Oil from ditch weed

midnitetoak

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A friend who is definitely NOT a grower took some bag seed & threw em in the ground. Ended up with 10 foot high plant that was cut & hung for weeks untrimmed. No attempt at curing just thrown in shopping bags to gather mold. He doesn't know me on here so I can be honest & say that it smelled exactly like hay but when you break the huge buds apart has a skunk aroma with cow shit undertones...yuk.nasty! I yelled at him for the lack of attention but he seemed more concerned about what to do with the several shopping bags full of yucky ditch-weed slowly molding in the barn. Figured we could make oil out of it though I don't expect quality. I grabbed enough to fill a tube & blasted it after chopping it into 1/4" bits. I saw no visible trichomes but the buds were really sticky when broken up.

Was very surprised to get a puddle of amber oil which purged to a reddish jellybean after several hours. While we did get a decent quantity of oil that looks nice the taste was a different story. Tastes like a skunk rolled in some hay covered in cow shit but it does get you baked though likely the harshest vapor I ever tried....played around with this stuff: reheating to a puddle. then vac under low heat. then freezing. Nothing helps the tastebut definitely made a huge sticky mess of my pans & tools. Winterized all the shatter that was stuck all over my Pyrex & tools but I don't notice a difference from the un-winterized oil. It is shatter but not rock hard; more like stiff taffy...you can pick off pieces easily with a dabber. Not sure if there's anything more to do with this except winterize but doubt it will help much. Guess this is as good as it's gonna get and was made from shit so I guess I should be happier with the results.

I started this thread to show people that it is important to plan what it do with your weed (ie drying curing) even if it's crappy backyard bag seed that you are gonna make into BHO. Anyone got a suggestion for an improved next run of this unsmokable shit? How about a similar story about your idiot friend who you still got love for? Should we try a qwiso run?
 

Texas(THC)

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Maybe make some capsules so you don't have to taste it...?
I think BHO is gonna be better than QWISO in this situation, since you will yield a bit more.

Also the most important question you should be asking is what to do with the mold you most likely extracted as well.

So for that I would advise winterizing and filtering through a micron syringe filter, which will filter out any bacteria from the mold.
 

BCOGYODA

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Hey MT ya man keeping very good care after harvest is so important. I did a run of older little popcorn buds that were just stored in a dry cool place with low humidity so I thought it should turn out decent but it didn't. Just the fact that the little popcorn was old made the degradation of the product produce a shitty extracted product. Oil was dark with very little smell to it.

I would be very hesitant to consume any product with known mold spores in it. Honestly I don't know for sure but my thought is that it would be pretty hard to get ALL mold spores/particles out of the weed. And mold is nasty shit to put into our bodies. It's a shitty feeling seeing your friend ruin a batch of potentially good meds. I feel for ya man
 

Texas(THC)

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I know how you feel Yoda, I too would still be hesitant to smoke anything with mold but im confident at .2 micron it will remove all traces of mold.
I say this with confidence because of where I learned it from, Skunkpharmresearch.com/ polishing extracts.

This topic has been brought up several times in the past with much more detailed information on what all the filter can remove.

Thanks fade!
 

SaybianTv

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Texas it depends on how much mold for how long and it can be of different types. I 0.2 micron everything that has suspect degredation and in my early days of low material availability I took a box of funghi off some biker's who EXPECTED it back. I ran that shit through 3 0.2 runs, it was as clean as your going to get, still tasted like hay and liquorice while strong as hell. It was wrong man, it wasn't wrong in the 80's in fact this oil was probably top shelf biker oil but man it was WRONG. luckily they didn't come back for it and I turned it into "Topical" foot cream.

I personally think via 0.2 syringe it's safe for non facial tissue topical uses. I never really understood who had enough oil to go putting it into body balms n stuff when I could barely afford to dab "back then". I guess it's stuff like this they use but Im sure they didn't use 0.2 cuzz they never made the moldy stuff into oil. No open wound creams for god sakes, i just keep thinking of flesh eating disease somehow springing up from spider mite mold.

Can anyone dispute giving moldy weed an appropriate use as topical concentrate oil? I know allot about funghi but more in how to grow then than how to stop them, I know spore's can be durable or extremly fragile so I don't have any authority on the types of molds that develop pre harvest and post harvest in regards to Bud for oil making. I can make silage and ferment food with good molds that supress bad ones, but I actually dry very little of the food I grow so, someone slap me down if 0.2 -> decarb topicals is across the line. I know everyone says they turn away moldy bud, but I don't mind keeping a second set of everything just to make healing creams and so on. Cuzz really very few of you are looking at making much past what goes on the dabber in large quantities, i just wonder if it's viable beyond my own personal uses for moldy bud which has really never showed up again. Im running out of topicals n the shit works so now whut? I need moldy weed don't I.
 

qwizoking

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If the "unpleasant" smell is from terps, a different strain will do ya.....I started off making hash from mex brick weed. A micron syringe really helps it out....usually amber fairly nutty and hashy with little smell..nice ....
 

Texas(THC)

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Good point Saybian, sounds about right too.
I think we can all agree midnitetoak should do that regardless though if he plans to smoke it, it would make me feel better lol
 

midnitetoak

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I was hesitant to consume this myself but did it anyway... Not sure if I either got used to it or if some if the grosser tasting terps have dissipated but the taste seemed better after Winterizing with ISO & leaving out at room temp for a couple days. I scraped it all up & warmed back into a puddle...called it done... No butane at all; totally silent on the nail. Couldn't find everclear in my local liquor stores so the hunt continues.

My buddy is the kind if guy you just can't tell him shit... He's always right even when he's dead wrong. He got real bent out of shape when I told him the hay smell in his bud was mold forming... He claims it's from the hay he stores in the barn. I failed to convince him that we should process more bud into shatter & filter with a syringe. He's never even heard of dabbing before I showed him so it was a tough sell anyway. "Rednecks prefer to keep shit simple" he said..."would rather just smoke a fat joint"... Some men you just can't reach
Fine. Fuck it. Fuck him and his shitty ditch weed... My own hydroponically grown (& virtually mold free!) Dutch genetics will be ready in 45 days or so & will be 100x better than this garbage... Let him smoke that moldy-ass schwag...thanks everyone for your input
 

midnitetoak

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Texas it depends on how much mold for how long and it can be of different types. I 0.2 micron everything that has suspect degredation and in my early days of low material availability I took a box of funghi off some biker's who EXPECTED it back. I ran that shit through 3 0.2 runs, it was as clean as your going to get, still tasted like hay and liquorice while strong as hell. It was wrong man, it wasn't wrong in the 80's in fact this oil was probably top shelf biker oil but man it was WRONG. luckily they didn't come back for it and I turned it into "Topical" foot cream.

I personally think via 0.2 syringe it's safe for non facial tissue topical uses. I never really understood who had enough oil to go putting it into body balms n stuff when I could barely afford to dab "back then". I guess it's stuff like this they use but Im sure they didn't use 0.2 cuzz they never made the moldy stuff into oil. No open wound creams for god sakes, i just keep thinking of flesh eating disease somehow springing up from spider mite mold.

Can anyone dispute giving moldy weed an appropriate use as topical concentrate oil? I know allot about funghi but more in how to grow then than how to stop them, I know spore's can be durable or extremly fragile so I don't have any authority on the types of molds that develop pre harvest and post harvest in regards to Bud for oil making. I can make silage and ferment food with good molds that supress bad ones, but I actually dry very little of the food I grow so, someone slap me down if 0.2 -> decarb topicals is across the line. I know everyone says they turn away moldy bud, but I don't mind keeping a second set of everything just to make healing creams and so on. Cuzz really very few of you are looking at making much past what goes on the dabber in large quantities, i just wonder if it's viable beyond my own personal uses for moldy bud which has really never showed up again. Im running out of topicals n the shit works so now whut? I need moldy weed don't I.
i would think even topicals would be dangerous if mold spores are known to be present. How do you know that any of the BHO out there for sale on the street was made from non moldy bud/trims? I live in a mmj state where rec is still criminal.. People smoke whatever they get their hands on including moldy home grown
 

midnitetoak

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Maybe make some capsules so you don't have to taste it...?
I think BHO is gonna be better than QWISO in this situation, since you will yield a bit more.

Also the most important question you should be asking is what to do with the mold you most likely extracted as well.

So for that I would advise winterizing and filtering through a micron syringe filter, which will filter out any bacteria from the mold.
I err um dabbed it but I feel ok
 

SaybianTv

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If your buddy stored weed near hay then you definitely have the spores from hay that cause farmer's lung, ugh Its bad stuff man. Now it ain't gunna give you flesh eating disease if you syringe filter it down for everything else's sake and keep it out of internals.
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Fadedawg

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All mold isn't created equal, and some are pernicious. Composting molds like Aspergillus, growing on dead damp material, produces aflatoxins, that are not easily removed and attack the central nervous system, in addition to the liver. We've all smoked some, but ingesting large quantities, or folks with compromised immune systems are reason for serious concern.
 

midnitetoak

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Yeah yuk gross...a mutual friend said that he saw the rest of it & it's pretty much unsavable at this point. I even offered to give the guy some clones & help with harvesting & curing for next year but again was met with belligerent resistance. Tried to help but can't cure total ignorance if you are not willing to listen. I don't plan on running any more of this garbage...I have advised my buddy against smoking it but I know he's gonna anyway
 
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