Nitro defiency? Help needed!

coreywebster said:

Sounds like a very bad combo. I imagine a good flush with PHd water would do them good, get rid of that salt build up, then resume with a light feed. It may well be worth using a wetting agent too to combat any hydrophobic areas in the medium.
I believe a tiny amount of dish soap can be used as wetting agent but would prefer a second opinion from @whitebb2727 on that since its not something I have ever had to contend with. Would rather be wrong and told so than assume I'm right and pass on bad advice.

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If you read the thread I already suggested the drop of soap.
Basically is is a combination of problems. Dry soil. Salt build up leading to locking out N. All the while having the look of N tox with a touch of a ph problem. Also needing a touch of P and K.

I also thought n tox the to the color but its genetic.

I suggested to thoroughly water with ph water several times and then to feed with a well balanced feed.


You pretty much asked for a second opinion on the things I already said. Lol. Its all good bro.

I think it will get better. I doubt the yellow will reverse.

Easts side grower said:

They are at 5-6 there is no vertical streach so far but but should i keep feeding n on top of p k?

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Yes. I prefer a balanced feed all the way through. Lime a 5-5-5 or 10-10-10. The numbers can be off a bit but try for a balanced feed. They respond better.

When I use synthetics I like dynagro foliage pro.

You can get a sample pack for the cost of shipping.

Just contact them. Call or email.

http://dyna-gro.com/contact



It is a 9-3-6. It has all macro and micro nutrients. It is great for fixing deficiencies at 1 ml a gal. It has the instructions for that and different feedings on it. It is a one part.

If using a bottle nute I would use it.

Otherwise go water only organic soil.

I know its a 9-3-6 but its great start to finish.

whitebb2727 said:

I know its a 9-3-6 but its great start to finish.

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u use this as only nute and from start to finish??

Easts side grower said:

u use this as only nute and from start to finish??

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When I use synthetics. I grow organic. I've grown a number of plants with it. I still use it on a variety of plants.

That stuff has every macro (NPK) and all the micro nutrients. It has everything a plant needs.

Its good stuff.

For less than 20 bucks you get a quart of the foliage pro, quart of protekt(silica) and a few pints of different things.

coreywebster said:

Sounds like a very bad combo. I imagine a good flush with PHd water would do them good, get rid of that salt build up, then resume with a light feed. It may well be worth using a wetting agent too to combat any hydrophobic areas in the medium.
I believe a tiny amount of dish soap can be used as wetting agent but would prefer a second opinion from @whitebb2727 on that since its not something I have ever had to contend with. Would rather be wrong and told so than assume I'm right and pass on bad advice.

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i flushed em with the tab water phed to 6.3 , its been 2 days and the symptoms are not getting worse, i ll feed 1:4 strength next watering
Thx for the help mate!

whitebb2727 said:

When I use synthetics. I grow organic. I've grown a number of plants with it. I still use it on a variety of plants.

That stuff has every macro (NPK) and all the micro nutrients. It has everything a plant needs.

Its good stuff.

For less than 20 bucks you get a quart of the foliage pro, quart of protekt(silica) and a few pints of different things.

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Sounds like something that works wonder! What do you mean by growing organically tho? I thought when u do that u add all orangic compoud to the soil and then just water with no nute! I m new and a bit confused.. i consider my grow oraganic too because i only used natural compost and perlite with orgainc nutes...
forgive my noobiness mate!

Easts side grower said:

Sounds like something that works wonder! What do you mean by growing organically tho? I thought when u do that u add all orangic compoud to the soil and then just water with no nute! I m new and a bit confused.. i consider my grow oraganic too because i only used natural compost and perlite with orgainc nutes...
forgive my noobiness mate!

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Nothing from a bottle is organic. I grow water only organic soil I miss myself. I just ment that I have grown with synthetics before and occasionally still do.

I didn't mean the dynagro was organic. I wouldn't consider the stuff you are using organic either.

whitebb2727 said:

When I use synthetics. I grow organic.

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i 100% misinterpreted that sentece, i thought u meant u use these synthetics when u grow organically lol

Easts side grower said:

i 100% misinterpreted that sentece, i thought u meant u use these synthetics when u grow organically lol

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My bad. A couple post up I better explained it.

whitebb2727 said:

My bad. A couple post up I better explained it.

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Hey my trees have beening respounding well after watering in ur method, thx a Ton for that!

Here are new symptoms i m having trouble sorted out, could u lend a hand brother?





This is the one that got worse interms of getting dots and stuff...

I really want to solve this ptoblem because i lost a bunch of yield When the leaves tuned brown and dry during early flower phase.

They are at week 6, do u think 2 more weeks will be enough to harvest? Then guidance says 7 weeks after getmination.

Thx a ton again bro!

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Hey my trees have beening respounding well after watering in ur method, thx a Ton for that!

Here are new symptoms i m having trouble sorted out, could u lend a hand brother?

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This is the one that got worse interms of getting dots and stuff...

I really want to solve this ptoblem because i lost a bunch of yield When the leaves tuned brown and dry during early flower phase.

They are at week 6, do u think 2 more weeks will be enough to harvest? Then guidance says 7 weeks after getmination.

Thx a ton again bro!

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You're welcome.
If it doesn't spread I wouldn't worry. Sometimes it takes a few days for the damage to finish when you correct a problem. Those bottoms will continue and fall off.

I still think they need a bit of P and K and possibly a touch of cal/mag.

whitebb2727 said:

You're welcome.
If it doesn't spread I wouldn't worry. Sometimes it takes a few days for the damage to finish when you correct a problem. Those bottoms will continue and fall off.

I still think they need a bit of P and K and possibly a touch of cal/mag.

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Hey the yellowing is continued and some pots showed, i ll post a pic.

whitebb2727 said:

You're welcome.
If it doesn't spread I wouldn't worry. Sometimes it takes a few days for the damage to finish when you correct a problem. Those bottoms will continue and fall off.

I still think they need a bit of P and K and possibly a touch of cal/mag.

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Hey buddy sorry for bugging for u so much but u seem the most kowledgebale on this topic. Few questions：
1. Is it normal for the leaves to start yellowing at this stage, age 6?

2. Does it show any difiency?

3. Any other symptoms?

Thx my ton, u saved lives bro

That soil still looks dry.

You can go back to feeding them.

Once damage or mistakes made they continue to get worse for a few days even when the problem is corrected.

The damage is done and just pay attention to new growth and apply what was learned to the next grow and it will be better.

I don't mean to give up on it either.

It is a combo of problems that added up to this.

It also looks to be deficient in one of the micro nutrients.

It may never be a pretty plant again.

I screw up myself. We all do.


I very well could be overlooking something. I think you are on the right track.

whitebb2727 said:

It is a combo of problems that added up to this.

It also looks to be deficient in one of the micro nutrients.

It may never be a pretty plant again.

I screw up myself. We all do.


I very well could be overlooking something. I think you are on the right track.

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yes from ur help and some research the tree is slowly getting better! Its also feeding day today, i watered with no nute last time following ir water/ nute scheme. I ll put in half strength bloom and some micros and see how thy respond