New To Vegetarian Cooking

stumps

stumps

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Johnnyorganic said:
Your post had more than one point. All of which I understood.

Yes, you offered recipes, including Bar-B-Que :finger:. But what you don't seem to realize is that as a meateater vegetables will always be nothing more than a side dish to you. Many meateaters include meat in vegetable dishes for 'flavor.' I suspect your recipes will reflect that lack of imagination. In other words, you just don't get it.

I changed my avi back to what it was before the holiday. Here it is for posterity.

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As a meat eater your right. I don't think of veggies as a main course. But as someone that spent a good part of his life in a kitchen. I can say your full of shit. As much as would like to bash your views, thats not why I posted here. So anyone wanting Ideas just ask. One more thing. Does it help if I say open fire cooking not bbq.
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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stumps said:
As a meat eater your right. I don't think of veggies as a main course. But as someone that spent a good part of his life in a kitchen. I can say your full of shit. As much as would like to bash your views, thats not why I posted here. So anyone wanting Ideas just ask. One more thing. Does it help if I say open fire cooking not bbq.
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Bash away, but please start another thread.

My aunt has spent a lot of time in the kitchen, too. But her idea of vegetarian is 'has vegetables on it.' She does not get it.

Why does McDonald's add beef extract to french fries? They don't get it.

And neither do you, bbq-boy. :dunce:
 
stumps

stumps

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Sounds like you need to turn up the power. Your bulb is a little dim. As for your aunt. I'll bet I've fed more people in a momth then she will in her life time. As for not getting it. I don't get Jew's or east indian people But have cooked for them many time's. I do get the fact I like passing on things I've learned. If you've never tried grilled veggies on a open fire your missing out.
 
SmokeyMcChokey

SmokeyMcChokey

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Roseman said:
And the longest living mamals like the BLUE WHALE eats plankon and is a vegetarian.
Elephants live a long time too and theya re vegetarians.
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noi offense or anything but isnt krill and plankton a living being? just pointing that one out if your not gunna eat fish you shouldnt eat plankton.
 
SmokeyMcChokey

SmokeyMcChokey

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Johnnyorganic said:
Tomato-Basil Risotto

Ingredients:
8 c. vegetable broth
1/4 c. margarine
1/4 c. chopped onion
3 c. chopped plum tomatoes
2 c. Arborio rice
1/4 c. chopped fresh basil, or 1½ Tbs. dried
1/4 c. grated Parmesan cheese (optional)
1/4 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. pepper

Directions:
Cook broth in a saucepan over medium heat until hot. Melt 2 tbsp. butter in large Dutch oven over med-high heat; add onion, and cook 2 minutes, stirring constantly. Add tomato; cook 2 minutes, stirring constantly. Add rice; cook 5 minutes. Reduce heat to medium. Add broth, 1/2 c. at a time, stirring constantly; allow rice to absorb liquid before adding more broth. Stir in remaining 2 tbsp. butter, chopped basil, and remaining ingredients. Makes 5 cups.
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yummmmmmmm my mom makes a tomato and artichoke risotto. do you guys eat dairy? not going to say anything smart just curious.
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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Artichoke Pasta
(Makes 4-6 servings)

INGREDIENTS
1/2 pound pasta shells, wagon wheels, bow ties, etc.
2-3 cloves fresh garlic, minced
1 14-ounce can artichoke hearts, quartered, drained and rough-chopped into large pieces
½ cup mixed chopped olives
1/2 cup shredded parmesan cheese (optional)
4 tablespoons olive oil
2 tablespoons lemon juice
1 teaspoon red pepper flakes
1/2 teaspoon sea salt
1/2 teaspoon ground black pepper

PREPARATION
1. Cook pasta until al dente and drain.
2. Heat the olive oil in a skillet, and sauté the red pepper and garlic for 2-4 minutes.
3. Add artichokes, olives and sauté a couple minutes more.
4. Toss the pasta with the sautéed vegetables, lemon juice, salt, black pepper and parmesan.

SmokeyMcChokey said:
yummmmmmmm my mom makes a tomato and artichoke risotto. do you guys eat dairy? not going to say anything smart just curious.
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Good question. When it comes to dairy; some do, some don't.

I don't eat anything that comes off of or out of an animal.
 
weedyweedy

weedyweedy

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I tried going vegan a couple years ago but realised that it's not very healthy. I think we still need a little animal fat in our diet somehow. Which is why I still have to incorporate eggs and dairy in my diet and go vegetarian instead of vegan.
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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weedyweedy said:
I tried going vegan a couple years ago but realised that it's not very healthy. I think we still need a little animal fat in our diet somehow. Which is why I still have to incorporate eggs and dairy in my diet and go vegetarian instead of vegan.
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Complete horseshit.

Have I met unhealthy vegetarians? Yes. But they are what I would describe as french fry vegetarians. In other words, they were unhealthy meat eaters who simply stopped eating meat. They did not stop the unhealthy eating practices.

A strict vegetarian diet is completely healthy. No animal products required. If you have some proof indicating otherwise, I would love to see it.

If you choose ovo-lacto vegetarian, or any other hyphenated vegetarian option, that's great for you.

I've been a strict vegetarian since 2001 and have not looked back.
 
Roseman

Roseman

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It is more difficult telling someone about Vegetarism than it is telling them about GOD.
 
hippietoker18

hippietoker18

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most veggie burgers are awesome but there are some horrible ones out there. tofu has a bad name but it's really good putting it in soups and stuff. i make all different types of soup broths and add tofu and veggies and it's filling, healthy, and tastes great.

my weekness is chinese food and i always get like vegetable lo mien and vegetable fried rice. i know its not the healthiest stuff but damn i could live off it haha.

good luck
 
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Michael Phelps

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weedyweedy said:
I tried going vegan a couple years ago but realised that it's not very healthy. I think we still need a little animal fat in our diet somehow. Which is why I still have to incorporate eggs and dairy in my diet and go vegetarian instead of vegan.
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Being vegan isnt unhealthy if its done right.

I was "vegan" for 5 years, as long as you take supplements and know how to mix your meals to get the correct vitamins you will be fine!

But, it has to be done the right way, if not i completely agree that it is unhealthy.
 
dontexist21

dontexist21

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Roseman said:
The longest living reptiles on earth, those giant sea turtles, are vegetarians.
The longest living birds, parrots, are vegetarians.
And the longest living mamals like the BLUE WHALE eats plankon and is a vegetarian.
Elephants live a long time too and theya re vegetarians.

Meat eating animals, like the dog, or cat have a very short and straight digestive tract running from the mouth to the butt hole so the food exits quicker without building up harmful bacteria in the system. Meat eating animals also have teeth designed for eating meat and tearing it apart.
Vegetarian animals have a long and windey colon and digestive tract so the food stays in longer. And they do not have "meating eating " teeth. Considering all of that, humans are not meant to be meat eaters.

And when a wild meat eating animal like a lion or wolf kills and eats a vegetarian animal, they forst go to the stomach and intestiens and eats that animal's stomach contents and other organs.
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I actually have to disagree with you on the fact that the only reason humans evolved to have such a complex brain was because of their ability to eat meat. Plants just did not have the calories that would have allowed for our brains to evolve. We are designed to eat meat, just when you stop eating meat for awhile your body needs to be weened in again to break it down. The oldest living people alive are not vegetarian they all ate meat. Its just how much you eat, and are active.

Try looking at African cooking, my family is African, 70% of our food is actually vegan. I myself do not understand being vegetarian, I could easily to it. Just meat is way to tasty and I am most likely healthier then most vegetarians. I refuse to take supplements when I can just eat food. Everything in moderation. The problem with American meat is that it is made from sick animals. I try to eat more fish, but that has mercury, dammit can't win it all. It is all a personal choice in the end, the healthiest diet is actually one one based on seafood, fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and some lean meats such as deer and chicken,
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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dontexist21 said:
I actually have to disagree with you on the fact that the only reason humans evolved to have such a complex brain was because of their ability to eat meat. Plants just did not have the calories that would have allowed for our brains to evolve. We are designed to eat meat, just when you stop eating meat for awhile your body needs to be weened in again to break it down. The oldest living people alive are not vegetarian they all ate meat. Its just how much you eat, and are active.

Try looking at African cooking, my family is African, 70% of our food is actually vegan. I myself do not understand being vegetarian, I could easily to it. Just meat is way to tasty and I am most likely healthier then most vegetarians. I refuse to take supplements when I can just eat food. Everything in moderation. The problem with American meat is that it is made from sick animals. I try to eat more fish, but that has mercury, dammit can't win it all. It is all a personal choice in the end, the healthiest diet is actually one one based on seafood, fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and some lean meats such as deer and chicken,
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Where to begin? I'll start at the top.

The big brain myth. Our ancestors brains grew when they climbed down from trees and started walking around on two legs. If your theory held any water; lions, tigers, and bears would be the smartest creatures on the planet.

Meat consumption is tied to longevity? Whatever. Consider a few lifestyle diseases related to the consumption of meat. Heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, obesity, and cancer. I've never seen a medical study encouraging people to eat more meat, but I have seen plenty advocating more fruits, grains and vegetables.

Vegetarianism is easy. The hardest part is trying to eat in a world of meat eaters. But I do not believe you could easily do it because as you yourself stated, you do not understand it. You have convinced yourself that diseased and decaying animal flesh actually tastes good. If it tastes so good why don't you eat it raw?

Vegetarians do not require supplements. LOL! In fact, I have never met a vegetarian who takes supplements, but I do know a few meat eaters who do.

But you are correct on one point, it is a personal choice.
 
stumps

stumps

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I think it's funny when you talk about the rotting flesh thing. I feel the same way about most veggies. I don't disagree that the high veggie diet is the better way to go. My health would improve a bunch if I could eat more veggies. I ate alot of beef raw when I was younger but like it a bit warmer now days.
 
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