Nothing dumber than a flat earther

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SPLFreak808

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Yeah.. That must be the reason, even though the same thing would happen on both models of earth..

Were you ever taught to include relevancy with your arguments or nah? I mean, were only talking about the most important thing in all existence why half ass it? OH nvmd, i know why.
 

abalonehx

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I just happened to be reading about different religions and denominations of Christianity today, various Wiki entries on the subject, including
the ones on Pentecostalism which led me to some interesting things I didn't previously know. That sect was started late 1800's by a man named Charles Fox Parham from Kansas along with a black man, his student, William Seymour, the son of emancipated slaves. Parham was later involved in a scandal of allegations relating to him of sexual misconduct and being a homosexual which he and his followers denied and said he was framed by Wilbur Voliva, head of the Christian Catholic Church of Zion, Illinois. Voliva had complete control over the community of Zion with 6,000 followers and owned all the real estate and even dictated who married whom. Anyone from rival sects where ran out of town. He lived a lavish lifestyle off the backs of his followers and was worth $5 million by 1927 ($72 million today). This eventually alienated all his followers at the beginning of the great depression and led to his downfall.

Anyway, he was also a flat earther and it made me think of this thread.

From Wikipedia:
From 1914, Voliva gained nationwide notoriety by his vigorous advocacy of the flat earth doctrine. He offered a widely publicized $5000 challenge for anyone to disprove the flat earth theory. The church schools in Zion taught the flat earth doctrine. In 1923 Voliva became the first evangelical preacher in the world to own his own radio station, which could be heard as far away as Australia. His radio station broadcast his diatribes against round earth astronomy, and the evils of evolution. He was quoted about the sun as follows:

"The idea of a sun millions of miles in diameter and 91,000,000 miles away is silly. The sun is only 32 miles across and not more than 3,000 miles from the earth. It stands to reason it must be so. God made the sun to light the earth, and therefore must have placed it close to the task it was designed to do. What would you think of a man who built a house in Zion and put the lamp to light it in Kenosha, Wisconsin?"

He became increasingly focused on destroying the 'trinity of evils': modern astronomy, evolution and higher criticism, insisting on a strict interpretation of 24-hour days for creation and travelling to Dayton, Tennessee, to appear as a witness at the Scopes trial (he wasn't called). Voliva also predicted the end of the world would come in 1923, 1927, 1930, 1934 and 1935.

 

doniawon

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I just happened to be reading about different religions and denominations of Christianity today, various Wiki entries on the subject, including
the ones on Pentecostalism which led me to some interesting things I didn't previously know. That sect was started late 1800's by a man named Charles Fox Parham from Kansas along with a black man, his student, William Seymour, the son of emancipated slaves. Parham was later involved in a scandal of allegations relating to him of sexual misconduct and being a homosexual which he and his followers denied and said he was framed by Wilbur Voliva, head of the Christian Catholic Church of Zion, Illinois. Voliva had complete control over the community of Zion with 6,000 followers and owned all the real estate and even dictated who married whom. Anyone from rival sects where ran out of town. He lived a lavish lifestyle off the backs of his followers and was worth $5 million by 1927 ($72 million today). This eventually alienated all his followers at the beginning of the great depression and led to his downfall.

Anyway, he was also a flat earther and it made me think of this thread.

From Wikipedia:
From 1914, Voliva gained nationwide notoriety by his vigorous advocacy of the flat earth doctrine. He offered a widely publicized $5000 challenge for anyone to disprove the flat earth theory. The church schools in Zion taught the flat earth doctrine. In 1923 Voliva became the first evangelical preacher in the world to own his own radio station, which could be heard as far away as Australia. His radio station broadcast his diatribes against round earth astronomy, and the evils of evolution. He was quoted about the sun as follows:

"The idea of a sun millions of miles in diameter and 91,000,000 miles away is silly. The sun is only 32 miles across and not more than 3,000 miles from the earth. It stands to reason it must be so. God made the sun to light the earth, and therefore must have placed it close to the task it was designed to do. What would you think of a man who built a house in Zion and put the lamp to light it in Kenosha, Wisconsin?"

He became increasingly focused on destroying the 'trinity of evils': modern astronomy, evolution and higher criticism, insisting on a strict interpretation of 24-hour days for creation and travelling to Dayton, Tennessee, to appear as a witness at the Scopes trial (he wasn't called). Voliva also predicted the end of the world would come in 1923, 1927, 1930, 1934 and 1935.

He sold snake oils too. Smart feller
 

Beachwalker

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I just happened to be reading about different religions and denominations of Christianity today, various Wiki entries on the subject, including
the ones on Pentecostalism which led me to some interesting things I didn't previously know. That sect was started late 1800's by a man named Charles Fox Parham from Kansas along with a black man, his student, William Seymour, the son of emancipated slaves. Parham was later involved in a scandal of allegations relating to him of sexual misconduct and being a homosexual which he and his followers denied and said he was framed by Wilbur Voliva, head of the Christian Catholic Church of Zion, Illinois. Voliva had complete control over the community of Zion with 6,000 followers and owned all the real estate and even dictated who married whom. Anyone from rival sects where ran out of town. He lived a lavish lifestyle off the backs of his followers and was worth $5 million by 1927 ($72 million today). This eventually alienated all his followers at the beginning of the great depression and led to his downfall.

Anyway, he was also a flat earther and it made me think of this thread.

From Wikipedia:
From 1914, Voliva gained nationwide notoriety by his vigorous advocacy of the flat earth doctrine. He offered a widely publicized $5000 challenge for anyone to disprove the flat earth theory. The church schools in Zion taught the flat earth doctrine. In 1923 Voliva became the first evangelical preacher in the world to own his own radio station, which could be heard as far away as Australia. His radio station broadcast his diatribes against round earth astronomy, and the evils of evolution. He was quoted about the sun as follows:

"The idea of a sun millions of miles in diameter and 91,000,000 miles away is silly. The sun is only 32 miles across and not more than 3,000 miles from the earth. It stands to reason it must be so. God made the sun to light the earth, and therefore must have placed it close to the task it was designed to do. What would you think of a man who built a house in Zion and put the lamp to light it in Kenosha, Wisconsin?"

He became increasingly focused on destroying the 'trinity of evils': modern astronomy, evolution and higher criticism, insisting on a strict interpretation of 24-hour days for creation and travelling to Dayton, Tennessee, to appear as a witness at the Scopes trial (he wasn't called). Voliva also predicted the end of the world would come in 1923, 1927, 1930, 1934 and 1935.

What a coincidence!?

"He became increasingly focused on destroying the 'trinity of evils': modern astronomy, evolution and higher criticism, insisting on a strict interpretation of 24-hour days for creation and travelling to Dayton, Tennessee, to appear as a witness at the Scopes trial (he wasn't called). Voliva also predicted the end of the world would come in 1923, 1927, 1930, 1934 and 1935."

I'm increasingly focused on destroying things!? I insist on strict things, sometimes (not often), I've been to Dayton (Ohio) and I named my monkey "Scopes" Coincidence? I think not..!

And I predict the world ends in 2060, same date as Sir Isaac Newton (your hero of majic gravity, you believe his gravity voo-doo but forget about his theological teachings, you didn't even know he was a theist did you Jimmy?), the coincidences are mind-boggling..! :roll:
 

doniawon

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Hm, that's not on the wikipedia page. Wouldn't surprise me though.
But NASA is BS? hm.
Wrong feller.
I was wrong. Never heard of Wilbur Voliva. Checked him out last night.
Voliva map is amazing.
Thanks for posting that!!.
Excited to spend the am, checking out his videos, articles etc. Ahead of his time.
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Rrog

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When is Flat Earth going to be classified as a medical condition? It’s debilitating, embarrassing, you hide this from people because people see you as insane. Must be lonely being so crazy.

If insurance saw this as a bonafide illness, maybe you could get help. You could get a special ward at the nut house. They could give you a flat earth globe so you’ll calm down during your stay.

Maybe they could even give you 3-5th grade science classes again, as you skipped all those classes with friends while you sniffed spray paint behind the grade school
 

outliergenetix

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i saw this thread, as well as it's equal in the force. i was gonna make my own thread, but i will post this on both instead. basically i'd like to demonstrate that while the debate of ideas is progress, committing to them is foolishness.

i consider myself an agnostic in all things if you will. only a fool says he knows anything and it's a bigger fool who agrees with him carries the flag into battle against the equally moronic opposing half. see the universe is a dichotomy in all thing. because of this morons on either side of any science or religion argument who believe they are correct are in fact the very life force of that thing they disagree with, you are not interested in dialogue anymore and thus become the opposing forces that perpetuates your oppositions very existence, thus neither side nor the issue they conceived can exist without each other. the smart lie somewhere in between. i believe the star wars quote from the lore says something about using the grey to resolve the truth or something, but i will cite a bad religion song...
Don't tell me about the answer
Cause then another one will come along soon
I don't believe you have the answer
I've got ideas, too
But if you've got enough naivety
And you've got conviction
Then the answer is perfect for you

--the only thing that is certain is change and that itself is may even be just a matter of perspective
 
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outliergenetix

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Don’t double post - especially drivel
it's not my fault the ppl i am addressing have divided themselves into two threads, so head your own advice maybe ;) oh originator of all this drivel.
if you mean dbl post in same thread i didn't. idk why that is above your comment tbh. i have been doing other things not even on this thread till i saw you replied
 
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