Obama on Money in Politics

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"I can’t assume that the money chase didn’t alter me in some ways. …

Increasingly I found myself spending time with people of means — law firm partners and investment bankers, hedge fund managers and venture capitalists. As a rule, they were smart, interesting people, knowledgeable about public policy, liberal in their politics, expecting nothing more than a hearing of their opinions in exchange for their checks. But they reflected, almost uniformly, the perspectives of their class: the top 1 percent or so of the income scale that can afford to write a $2,000 check to a political candidate. They believed in the free market and an educational meritocracy; they found it hard to imagine that there might be any social ill that could not be cured by a high SAT score. They had no patience with protectionism, found unions troublesome, and were not particularly sympathetic to those whose lives were upended by the movements of global capital. Most were adamantly prochoice and antigun and were vaguely suspicious of deep religious sentiment.

And although my own worldview and theirs corresponded in many ways — I had gone to the same schools, after all, had read the same books, and worried about my kids in many of the same ways — I found myself avoiding certain topics during conversations with them, papering over possible differences, anticipating their expectations. On core issues I was candid; I had no problem telling well-heeled supporters that the tax cuts they’d received from George Bush should be reversed. Whenever I could, I would try to share with them some of the perspectives I was hearing from other portions of the electorate: the legitimate role of faith in politics, say, or the deep cultural meaning of guns in rural parts of the state.

Still, I know that as a consequence of my fund-raising I became more like the wealthy donors I met, in the very particular sense that I spent more and more of my time above the fray, outside the world of immediate hunger, disappointment, fear, irrationality, and frequent hardship of the other 99 percent of the population — that is, the people that I’d entered public life to serve. And in one fashion or another, I suspect this is true for every senator: The longer you are a senator, the narrower the scope of your interactions. You may fight it, with town hall meetings and listening tours and stops by the old neighborhood. But your schedule dictates that you move in a different orbit from most of the people you represent.

And perhaps as the next race approaches, a voice within tells you that you don’t want to have to go through all the misery of raising all that money in small increments all over again. You realize that you no longer have the cachet you did as the upstart, the fresh face; you haven’t changed Washington, and you’ve made a lot of people unhappy with difficult votes. The path of least resistance — of fund-raisers organized by the special interests, the corporate PACs, and the top lobbying shops — starts to look awfully tempting, and if the opinions of these insiders don’t quite jibe with those you once held, you learn to rationalize the changes as a matter of realism, of compromise, of learning the ropes. The problems of ordinary people, the voices of the Rust Belt town or the dwindling heartland, become a distant echo rather than a palpable reality, abstractions to be managed rather than battles to be fought."

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/15...asnt-corrupting-in-fact-he-said-the-opposite/
 


"I can’t assume that the money chase didn’t alter me in some ways. …

Increasingly I found myself spending time with people of means — law firm partners and investment bankers, hedge fund managers and venture capitalists. As a rule, they were smart, interesting people, knowledgeable about public policy, liberal in their politics, expecting nothing more than a hearing of their opinions in exchange for their checks. But they reflected, almost uniformly, the perspectives of their class: the top 1 percent or so of the income scale that can afford to write a $2,000 check to a political candidate. They believed in the free market and an educational meritocracy; they found it hard to imagine that there might be any social ill that could not be cured by a high SAT score. They had no patience with protectionism, found unions troublesome, and were not particularly sympathetic to those whose lives were upended by the movements of global capital. Most were adamantly prochoice and antigun and were vaguely suspicious of deep religious sentiment.

And although my own worldview and theirs corresponded in many ways — I had gone to the same schools, after all, had read the same books, and worried about my kids in many of the same ways — I found myself avoiding certain topics during conversations with them, papering over possible differences, anticipating their expectations. On core issues I was candid; I had no problem telling well-heeled supporters that the tax cuts they’d received from George Bush should be reversed. Whenever I could, I would try to share with them some of the perspectives I was hearing from other portions of the electorate: the legitimate role of faith in politics, say, or the deep cultural meaning of guns in rural parts of the state.

Still, I know that as a consequence of my fund-raising I became more like the wealthy donors I met, in the very particular sense that I spent more and more of my time above the fray, outside the world of immediate hunger, disappointment, fear, irrationality, and frequent hardship of the other 99 percent of the population — that is, the people that I’d entered public life to serve. And in one fashion or another, I suspect this is true for every senator: The longer you are a senator, the narrower the scope of your interactions. You may fight it, with town hall meetings and listening tours and stops by the old neighborhood. But your schedule dictates that you move in a different orbit from most of the people you represent.

And perhaps as the next race approaches, a voice within tells you that you don’t want to have to go through all the misery of raising all that money in small increments all over again. You realize that you no longer have the cachet you did as the upstart, the fresh face; you haven’t changed Washington, and you’ve made a lot of people unhappy with difficult votes. The path of least resistance — of fund-raisers organized by the special interests, the corporate PACs, and the top lobbying shops — starts to look awfully tempting, and if the opinions of these insiders don’t quite jibe with those you once held, you learn to rationalize the changes as a matter of realism, of compromise, of learning the ropes. The problems of ordinary people, the voices of the Rust Belt town or the dwindling heartland, become a distant echo rather than a palpable reality, abstractions to be managed rather than battles to be fought."

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/15...asnt-corrupting-in-fact-he-said-the-opposite/
And the 30 year drift further to the right continues... Nixon and Reagan would be too liberal for the re-re's now...the 1% influence is overwhelming. Thanks Scalia! you heartless dick.
 
And the 30 year drift further to the right continues... Nixon and Reagan would be too liberal for the re-re's now...the 1% influence is overwhelming. Thanks Scalia! you heartless dick.

Thirty? Reagan's election in '79 was closer to 40 years ago.

I think the pendulum is stuck. Someone crammed it full of bribe money and broke its 'kickback' mechanism lol
 
I'd say that the trend has been going longer than that.

Ike was OK,
JFK was great, that's why they killed him,
RFK would have been great, that's why they killed him,
LBJ was trying to continue JFK's legacy, but he was from Texas, nuff said.

Then Nixon, Reagan, 2 Bushes, etc. No wonder we're in such a shitstorm!

:mrgreen:
 
I'd say that the trend has been going longer than that.

Ike was OK,
JFK was great, that's why they killed him,
RFK would have been great, that's why they killed him,
LBJ was trying to continue JFK's legacy, but he was from Texas, nuff said.

Then Nixon, Reagan, 2 Bushes, etc. No wonder we're in such a shitstorm!

:mrgreen:
Yeah, but Reagan's deregulation & trickle down voodoo economics, and firing striking air controllers made it official and obvious...and his SC nominations (especially heartless Scalla) fucking sealed it... Now it's so far from center even Reagan himself might not be conservative enough for these obstructionist tea bagging dick weeds.
 
Yeah, but Reagan's deregulation & trickle down voodoo economics, and firing striking air controllers made it official and obvious...and his SC nominations (especially heartless Scalla) fucking sealed it... Now it's so far from center even Reagan himself might not be conservative enough for these obstructionist tea bagging dick weeds.

Yea I hear ya! I'm loving watching the right twist themselves into pretzels trying to deny the dumpster from taking the nomination (Thank God the dumpster will take 85+ delegates and Cruz a big fat zero in NY) then Hillary will bitchslap Trump in the general and appoint a liberal to the SCOTUS, Obama should rescind the Garland nomination.

B4L
 
In Obama's words (above) he erroneously labels the present kind of market as "free market" and continues to hop down the bunny trail of lies drawing the wrong conclusions from his initial misconception. (lie?)

In other words Obama needs to answer the phone when correlation and causation call.
 
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I'd say that the trend has been going longer than that.

Ike was OK,
JFK was great, that's why they killed him,
RFK would have been great, that's why they killed him,
LBJ was trying to continue JFK's legacy, but he was from Texas, nuff said.

Then Nixon, Reagan, 2 Bushes, etc. No wonder we're in such a shitstorm!

:mrgreen:


Relying on "leaders" of a cult which uses threats of violence as the primary means will always bring unintended consequences and shitstorms.

Ike reminds me of a cop that joins L.E.A.P. (but only after he retires of course) as he realized he'd participated in a scam and warned against the military industrial complex at the end.

JFK was looking into the Federal reserve and had a hit put on him.

RFK had nice hair and likely got sloppy seconds on Marilyn Monroe.

LBJ was a supreme racist thug among thugs and probably had something to do with offing JFK. His legacy included a close alliance with the military industrial complex. He handed them the lucrative "benefits" of the Viet Nam war on a silver platter.

Yes, of course, Nixon, Reagan and the Bushes were douches. Every President has been in some way or another.
 
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Funny, I see this nation trending hard left and the left winning on almost all fronts.

Perception is a tricky thing I guess.
 
Seriously, the culture wars have been resoundingly won by the left.

The left has won almost all court cases of consenquence in the last few years... Decade.

The only place they havnt won is gun control.

The left got the health care bill.

Many on the left will point to Citizens United but that isn't a left right thing. The left is more upset about it but it applies equally to both.

But gay marriage is now the law of the land.

The left is advancing on almost all fronts.

Prove me wrong.

I admit I could be wrong. It's just perception. But that's mine.
 
Seriously, the culture wars have been resoundingly won by the left.

The left has won almost all court cases of consenquence in the last few years... Decade.

The only place they havnt won is gun control.

The left got the health care bill.

Many on the left will point to Citizens United but that isn't a left right thing. The left is more upset about it but it applies equally to both.

But gay marriage is now the law of the land.

The left is advancing on almost all fronts.

Prove me wrong.

I admit I could be wrong. It's just perception. But that's mine.
Many on the left will point to Citizens United but that isn't a left right thing. The left is more upset about it but it applies equally to both.

That is so much bs if that were true than why did the right fight so hard to get it past? The left certainly doesn't benefit from this law as much as the right, dark money is poured into right wing races all over the country all the time.

Them Rosy glasses are clouding your judgement.

B4L
 
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