News of the Warm

RetiredGuerilla

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Greenland and Alaskan glaciers are melting a foot a day. Europe is baking and people without air conditioning are dying yet millions of fat ass Americans wait in line at McDonalds with their engines running while some slacker tries to get their order correct. Americans are the world's energy hogs. So when this shit hits situation critical who deserves the brunt of it? :sad:
 

ttystikk

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I read something somewhere about the Gulfstream slowing down, in which the article predicted more extreme temperatures in Europe both in summer and winter. The same article said that the slowing was caused by fresh water melting off Greenland and interrupting the driver of the current; water gaining salinity and therefore density and dropping and thus needing more water to replace it, hence Gulfstream.

If this is the case, then record high temperatures recorded all over Greenland causing record melting is going to be seriously bad news for European weather going forward.
 

ttystikk

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The record high temps in Germany having adverse effects on the Silver Arrows this weekend. They didn't do well the last time we had a really hot F1 weekend either. Larger openings to let out hot air seems to hurt their aero package more than others.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.hamilton-mercedes-in-trouble-if-germany-stays-hot.6eGNuZgy8VMQHcMnua815D.html
Hot weather is not just hard on parts and cooling systems, it affects air density and therefore the ability to make power in ICE engines. Hot weather intensifies the effect of 'density altitude', a measure well known to pilots of aircraft.

This article discusses the impact of hot weather on flight operations. It's from a couple of years ago and it's about Phoenix but the point is clear;

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40339730

Red eye flights leaving late at night or very early mornings might be the way to go in the future.
 

too larry

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I read something somewhere about the Gulfstream slowing down, in which the article predicted more extreme temperatures in Europe both in summer and winter. The same article said that the slowing was caused by fresh water melting off Greenland and interrupting the driver of the current; water gaining salinity and therefore density and dropping and thus needing more water to replace it, hence Gulfstream.

If this is the case, then record high temperatures recorded all over Greenland causing record melting is going to be seriously bad news for European weather going forward.
The slow underwater currents have just as much of an impact on global weather as surface currents do. Salt transfer from ice formation in the high latitudes drives most of that movement.

I've heard that some models predict with enough ice melt in Greenland, the Gulf Stream will reverse and pull cold water into the gulf.
 

too larry

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Our planet’s climate may be more sensitive to increases in greenhouse gas than we realized, according to a new generation of global climate models being used for the next major assessment from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The findings—which run counter to a 40-year consensus—are a troubling sign that future warming and related impacts could be even worse than expected.

https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/New-Models-Point-More-Global-Warming-We-Expected?cm_ven=cat6-widget
 

too larry

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https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Baked-Alaska-State-Endures-Warmest-Month-Record?cm_ven=cat6-widget

July 2019 was the warmest month on record for the state of Alaska, smashing the previous record by almost one full degree Fahrenheit and leaving numerous local records for hottest day and warmest month in the superheated dust. Records for statewide average temperatures date back to 1925 (with partial data since the late 1880s). Four of the top 10 warmest single months on record (all Julys) has been set in just the past four years. This past June was also the second warmest June on record for the state (following June 2004).
 

too larry

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https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Bizarre-Happenings-Far-North-Lightning-Tropical-Moisture-and-More?cm_ven=cat6-widget

Bob Henson · August 14, 2019, 2:38 AM EDT


Above: In this image taken on Thursday, August 1, 2019, large rivers of melting water form on an ice sheet in western Greenland and drain into moulin holes that empty into the ocean from underneath the ice. The heat dome that smashed high temperature records in five European countries a week ago moved over Greenland in late July and early August, accelerating the melting of the island's ice sheet and causing massive ice loss in the Arctic.

Image credit: Caspar Haarløv, Into the Ice via AP.
 

too larry

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Where are we going and what are we doing in a handbasket?
When we lived in town, our next door neighbor worked with my wife. I had recorded a lot of GD CD's for her husband. She told me, "I really like that song, going to hell in a sidecar." Since then I've always thought of her when I hear this song.

{Some what climate related, but old neighbors now at Homestead. They go out into the glades to capture big snakes. Important work, but not keeping up with supply}

 

too larry

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Roger A. Shrubber

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this stuff has been going on since before humans existed. temperatures rise and fall naturally. we've had little ice ages and unusually warm periods in our recorded history.
there have just never been 7.5 billion of us on the planet before....we have a major impact on the natural cycles. we dump tons of pollutants into the atmosphere daily, we clear cut huge swaths of land, which raises the ambient temperature in those areas. we change water courses and create artificial bodies of water.....and we are surprised that all of this is happening....¿...wonder how surprised they'll be in 20-30 years when most of the coast lines on the entire planet are ocean bottom.....
 
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