across the screens until 3/4 full like a horizontal ScroG. Hang a bare 1000W bulb in the center with a hook on it so it can be lifted up to the ceiling when you have to work on the plants. I have to wear a hat now when I'm working on the plants. That light mover keeps sneaking up on me and baking the top of my head.

A labor of love , I am thinking i'll put a screen around the tents inner sides squarely and secure branches to it then use lighting directed at it with the mylar inches away from the backside say 6 or 8 inches. Then the reflected back light should illuminate the backside side of the plants. It should be like getting two light sources from one.

Many pros use the bulbs Vertical , not so much the plant arrangements but both work well.

Well its 8:05 am in my neck of the woods , time to get good and AlTeReD !
Happy Wake n bake / wake n Vape

Its Sativa Time

I'm rarely out of bed before 10 and if I wake'n'bake I might as well be in bed for all I'll get done the rest of my day.

As you're growing in a tent you should be able to hang your screen from the roof a couple inches from the walls and let them do the reflecting if any light makes it through the canopy. In my plant pics you can see that vertical screen in the background. I just put panda film on the back of that and spiked it to the wall with fencing staples. Rounded out that corner. This grow I'm doing now is the biggest yet in that room and that's why there's only reflective material in part of it. Off to the left is my access to my sump pump so I can't really use the whole space in there. I need to get off my ass and build the expansion I've bought the materials for. Going to put in a 8x6' grow space so I have 8x4 growing area and 2 ft along the side to move around in. That's where my light rail is going to go but I love using it now so may need to get another one when finances permit. Plan to use the existing grow room to veg plants and then fill one half the new space with plants to flower and a month later fill the other half then each month or so harvest half and refill with new plants so that area will be in perpetual flowering mode. As I hope to move back to BC ASAP I'm up in the air about what to do.

Decided not to lollipop the last two OGs so I can see if it actually makes any difference to the yields.

Im someone who doesn't lollipop , instead I bud them out from top to bottom its cool you left the two for a comparison test. I have my money on the two shaggies !

I don't usually do it either and end up with a million little popcorn buds to deal with. I'll decide about future practices once the result from this little experiment are in. If the yields are the same but the buds that need dealing with are larger on the lollipopped ones then a-hackin-I-will-go! Working smart and not hard has been my credo all my life.

I was going to reveg a couple of the OGs but they are mildly hermie so I'll grow some of the seeds I'll get off the one I dusted with Otto pollen and select for more stable genes. If I find I like the bud off these of course.

As I use side lighting the bottom bud all turn out plump and sticky seem to have more flavor and often the crystals had their start at the bottom and worked their way up leaving some extra sticky bottom nugs. Its the sidelight it gives thick bud from top to bottom.

This harvest 2.5 lbs of fat buds 2 oz of skimp off all four plants combined.Heres a shot that shows some of the bottom bud

That looks great but my electric bill is really getting up there and I'm not making any money on CPP-D. Got the 1000 going 12 a day and a 400 mh for 18. Last bill was $475 and the actual cost of power was only $178. The rest is delivery and other f'n charges. They can charge me delivery when I see a truck pull up with a load of electricity for fugs sake!