Nute lockout in DWC?

shiva71

shiva71

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Ppm stayed more or less the same over night which is good news i guess. I'll give her a new rez today at 25% nutes and increase it 25% a day intil im up to 100%. I really hope she pulls through, im dying to try this strain!
 
PetFlora

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rkymtnman said:
yep, you burnt the shit out of her with the 1800ppm.

only thing i would do at this point is flush for 24hrs with RO water only. then come back with even lighter nutes (300ppm) and pray for the best.

i harvested a raspberry cough a few weeks ago and the smoke is really good.
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Flushing with pure water will not 'flush' as well as having some nutrient in the water
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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shiva71 said:
Ppm stayed more or less the same over night which is good news i guess. I'll give her a new rez today at 25% nutes and increase it 25% a day intil im up to 100%. I really hope she pulls through, im dying to try this strain!
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what do you mean by 100%?????

Hopefully not more than 500 in veg and 800 in flower
 
shiva71

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I mean full strength as per Cannas schedule although im not sure i should follow this too strictly...
Do you grow in DWC and what nutes are you on PT?
Cheers
 
shiva71

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Ppm stayed the same again (320) overnight and i think some of the yellow leaves seem to be turning green. Am I good to increase ppm to say 500? (my water is 120)
What about the additives (Rhizo, Cannazyme, Boost), when should i think about using these?
Any thoughts appreciated!
 
shiva71

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Theres me getting all excited i had some replies and its just you guys squabling :p
I went up to 500ppm yesterday and she didnt like it - it had risen to 800 this morning so back down it went, to 500.
But she still looks very unwell. Im trying to take on what youve all said about reading the plant, if i do this she seems to be saying "feed me!!!" but if i read the ppm meter its saying "dont feed me, i tried 500 and it shot up to 800". So im confused. She definitely looks like she needs something!!
I reckon im over the worst of the nute toxicity but i really helping getting her back to health!
Cheers!
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PetFlora

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Jypsy Dog said:
Such attitude... Both fuckin ways improve the recovery. Get over yourself.
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why don't you read exactly what he wrote before opening your ignorant mouth, or are your reading comprehension skills that lacking
 
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Xs121

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shiva71 said:
Theres me getting all excited i had some replies and its just you guys squabling :p
I went up to 500ppm yesterday and she didnt like it - it had risen to 800 this morning so back down it went, to 500.
But she still looks very unwell. Im trying to take on what youve all said about reading the plant, if i do this she seems to be saying "feed me!!!" but if i read the ppm meter its saying "dont feed me, i tried 500 and it shot up to 800". So im confused. She definitely looks like she needs something!!
I reckon im over the worst of the nute toxicity but i really helping getting her back to health!
Cheers!
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I run my nute between 800-1900 ppm in cycle for mature plant with no adverse effect (no sign of deficiency or toxicity). It seems to me your plant is showing manganese deficiency...have you tried starting your ph at 5.5-5.8 and let it swing upward?
 
shiva71

shiva71

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Cheers Xs. Interesting you run high ppm, lots of people saying much lower, around 600 or so. Im at 500 and i expect it to go up cos she looks really hungry for something.
No ive not tried that. How would that help? I keep it around 6 but wonder if it would help nute absorbtion if i went higher or lower...?
Fresh rez and up 100ppm a day seems to be slowly working, fingers crossed i find the right ppm (and eliminate what deficiency she has) soon ...
Cheers
 
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ANC

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Here is the thing about DWC... Once you fuck up, you may as well start over.
It takes longer for the plant to recover than it would to just grow a new healthy plant to the same size.

Cannabis grows better at a slight nutrient deficiency than being slightly overfed.
 
Xs121

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shiva71 said:
Cheers Xs. Interesting you run high ppm, lots of people saying much lower, around 600 or so. Im at 500 and i expect it to go up cos she looks really hungry for something.
No ive not tried that. How would that help? I keep it around 6 but wonder if it would help nute absorbtion if i went higher or lower...?
Fresh rez and up 100ppm a day seems to be slowly working, fingers crossed i find the right ppm (and eliminate what deficiency she has) soon ...
Cheers
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Your plant problem indicate problem with micro elements(immobile nutrients). It does look like problem with Sulphur and or iron deficiency but at ph 6 you shouldn't have problem absorbing those elements. However, at ph 6 and above you lockout manganese. Manganese absorption is from 5.8 and below. Check out what Manganese deficiency looks like.

As to high ppm or low ppm, it doesn't matter what's your ppm (IMO), what is important is the right amount of the individual elements at the right time. So, if a plant requires a high dosage of each element at such period of time then obviously you will be feeding it with high ppm. The trick in feeding is knowing when to give it full strength and when to lower the dosage. A lot of people feed in a constant ppm, I don't, I feed in a cycle of high and low.

:peace:
 
rkymtnman

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shiva71 said:
I went up to 500ppm yesterday and she didnt like it
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don't be in such a hurry.
if it's eating at 300, it's not going to eat more at 500. it doesnt work that way.

if you have 4 hamburgers on your plate, are you going to eat faster if there is 8 hamburgers instead?
 
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