Obama : A Step Directly Into 1984

TheBrutalTruth

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"Computer was invented by a bunch of government scientists,"

BS Obama

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1936
Konrad Zuse - Z1 Computer First freely programmable computer.

1942
John Atanasoff & Clifford Berry
ABC Computer Who was first in the computing biz is not always as easy as ABC.

Wikipedia : Konrad Zuse

Konrad Zuse (pronounced [ˈkɔnʁat ˈtsuːzə]; June 22, 1910 Berlin - December 18, 1995 Hünfeld) was a German engineer and computer pioneer. His greatest achievement was the world's first functional program-controlled Turing-complete computer, the Z3, in 1941 (the program was stored on a punched tape). He received the Werner-von-Siemens-Ring in 1964 for the Z3.[1]

Zuse also designed the first high-level programming language, Plankalkül, first published in 1948, although this was a theoretical contribution, since the language was not implemented in his lifetime and did not directly influence early languages. One of the inventors of ALGOL (Rutishauser) wrote: "The very first attempt to devise an algorithmic language was undertaken in 1948 by K. Zuse. His notation was quite general, but the proposal never attained the consideration it deserved."

In addition to his technical work, Zuse founded the first computer startup company in 1946. This company built the Z4, which became the second commercial computer leased to ETH Zürich in 1950. Due to World War II, however, Zuse's work went largely unnoticed in the UK and the USA; possibly his first documented influence on a US company was IBM's option on his patents in 1946. In the late 1960s, Zuse suggested the concept of a Calculating Space (a computation-based universe).

Pre-WWII work and the Z1

Born in Berlin, Germany, his parents moved to Braunsberg, East Prussia in 1912, where his father worked as a postal clerk. Zuse visited the Collegium Hosianum in Braunsberg and after his family moved to Hoyerswerda, he passed his Abitur in 1928. Zuse graduated in civil engineering from the Technische Hochschule Berlin-Charlottenburg in 1935. In his engineering studies, Zuse had to perform many routine calculations by hand, which he found mind-numbingly boring. This led him to dream about performing calculations by machine.

He started as a design engineer at the Henschel aircraft factory in Berlin-Schönefeld but resigned a year later to build a program driven/programmable machine. Working in his parents' apartment in 1936, his first attempt, called the Z1, was a binary electrically driven mechanical calculator with limited programmability, reading instructions from a punched tape. The Z1 never worked well, though, due to the lack of sufficiently precise parts. The Z1 and its original blueprints were destroyed during World War II.

Between 1987 and 1989, Zuse recreated the Z1, suffering a heart-attack midway through the project. It had 30,000 components, cost 800,000 DM, and required four individuals (including Zuse) to assemble it. Funding for this retrocomputing project was provided by Siemens and a consortium of five companies.
Wikipedia : John Atanasoff

John Vincent Atanasoff (Bulgarian: Джон Винсент Атанасов, Dzhon Vinsent Atanasov) (October 4, 1903 – June 15, 1995) was a Bulgarian-American physicist. The 1973 decision of the patent suit Honeywell v. Sperry Rand named him the inventor of the first automatic electronic digital computer, a special-purpose machine that has come to be called the Atanasoff–Berry Computer.

The son of a Bulgarian immigrant who became an electrical engineer, Atanasoff held positions as a teaching professor, a governmental wartime research director, and a corporate research executive before being recognized in the 1970s and 1980s for digital electronic computer research he conducted at Iowa State College in the late 1930s and early 1940s.

Partly due to the drudgery of using the mechanical Monroe calculator, which was the best tool available to him while he was writing his doctoral thesis, Atanasoff began to search for faster methods of computation. At Iowa State, Atanasoff researched the use of slaved Monroe calculators and IBM tabulators for scientific problems. In 1936 he invented an analog calculator for analyzing surface geometry. The fine mechanical tolerance required for good accuracy pushed him to consider digital solutions.

According to Atanasoff, several operative principles of the Atanasoff–Berry Computer (ABC) were conceived by the professor in a flash of insight during the winter of 1937–1938 after a drive to Rock Island, Illinois. With a grant of $650 received in September 1939 and the assistance of his graduate student Clifford Berry, the ABC was prototyped by November of that year.

The key ideas employed in the ABC included binary math and Boolean logic to solve up to 29 simultaneous linear equations. The ABC had no central processing unit (CPU), but was designed as an electronic device using vacuum tubes for digital computation. It also used separate regenerative capacitor memory, a process still used today in DRAM memory.

Obama, GOVERNMENT DID NOT INVENT THE COMPUTER.

God, I swear, it's like stepping right into 1984 with government claiming to have invented things. What's next, is it going to claim to have invented the airplane (The Wright Brothers), the helicopter (Sikorsky) and the integrated circuit (John Bardeen, Walter Brattain & Wiliam Shockley ) as well?

I don't know about any one else, but I don't like feeling like I've just stepped into 1984.
 

Twistyman

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McCain ...a step to prehistoric policies.. war mongering.. anti gay, anti abort.. anti anything not endorsed by the Rove doctrine..I thought it was bush doctrine..but he's just not that smart... I want to see palin and cheney go hunting......they could take McCain with them, to carry their balls for them. He sure as shit ain't got any... yes mr. bush...no mr. bush.. Shit take bush too..maybe they'll shoot each other... Cheneys good at that..
 

TheBrutalTruth

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McCain ...a step to prehistoric policies.. war mongering.. anti gay, anti abort.. anti anything not endorsed by the Rove doctrine..I thought it was bush doctrine..but he's just not that smart... I want to see palin and cheney go hunting......they could take McCain with them, to carry their balls for them. He sure as shit ain't got any... yes mr. bush...no mr. bush.. Shit take bush too..maybe they'll shoot each other... Cheneys good at that..
Senseless rhetoric does not make a debate, or a discussion, despite what you may have seen as an example from both McCain and Obama.
 

desertrat

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Both of them suck, Desertrat.
truly..... but without doubt our country is going to choose one of them - and at the end of the day i think the democrat will balance the budget as did bill clinton (there is such a thing as a peace dividend) and one will protect our civil liberties better as did ronald reagan. either would be an improvement over bush who did neither.

unfortunately, ron paul will remain an observer.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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truly..... but without doubt our country is going to choose one of them - and at the end of the day i think the democrat will balance the budget as did bill clinton (there is such a thing as a peace dividend) and one will protect our civil liberties better as did ronald reagan. either would be an improvement over bush who did neither.

unfortunately, ron paul will remain an observer.
The peace dividend was a bunch of baloney, and was spent on increasing the size of the entitlement programs (The government was reduced to robbing from the military to give to the "needy" because it was afraid that if it tried to rob more from the people they'd revolt.)

As far as the budget being balanced and entering a surplus, that wasn't Clinton, that was the Republicans. All Clinton did was cause government to stop doing a damn thing (probably the most productive time period we've ever gotten out of our government, sadly) when he refused to sign their balanced budget.
 

Doctor Pot

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Obviously, Obama was referring to the ENIAC I, which has more direct ties to modern computers than its predecessors did.
 

Twistyman

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Senseless rhetoric does not make a debate, or a discussion, despite what you may have seen as an example from both McCain and Obama.
But thats all you get... Its time that Govs. hire the right person for a job... A warren Buffet ..finance... maybe a marine biologist as fisheries sect.. A gen.. the armed forces.. not a gates or rumsfield... They've all just ensconced themselves in Gov and they just play a game to stay there.. Congress and senators that attend maybe 10% of meetings.. Do anything to stay...even out a cia agent...just for politics... they are nothing more then a greedy bunch of meglomanics,, with delusions of grander.. Not a Lincoln or a Reagan in the whole of washington..
 

desertrat

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As far as the budget being balanced and entering a surplus, that wasn't Clinton, that was the Republicans.
l've always found i have more credibility when i give the devil his due, and in this case the fact is the budget was balanced under clinton's watch and has exploded under the lack-of-fiscal discipline bush. clinton would never have pushed the prescription drug benefit for example. i might actually support the repubs if they were fiscally conservative, but they're demonstrably not.

not to be mistaken for a clinton fan, because i am not.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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l've always found i have more credibility when i give the devil his due, and in this case the fact is the budget was balanced under clinton's watch and has exploded under the lack-of-fiscal discipline bush. clinton would never have pushed the prescription drug benefit for example. i might actually support the repubs if they were fiscally conservative, but they're demonstrably not.

not to be mistaken for a clinton fan, because i am not.
Now, why would I wish to insult you, by confusing you with a Clinton Fan.

Though, your refusal to give credit to the Republicans as well as Clinton, does make me wonder just a bit, :-)
 

desertrat

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Now, why would I wish to insult you, by confusing you with a Clinton Fan.

Though, your refusal to give credit to the Republicans as well as Clinton, does make me wonder just a bit, :-)
no argument about repubs in house of representatives, they've been consistent, but the rest of repubs are worse than the typical democrat president, imho.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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no argument about repubs in house of representatives, they've been consistent, but the rest of repubs are worse than the typical democrat president, imho.
There's no denying that.

Republicans in the Senate need to be voted out, so do the Democrats. Then once we have some new faces we can ban Lobbyists from D.C.

Freedom of Speech can be served just as well by allowing them to Email, and Snail-Mail the Representatives just like everyone else does.
 
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