Newb Closet Coco Grow, 400w MH+HPS

mared juwan

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Nice, Tetra. You got my business. For the Advanced Nutrients Ph down it looks like it's cheaper to buy three 4 liters than one 10 liter. Is this right? I only need one 4 liter, I'm just curious.
 

mared juwan

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Update: I gave some nutes on back to back waterings instead of my usual plain water every other time. Plants did not like that. I saw the beginnings of the dreaded rust spots on some of the newer leaf tips and flushed immediately. Other than that nothing to report since the last installment of pics except that these suckers crank out a new leaf set every day. Check it out. Day 19
 

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TetraHyC

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Nice, Tetra. You got my business. For the Advanced Nutrients Ph down it looks like it's cheaper to buy three 4 liters than one 10 liter. Is this right? I only need one 4 liter, I'm just curious.
Never used AN up and down, have heard they are very strong.
 

TetraHyC

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This store is on the same block as two cannabis clubs, handy location, No worries from the law.
 

mared juwan

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So I think I made another mistake. Well I know I made a mistake but I think I know what it is. After flushing I didn't feed again for 36 hours. Lower leaves have gone from burn to signs of multiple deficiencies. Looks like combo of nitrogen, phosphorus and calcium defs. I gave 1 mL/L each of A & B so as not to shock the plants (I really don't want burn again) and also a foliar feeding of .5 mL/L. The leaves have stopped getting worse but it looks like they will eventually be toast like the burn victims. I hope you guys ship quick, Tetra - I have a feeling that ppm meter will help me out a lot. Need to turn my frown upside down.
 

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regrets

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hey, man first time checking out your grow. It looks like you've done pretty good so far, but it seems like you ma be suffering from a bit of overcare at the moment. try to get yourself down to every3 day watering, get a hold the right feeding schedule for your ladies and don't overreact to minor problems. just take a breath step back and let them work through things on there own. Alot of people freak out immediately after 1 or 2 days of small deficiencies or burns, and immediately feed or flush. Your plants will work through most small problems on their own without the added stress of you constantly changing their schedule. I mean absoluely no offense here but it seems like you are trying too hard to take good care of them, and it is not always necessary or healthy Good luck with your grow, and sorry for rambling.
 

mared juwan

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hey, man first time checking out your grow. It looks like you've done pretty good so far, but it seems like you ma be suffering from a bit of overcare at the moment. try to get yourself down to every3 day watering, get a hold the right feeding schedule for your ladies and don't overreact to minor problems. just take a breath step back and let them work through things on there own. Alot of people freak out immediately after 1 or 2 days of small deficiencies or burns, and immediately feed or flush. Your plants will work through most small problems on their own without the added stress of you constantly changing their schedule. I mean absoluely no offense here but it seems like you are trying too hard to take good care of them, and it is not always necessary or healthy Good luck with your grow, and sorry for rambling.
Thanks for the advice. I think most of my problem is that I haven't been able to get on a regular schedule with them. Don't worry, though. I just got the new Grand Theft Auto and it looks like my plants/girlfriend will definitely not be overcared for in the next couple weeks, lol. This game is ridiculous.
 

mared juwan

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Yeah, I'm only about an hour into the game. I'm still amazed by all the new features and graphics. But back to my plants, do you have a lot of experience with coco? It seems some people treat it more like soil, some like hydro. I've also heard that if you treat it like soil from the getgo, the plants never develop hydro roots so you have to keep treating it like soil. Don't know how true that is. I've just been sticking to never let the coco dry out completely. Of course "dry" is very subjective. When I pick up the plant and it feels really light, then I water.
 

regrets

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don't have any experience with coco. But moisture meters are very inexpensive (under $10) at most gardening shops or home centers, and they work very well, for soil atleast; Their is probably I easy way to use them for coco as well. This would give you a bit of a better measure than the lift test. Some plants love excessive watering and some plants would prefer to grow near a desert, it will just take you a bit of time to feel out the specific pheno's of your particular strain. Just learn to listen to your plants, and don't overreact to their challenges. Just like wind (or a fan) is good to stress the plants stem for growth, a less than perfect environment can build your plants immunities to over/under watering and other stresses. I hope you get all the info you need from this site and any other wources you use. Good luck again.
 

UserFriendly

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You don't need a moisture meter to know when to water your plants. Lifting is the way to go.

Mared, those leaves are huge! If that's the worst you can do, you're well on your way my friend. The tds meter will help iron out the wrinkles. After a few grows, you probably won't need it anymore.
 

TetraHyC

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Listen to User, your plants look good, the lime green is not a prob. N. is a mobile nute, it can move back into the leaves, Its the def. from non-mobile nutes that really hurt.

You are doing very well for your first time.
 

Kindbuds262

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Quick tip dude, dont use the viniger and baking soda, im assuming you picked it up for ph balancing, but those products do more harm than good.
 

TetraHyC

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Since I haven't jacked you're thread with any of my pics yet, here goes........

.......supercropped and tied down.
Your into B&D, User.

Vinegar is ok, acetic acid, Baking soda NaHCO3, Sodium is poison for Mary.

I was thinking Mared you say your a starving student, wants your major??
Take chem, I did at silly college, just to help my growing, you can use the credits anyway.
 

TetraHyC

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So I think I made another mistake. Well I know I made a mistake but I think I know what it is. After flushing I didn't feed again for 36 hours. Lower leaves have gone from burn to signs of multiple deficiencies. Looks like combo of nitrogen, phosphorus and calcium defs. I gave 1 mL/L each of A & B so as not to shock the plants (I really don't want burn again) and also a foliar feeding of .5 mL/L. The leaves have stopped getting worse but it looks like they will eventually be toast like the burn victims. I hope you guys ship quick, Tetra - I have a feeling that ppm meter will help me out a lot. Need to turn my frown upside down.
I don't know who was more stoned:joint:,I don't own it,I just go there.
The owner is a real salesman:twisted:, if you know how to work a salesman your ok(perm 25%off), if not, well shall we say "like lambs:dunce: to the slaughter"

This guy got worked.:mrgreen:
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/70540-warning-hydro-store.html
 

UserFriendly

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I don't know who was more stoned:joint:,I don't own it,I just go there.
The owner is a real salesman:twisted:, if you know how to work a salesman your ok(perm 25%off), if not, well shall we say "like lambs:dunce: to the slaughter"

This guy got worked.:mrgreen:
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/70540-warning-hydro-store.html
Haha, If these people would do just a little reading, they wouldn't have to worry about this stuff. It isn't like this is a cheap hobby anyway. I've spent a lot of money just trying out new things. These people gotta suck it up.
 
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