Obama's Power Grab to Gain Control of Private Property

and you're from the south, but that probably doesn't mean a thing as to why you would be so silent in the face of white supremacy.

bigotty buck says what?

So an Italian guy born and raised in Detroit is from the south? You really are slipping.

But at least you ratcheted up your entertainment value. "look at that group of people from that geographic location, they are all bigots!". That cracks me up every time how you miss the delicious irony when you do this.
 
No, I gave up on you a long while ago. Your arguments are as weak as your premise. You have nothing to provide to a conversation except negativity and an attitude. So now I just mock your counterarguments.

I'm sorry, will you accept my apology?

For the record, I realize I'm being an ass in this thread but don't agree that I'm always like that. I was bored.
 
The fact that you not only don't know this but apparently think it is absurd shows how little you actually know about politics. Take a few classes and if I were you I would start with sociology so you can grow out of the Social Darwinism.

I really want to tell you what you did there, but I think I'll let you marinade in it for awhile.
 
bigotty buck says what?

So an Italian guy born and raised in Detroit is from the south? You really are slipping.

But at least you ratcheted up your entertainment value. "look at that group of people from that geographic location, they are all bigots!". That cracks me up every time how you miss the delicious irony when you do this.

i never said ALL people from the south are racist asshats, but it is quite the trend, especially on this website.
 
Good god you need to take a class in political theory. Fascism is a right wing ideology. Mussolini was a right winger. Marxism does not compromise through democratic means, and Marx's ideas on class conflict are laid out in a take it or leave it fashion. If you explained this to a Marxist they would laugh in your face.

the fact that hje compromised and sought Marxism through the electoral process and gradual demolishing of capitalism is WHY mussolini was drummed out of Marxism's inner circle.

when you adopt "democratic socialism" (which you have) and extol it's virtuse, you are adopting FASCISM

calling Fascism "Right Wing" is as retarded as calling Stalin "right wing"

the "right" is not authoritarian, the only siliarities between "the right wing" and fascism is NATIONALISM, but Marxism also exploits nationalism, which you would know if you understood Marxism.

the nascent socialist state must be defended from corrupting influences, and outside forces, until it can blossom into utopian communism.

the socialist and communist states must also spread the joys of "Scientific Marxism" to capitalist societies encouraging their proles to hurl their bodies at the barricades, while ensuring that counter-revolutionary thought doewsnt infiltrate from the evils outside the communist utopia.

thats Nationalism, Marx Style.

you really think nobody reads marx but the anointed?
or do you think once anybody reads that claptrap they will be convinced and join the herd?

Marxism is as weak, faulty and pointless as "Divine Right of Monarchy" or primitive tribalism.
 
the fact that hje compromised and sought Marxism through the electoral process and gradual demolishing of capitalism is WHY mussolini was drummed out of Marxism's inner circle.

when you adopt "democratic socialism" (which you have) and extol it's virtuse, you are adopting FASCISM

calling Fascism "Right Wing" is as retarded as calling Stalin "right wing"

the "right" is not authoritarian, the only siliarities between "the right wing" and fascism is NATIONALISM, but Marxism also exploits nationalism, which you would know if you understood Marxism.

the nascent socialist state must be defended from corrupting influences, and outside forces, until it can blossom into utopian communism.

the socialist and communist states must also spread the joys of "Scientific Marxism" to capitalist societies encouraging their proles to hurl their bodies at the barricades, while ensuring that counter-revolutionary thought doewsnt infiltrate from the evils outside the communist utopia.

thats Nationalism, Marx Style.

you really think nobody reads marx but the anointed?
or do you think once anybody reads that claptrap they will be convinced and join the herd?

Marxism is as weak, faulty and pointless as "Divine Right of Monarchy" or primitive tribalism.

you've called me both a socialist and a fascist for stating that i accept the premise of capitalism.

no one really cares what page of the manifesto you are on.
 
Capitalism can not exist with out a state to protect private property. This fact is sufficient to prove my point.

capitalism exists even when there is no state.

you are again entirely wrong.

i guess you never heard of the Dark Ages, where people still owned shit, even when the Pax Romana broke down and anarchy reigned.

SOCIALISM is the economic form that requires a state, since individuals can protect their own shit when needed, but only a state can protect "the commons"

you are pointless.
 
capitalism exists even when there is no state.

you are again entirely wrong.

i guess you never heard of the Dark Ages, where people still owned shit, even when the Pax Romana broke down and anarchy reigned.

SOCIALISM is the economic form that requires a state, since individuals can protect their own shit when needed, but only a state can protect "the commons"

you are pointless.

The govt exists to serve the ruling class and protect private property. Anarchism and capitalism are mutually exclusive terms. When people put up boundaries to protect they are doing what states do. Voluntaryism is simply the privatization of the apparatus of state.

Socialism on the other hand requires no state, only unity, solidarity and equality.
 
you've called me both a socialist and a fascist for stating that i accept the premise of capitalism.

no one really cares what page of the manifesto you are on.

you only accept capitalism withing the bounds of what YOU personally approve of.

capitalism for YOU, Socialism for everybody else.

That Is Fascism, which is a from of Marxism

i am unsurprised that you fail to understand this simple concept, but here it is in Kindergarten form:

i know whats mine.
whats mine is MINE.
i know whats yours is YOURS

you know whats yours
whats yours is YOURS
you do not accept that whats mine is MINE

if i have more of something than you, thats not fair.
my stuff should be shared with everybody else, until i have no more of anything than you do.


thats Marxism.

if you do it by hitting me over the head with a club, thats Socialism (Marxist variety, not the imaginary anarcho-socialism some claim to believe in)
if you do it by asking me to share, thats Communism
if you do it by voting yourself the right to rob me, thats Fascism.
 
The govt exists to serve the ruling class and protect private property. Anarchism and capitalism are mutually exclusive terms. When people put up boundaries to protect they are doing what states do. Voluntaryism is simply the privatization of the apparatus of state.

Socialism on the other hand requires no state, only unity, solidarity and equality.

"anarchism" and any social form are mutually exclusive you fool.

socialism requires a state to apportion shit fairly, protect the collective from counterrevolutionary thought and impose it's will on those who are disloyal.

capitalism can and does thrive in any social setting save authoritarian marxist socialism and anarchy.
 
you only accept capitalism withing the bounds of what YOU personally approve of.

capitalism for YOU, Socialism for everybody else.

That Is Fascism, which is a from of Marxism

i am unsurprised that you fail to understand this simple concept, but here it is in Kindergarten form:

i know whats mine.
whats mine is MINE.
i know whats yours is YOURS

you know whats yours
whats yours is YOURS
you do not accept that whats mine is MINE

if i have more of something than you, thats not fair.
my stuff should be shared with everybody else, until i have no more of anything than you do.


thats Marxism.

if you do it by hitting me over the head with a club, thats Socialism (Marxist variety, not the imaginary anarcho-socialism some claim to believe in)
if you do it by asking me to share, thats Communism
if you do it by voting yourself the right to rob me, thats Fascism.

your manifesto gives me a headache.

have you considered a ghost writer?

rend pawl just fired his white supremacist ghost writer, so maybe you can swoop him up. not likely if he asks to be paid, but ya never know. he may just do it for charity.
 
socialism requires a state to apportion shit fairly, protect the collective from counterrevolutionary thought and impose it's will on those who are disloyal.

Socialism does not require those things. Therefore it does not require a state in order to secure those things.
 
Look at kkkynes frantically trying to redefine every word in your argument.

so now you argue that Socialism is NOT authoritarian, and is NOT a lamentable necessity on the road to the Communist Utopia?

cuz you said that very thing not long ago

pretending the dictatorship of the proletariat (through their party bosses and apparatchiks of course) doesnt hold currency, and that without violent revolution you cannot have marxism is patently deceptive. marxism is a wonderfully amorphous thing, especially in the hands of lying chompskyites like yourself.

my (and Marx's) definitions have not changed a bit, only your narrative has changed.
 
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