New to COCO, wanna help?

Hi Diggs,
Nice sprouting results. The coco has essentially no nutrients so get use to providing them with everything. Starting now. The cotyledons won't carry them for very long. At that age I personallu use 1/8 strength nutes. Just something to sink their teetch in. lol And bump it up as they grow. When I say 1/8 this is what I mean. I use Maxi-grow which has a range of 1 to 2 tsp. I never use the 2 tsp dose ever. So 1 tsp per gal and then I dilute it down with phed water till I get the strength I want.
JD

JohnDee said:

Hi Diggs,
Nice sprouting results. The coco has essentially no nutrients so get use to providing them with everything. Starting now. The cotyledons won't carry them for very long. At that age I personallu use 1/8 strength nutes. Just something to sink their teetch in. lol And bump it up as they grow. When I say 1/8 this is what I mean. I use Maxi-grow which has a range of 1 to 2 tsp. I never use the 2 tsp dose ever. So 1 tsp per gal and then I dilute it down with phed water till I get the strength I want.
JD

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Hey jd thanks for the response bud.

I'm going to be using flora micro and flora bloom at 6/9ml per gallon eventually (h3ad formula)

So I was thinking maybe like .5ml micro and 1ml bloom to get them started. Aswell as 4ml calmag/ gallon.

At what stage are you starting to soak the cups? I'm still just using spray bottle yet. 4-5 times a day now it seems, they drying out the sprayed patches pretty quick

At the early cup stage I use a squirt bottle or a big plastic syringe so I have better control. Able to gently feed the nutes.

Hey guys, back with more questions lol


When i mix a Gallon of nutes for the babies, i mix it at 5.9 ph, usually get 2 waterings (24 hours) before it drifts outside the 6.2 range

My question, how long can that mix of nutes be used? few days? Can i just keep ph`ing it back in range after 2 days and the nutes still be viable for the plants? or should i be mixing much smaller batches and dumping it out once it drifts outside the 6.2?

Also, when should/could i start giving them amor si? and how do you mix that? ive heard growers adding the silica to water first and letting it sit for an hour or more before adding base nutes and additives and phing?

i hope this makes sense lol

Anyone know the answer to my above questions?

Cmon coco warriors lol

I don't want to screw this up lol

diggs99 said:

Anyone know the answer to my above questions?

Cmon coco warriors lol

I don't want to screw this up lol

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Diggs...that's hydro nutes right? Guys maintain reservoirs for weeks at a time. Just correct as needed. Not sure about rhe Armor Si...usually that stuff causes an upward drift. Careful with dose on the silica. More is definitely not better.
JD

diggs99 said:

Anyone know the answer to my above questions?

Cmon coco warriors lol

I don't want to screw this up lol

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What JohnDee said.
Upward drift is common.
I use .5 ml of Armor Si per Gallon.
Mix order I use....
RO water
------------
Silica
Cal mag
Epsom
Micro (Mega Crop in my case)
Grow
.....
I end up around 6.3
Then Ph down to 5.8ish.

(I dont bubble.)
I'm a bit anal maybe. I always mix/stir the res while adding each item separately.
Mixing very well and waiting a minute or two before adding the next.

Ph down. Instead of adding it last. When the amount of PH down needed is consistent batch after batch....I add the ph down first, before the silica.

You should be able to soak a solo until runoff. How often you can soak increases as the days go by.

How are they looking?
You hittin them with 3/4.5?

TintEastwood said:

You should be able to soak a solo until runoff. How often you can soak increases as the days go by.

How are they looking?
You hittin them with 3/4.5?

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Ya i started soaking the cups 2 days ago, they are probably taking 1/1.5 days to start drying.

They are doing well tho. i think lol

here they are, majority are 8 days old since sprouting.

JohnDee said:

Diggs...that's hydro nutes right? Guys maintain reservoirs for weeks at a time. Just correct as needed. Not sure about rhe Armor Si...usually that stuff causes an upward drift. Careful with dose on the silica. More is definitely not better.
JD

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Yes GH flora Micro and Bloom, along with GH amor si and GH Calimagic.

Thanks JD, i assumed so, but wanted to verify before i kept going lol

diggs99 said:

Yes GH flora Micro and Bloom, along with GH amor si and GH Calimagic.

Thanks JD, i assumed so, but wanted to verify before i kept going lol

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Yup those are hydro nutrients. I don't use them so just read the directions on the bottle...well except for dosage. Those are always too high. Being all GH I think it's safe to assume they will mix well.
JD

I just switched to COCO myself from FFHF and just holy cow.. i swear my plants seem to be growing twice the speed of my last ones. I also switched to Jacks 321 (was using FF growbig last grow) and no calmag (using separate cal and mag) so far coir has been amazing...

diggs99 said:

here they are, majority are 8 days old since sprouting.

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Looking good.
Oops. From seed. I thought you had small clones when I mentioned soaking and 3/4.5 for nute strength. That might be too hot.

Ya the first nute batch i made i used 1ml micro....1.5ml bloom....1.5ml calmagic per gallon

Second batch .25ml amor si....1.5ml micro....2.25ml bloom and 2ml calimagic per gallon.

I think they look pretty good. little bit of leaf twist on 1 or 2. but they all appear healthy.

3 cups have visible roots coming out the bottom holes already, i was very surprised to see that so quickly.

The space cookies tent is done, so while im waiting for my new lights to show up, im gonna change bulbs and stick these babies under the dimmable 600w MH

Curious, why are you using bloom?

icetech said:

Curious, why are you using bloom?

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H3ad formula or modified Lucas formula

6ml micro/9ml bloom throughout entire grow.

obv when they babies gotta start them at very low ppm, so im at 1.5 micro and 2.25 bloom so far.

thanks for putting this thread up diggs made me go for coco great read 2
I decided to go for a test run with the seeds I made last run just to try it out
and the advice ive seen in this thread is great thumbs up

Your welcome bud,

ya these guys are amazing, very knowledgeable and always there to help a fellow grower out.

@JohnDee @TintEastwood @gr865 to name a few

Makes life much easier when we have access to people like this.

diggs99 said:

Your welcome bud,

ya these guys are amazing, very knowledgeable and always there to help a fellow grower out.

@JohnDee @TintEastwood @gr865 to name a few

Makes life much easier when we have access to people like this.

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Lots of grow fun... when politics not involved! Lol
I forget where, but worth mentioning again even if redundant.
@JohnDee posted this awesome info on "DJM Coco Trees."
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=300255
@Renfro gets a big high five.