Obama Presidency... Unconstitiutional?

Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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GoodbyeFreedom said:
Which states...

"...Hawaiian people never directly relinquished to the United States their claims to their inherent sovereignty as a people over their national lands, either through the Kingdom of Hawaii or through a plebiscite or referendum."

So if Hawaii was ADMITTED to never have constitutionally been a state... how does that not enact any change?
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It would have redacted the Admission Act. It redacts nothing. All the Joint Resolution actually does is admit we basically took Hawaii. Legally, it changes nothing. The 1993 Joint Resolution was passed with full knowledge of a 1959 referendum which passed on a 17 to 1 margin, approving statehood. The admission of Hawaii was Constitutional.
The Admission Act, formally An Act to Provide for the Admission of the State of Hawaii into the Union (Pub.L 86-3, enacted March 18, 1959) is a statute enacted by the United States Congress and signed by President Dwight D. Eisenhower which dissolved the Territory of Hawaii and established the State of Hawaii as the fiftieth state of the Union.
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Dankdude said:
BINGO.... Neither one is eligible.... Sorry to disappoint either one of you Johnny or Vi, but GoodbyeFreedom is correct.
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In many/most cases, a child born outside the US to a US citizen or citizens is a US citizen by birth (and, in the opinions of most legal scholars, qualifies as a "natural born" citizen eligible to become President or Vice-President).

So the question is not whether the child can "become" a US citizen, but rather how the parents can go about documenting the fact of the child's citizenship.

The law on US citizenship for children born outside the US depends on when the child was born, whether one or both parents are US citizens, and how long each parent lived in the US prior (not necessarily immediately prior) to the child's birth. A table describing US law on this subject during the 20th century (for children born in wedlock) can be found on the Web site of Buffalo immigration lawyer Joe Grasmick. Check with a US consulate for an exact interpretation of the rules with regard to a specific situation; however, here's a summary of the rules as they pertain to children born now or in the recent past.
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USCitizenship.info | Did you know?
In 1936, McCain was born at the Coco Solo Air Base, in the then-American controlled Panama Canal Zone, to Jack McCain, a Navy officer, and Roberta McCain. If McCain wins the 2008 election, he’d be the first American to take the presidential oath who has an official birthplace outside the 50 states.
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Law Blog - WSJ.com : Does John McCain Have a Birthplace Problem?
 
GoodbyeFreedom

GoodbyeFreedom

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It admits that we OVERTHREW the Hawaiian Government, and apologizes to the Hawaiian people. Since when was it ok to overthrow a government just for their sugar resources?

"By an act of war, committed with the participation of a diplomatic representative of the United States and without authority of Congress, the government of a feeble but friendly and confiding people has been overthrown."
"A substantial wrong has thus been done, which a due regard for our national character, as well as the rights of the injured people, requires we should endeavor to repair."
-Grover Cleveland.

Cleveland refused to approve the annexation of Hawaii.

"Native Hawaiian people never directly relinquished to the United States their claims to their inherent sovereignty as a people over their national lands, either through the Kingdom of Hawaii or through a plebiscite or referendum"
-U.S. Public Law 103-150

Excuse me for mis speaking... The admission of Hawaii may have been Constitutional, but ethical? Hell no. The annexation of Hawaii was fought hard, and defeated in the Senate. The pro-annexation forces in Congress submitted a proposal to annex the Hawaiian Islands by joint resolution, which required only a simple majority vote in both houses. This eliminated the 2/3 majority needed to ratify a treaty, and by result, the necessary support was in place. House Joint Resolution 259, 55th Congress, 2nd session, known as the "Newlands Resolution," passed Congress and was signed into law by President McKinley on July 7, 1898.

The 1897 Petition Against the Annexation of Hawaii


SECONDLY, lol. McCain. Yes, having at least one American parent does make you a US Citizen. But if you are born in Panama, your state of being a Natural Born citizen is questionable. Federal law states that "Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States". The law that conferred this status took effect on August 4, 1937, one year after John McCain was born. Honestly that one is still undecided.

Is he or is he not the definition of "Natural Born Citizen"?
 
OnSolomonsGrave

OnSolomonsGrave

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...I have never once changed my opinion on your stance or changed anything in my argument, so it's my fault someone posted something in concurrence with what i think? My bad, I am sorry someone disagrees with you and agrees your views are twisted and strange.
 
GoodbyeFreedom

GoodbyeFreedom

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Im going to have to retract my previous statement.

"the Native Hawaiian people never directly relinquished to the United States their claims to their inherent sovereignty as a people over their national lands, either through the Kingdom of Hawaii or through a plebiscite or referendum"

Hawaii never gave up thier sovereignty... how could they become a state? That is the question.
 
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Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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No, he won't get the Republican nod. He probably will not go "third party" (presumably Libertarian), as they've backed (gack) Bob Barr. ugh.
 
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