New School Organics with Professor Matt "Veganics" Rize

http://donelwood.com/benefits.html

"What Is Subtle Energy?

The word 'energy' brings to mind internal combustion engines, electrical power stations, and the work done in terms of how much "horse power" is produced. Other means of generating energy exist which are more subtle.

Our sun produces gravity, light, electromagnetic waves and radiation. Sunlight transforms into heat when it strikes a dark substance like soil. This heat warms our planet enough to support life. The moon produces gravity and light, which affects seed germination. Bird songs radiate music and sounds which stimulate germination, plant growth and vibration of leaf stomata. The earth's magnetic and crystal fields affect germination and plant growth. These types of energy are "givens"; that is, they are taken for granted as they are the very basis for the functions of all life on earth.

These are called subtle energies, but little effort is made to apply them, per se, in modern agriculture. They are passively accepted."

I didn't read the link in the previous post, but I've just been inspired. My curing jars will have a bed of small quartz pebbles in the bottom this year. I will sterilize them with hot water and then cleanse/charge them under cool running water.

karri0n said:

I didn't read the link in the previous post, but I've just been inspired. My curing jars will have a bed of small quartz pebbles in the bottom this year. I will sterilize them with hot water and then cleanse/charge them under cool running water.

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My crew is all about charging our quartz, we even go on quartz hunting trips. I like to let them sit in the sunshine in addition to rinsing for a deep charge. Back in college we all walked around with quartz in our pockets. Hippy shit yall. 'New school' organic energy manipulations.

Matt Rize said:

My crew is all about charging our quartz

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Ok this seriously just made my "ridiculous new age quote of the day". Ghetto and new age in one sentence.

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Matt Rize said:

My crew is all about charging our quartz, we even go on quartz hunting trips. I like to let them sit in the sunshine in addition to rinsing for a deep charge. Back in college we all walked around with quartz in our pockets. Hippy shit yall. 'New school' organic energy manipulations.

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Did that quartz in your pockets migrate up to your head?

"'New School' organic energy manipulations' Yeah, manipulating people like you out of mucho $$$$$$$.

35 years ago, it was 'pyramid power' and Ravi Shankar. Now, it's quartz crystals and Yanni.

Same esoteric BS, just in a new package for a new generation.

The older I get, the more I appreciate "Won't Get Fooled Again" by the Who.

Wet

ok well ive gotten 1.5 a light with NO co2 and connoissuer/bud candy and monsterbloom.
you might get under a pound a light if you strickly do organics. DO your organics outside where it is better off.
Im not gonna fix whats broken. do test groups but dont change anything if your getting amazing results.
organics/chems are only a small part of this. Its mostly light and temps and strains.
I have heard it all has to do with the first two weeks from rooting

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Ok this seriously just made my "ridiculous new age quote of the day". Ghetto and new age in one sentence.

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YES! What an apt description of what we do. Our quartz gathering expeditions also include: off roading, ridge running, burrell hunting, and free styling, all fueled by new school organic Cannabis. lol

What a day, and those scissor tricks really are winning favor with the trim crew. Each plant will be about a pound and a half. Grown using new school organics in the outdoors (liquid organics ect). Gotta love Cali weather, this year has been a breeze.


wet/smiles: ignored

SPEAKING OF NEW SCHOOL...

Yes, I have finally got both my flowers and bubble hash submitted for analysis. While submitting my samples I got to check out some of subcool's ganja. By which I mean GROWN BY THE SUB AND MZ JILL THEMSELVES! Greenhouse style! Very interesting assortment of flavors, I can't remember which one smelled like cream soda, but that was really cool. Uh...still my indoor veganic Blackberry Kush looks and smells better, but I may be biased and I spent way more to grow way less. Update on the results asap. Peas.

I'll start this post by saying that anyone arguing medicinal Cannabis facts with science and data is only bringing a weak argument at best. THE FACT is that the studies on Cannabis in the US have been performed with crappy 3% THC ditch weed grown in the sole source of federal Cannabis production. And international studies are also lacking due to prohibition. I mean seriously, they never tested the concentrates that we hard core Cannabis user are fond of.

Or have 'they'? and who is 'they'? Well 'they' used to represent the federal gov't. Now, with CA medical Cannabis, there has been an opportunity for independent laboratories to be established. Steep Hill lab being the best one I know about. They do the testing for the Cannabis Cup here and many names you would recognize, in addition to many dispensaries.

There has been no pre-established system for analyzing Cannabis and Cannabis products that is available to these labs, so they had to figure it out from scratch. The labs have grown 'organically' and independently using the information (aka as libraries in the GC/MS world) available on schedule 1 DRUGS. ARGH. They have developed Cannabinoid quantification, for the major players of the hundreds of molecules present in Cannabis trichomes. And they are working on heavy metal tests... which ties into new school organics and health concerns.

The medical facts are becoming more reliable, and the margin of error is officially 1.5% +/- but in reality they can get closer to .3% margin of error.

I have a few points that I want to make here.
A) THC is overvalued as medicine, it is the CBD/other cannabinoids and terpenes that hold the medicinal powers and that is not a characteristic being bred for generally. Highest CBD levels are around 9%, and those plants generally have lower THC than the low CBD strains.
B) THC over 25% in flowers is essentially impossible at this point. Even low twenties is rare. Those claims of crazy high THC as usually BS.
C) The best bubbles are as potent as any other super concentrate.
D)Thank 215 and some hardcore canna-nerd herb growers for the research.

BOOM

Matt Rize said:

My crew is into Azospirillum, a bacteria that fixes nitrogen out of the air. Anyone heard about this specie?

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/microbiology/2667

"Nitrogen fixation is not the major benefit Azospirillum can give to plants. When Azospirillum are placed on the roots of plants they have the ablity to increase the numbers of root hairs (from Iowa State University) on each root. These root hairs are important in helping the plant get water from the soil. This benefit the plant derives from its association with Azospirillum helps the plants do better in drier places.

Another benefit the plant gets from associating with Azospirillum is that the bacteria produce plant growth factors (auxins) that cause the plant to produce more roots. The better the root system, the stronger the plant. Stronger plants produce more food. The plants given Azospirillum are also as productive as heavily fertilized plants that do not have the Azospirillum added."

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how does that work out for u?
they say its not very consistent ...

Matt Rize said:

SPEAKING OF NEW SCHOOL...

Yes, I have finally got both my flowers and bubble hash submitted for analysis. While submitting my samples I got to check out some of subcool's ganja. By which I mean GROWN BY THE SUB AND MZ JILL THEMSELVES! Greenhouse style! Very interesting assortment of flavors, I can't remember which one smelled like cream soda, but that was really cool. Uh...still my indoor veganic Blackberry Kush looks and smells better, but I may be biased and I spent way more to grow way less. Update on the results asap. Peas.

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a little concede,arent u?

Matt Rize said:

And they surely did not test Cannabis. If you look you can find both sides to every argument. DO YOU SING OR PLAY MUSIC FOR YOUR CANNABIS?

My favorite herb at a local dispensary is grown by a mother/daughter team. They wear white robes and sing to the plants as the lights come on, every day. Their herb makes me happy, like none other. They also do all sorts of other hippy stuff that I plan on covering.

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i play bird chirps and reggae...


when do u explain the fruit roll-up storage?

moash said:

how does that work out for u?
they say its not very consistent ...

a little concede,arent u?

i play bird chirps and reggae...


when do u explain the fruit roll-up storage?

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I've never tried the Azo, will let you know what they say. I trust that: between the Bountea with root web, the HN myco madness, the great white, and the rhizotonic... i have already gone way overboard.

Sorry, yes, a bit more than a little. Plus, mine was way more cured, that makes a huge difference. His outdoor could easily be confused for indoor.

Chirps, I would say science or not, I love that. I've heard chirps open stomata in the morning. Same with the reggae, the one drop riddim is like a heart beat.

Fruit roll ups: up next just for you. There is no real trick. As you know: Great hash is made with patience from quality sugar leaf. Mature intact trichomes only.

Bubble hash tips and good times with Professor Matt "Veganics" Rize

To begin, I love concentrates, especially the highest quality bubble hashes. I also spend a large part of my time making bubble, and have tested many techniques and strains over the years.

There are some tips that I have come up with or learned about along the way, and some good times that I want to share. I'll start with the fun part.

GOOD TIMES:

Have you ever played hash hockey?

It is so much fun, especially when turned into a form of gambling. The idea is simple really. Get yourself one of those old school electric hockey games. You know what I am talking about...the little guys that spin and move back/forth on the field. Old School baby. Then make a puck out of some hash, consistency is CRUCIAL and you will learn what kinds of hash make a perfect puck. The winner takes the puck in a game to 11 or whatever. Enjoy! And watch out, that puck will FLY!

BUBBLE HASH MAKING TIPS:

First: It is all about the quality of the trichomes. Properly grown Cannabis flowers yield quality hash.

Second: Do not use infected/damaged materials to make hash (IMO).

Third: Is the debate on using fresh (still wet) trim versus using dried (and cured) trim. We'll get to that later. For now, use dried/cured trim, and let it soak for a good twenty minutes before beginning agitation.

Fourth: Is a slew of tricks I've learned for using the BubbleNowXL, more later: insulating the unit+

Fifth: Is the debate on which bags to use. It depends on strain and trichome size, but for now I'll say use the 45 micron as a catcher, the 120 (160 depending) as your second (cooking), and a 190 as your third to catch the garbage.

Sixth: get a quality pump sprayer that you will only use for water. Fill it full of ice water and use it to collect your trichomes.

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/367111-bubble-hash-tips-good-times-2.html

Pictured below is my full melt hash bowl. There are three holes around the top inside of the bowl that allow the smoke to be pulled into your bong/chalice. The bottom of the bowl is solid, like a dish. A glass rod is heated and then inserted into the bowl. The hash melts and turns to smoke, but the oily mess has nowhere to go because the bowl's holes are at the top. This allows smoking full melt hash with no metal screens or flowers in the mix. Pure and clean.

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/367111-bubble-hash-tips-good-times-2.html

I'll start with tips for using the BubbleNowXL:
-Wrap that b*tch with some kind of insulation. Crucial design flaw. An easy fix is to wrap your machine with one of those car window sun blocks, the shiny 'metal' looking ones.
-Temperature of tap water varies greatly, as I learned from a brewer. Something to keep in mind for several reasons.
-Store bought ice sucks. I have a whole article on that, soon to be posted.
-Temperature of the air affects the overall efficiency. Bubble early or late when it is hot out. Or bubble indoors and keep it cool.
-NEVER overfill the work bag, worst move ever. 3/4 full or less.
-The goal is to perform the spinning agitation at as cold of a temperature as possible. Start with ice in the machine, fill the bag with layers of ice/trim, zip and double knot, more ice. Now add water, but only about half way up. Next, turn the machine on, then slowly add more water until the contents barely begin to spin. You can help the bag find it's home in the ice/water mixture and the machine does the rest.
-Don't be afraid to take the screw out that holds the spinning disk in place. Clean down there once and a while.

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/367111-bubble-hash-tips-good-times-2.html

There are a few ways to make fruit roll up style hash.
The benefit of making/storing your hash in this manner are:
1) Easy to break a piece off, and then it is ready to melt
2) Minimal processing of the hash, no pressing/heating/tricks needed
3) Easy for dispensaries to judge the quality, consistency, melt. And thin sheets are quick and easy to portion for patients.

The two preferred ways to make fruit roll up hash are either using the drying sheets that come with the bubblebags, the blue rimmed squares. Or using a flat plate. Either way, the idea is to collect your bubble and lay it out as thin as possible while still wet. If you lay it too thin, it wont form a sheet. If you lay it too thick you won't be able to see through it for that visual affect.

With the drying squares you can let the bubble dry on both sides, but with the plate it is another story all together. You will have to make the call as to when it is time to cut the sheet free and peel it up. The window is small, but if you get it in time the tactile properties of this wet/dry sheet of hash is amazing. Then you can dry the plate side.

The sheets cure to different colors. If I've understood what RC Clarke is saying in his epic book "Hashish", the hash color reflects the cannabinoids present in the trichomes.

I've found that the colors of these fruit roll ups vary from blonde, to amber, to gold, to red, to purple, to brown. NOT black though, because this process uses no heat or pressing, so decarboxylation is minimal. big up mo!

Matt Rize said:

My crew is into Azospirillum, a bacteria that fixes nitrogen out of the air. Anyone heard about this specie?

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/microbiology/2667

"Nitrogen fixation is not the major benefit Azospirillum can give to plants. When Azospirillum are placed on the roots of plants they have the ablity to increase the numbers of root hairs (from Iowa State University) on each root. These root hairs are important in helping the plant get water from the soil. This benefit the plant derives from its association with Azospirillum helps the plants do better in drier places.

Another benefit the plant gets from associating with Azospirillum is that the bacteria produce plant growth factors (auxins) that cause the plant to produce more roots. The better the root system, the stronger the plant. Stronger plants produce more food. The plants given Azospirillum are also as productive as heavily fertilized plants that do not have the Azospirillum added."

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Matt Rize said:

SPEAKING OF NEW SCHOOL...

Yes, I have finally got both my flowers and bubble hash submitted for analysis. While submitting my samples I got to check out some of subcool's ganja. By which I mean GROWN BY THE SUB AND MZ JILL THEMSELVES! Greenhouse style! Very interesting assortment of flavors, I can't remember which one smelled like cream soda, but that was really cool. Uh...still my indoor veganic Blackberry Kush looks and smells better, but I may be biased and I spent way more to grow way less. Update on the results asap. Peas.

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Matt Rize said:

There are a few ways to make fruit roll up style hash.
The benefit of making/storing your hash in this manner are:
1) Easy to break a piece off, and then it is ready to melt
2) Minimal processing of the hash, no pressing/heating/tricks needed
3) Easy for dispensaries to judge the quality, consistency, melt. And thin sheets are quick and east to portion for patients.

The two preferred ways to make fruit roll up hash are either using your the drying sheets that come with the bubblebags, the blue rimmed squares. Or using a flat plate. Either way, the idea is to collect your bubble and lay it out as thin as possible while still wet. If you lay it too thin, it wont form a sheet. If you lay it too thick you won't be able to see through it for that visual affect.

With the drying squares you can let the bubble dry on both sides, but with the plate it is another story all together. You will have to make the call as to when it is time to cut the sheet free and peel it up. The window is small, but if you get it in time the tactile properties of this wet/dry sheet of hash is amazing. Then you can dry the plate side.

The sheets cure to different colors. If I've understood what RC Clarke is saying in his epic book "Hashish", the hash color reflects the cannabinoids present in the trichomes.

I've found that the colors of these fruit roll ups vary from blonde, to amber, to gold, to red, to purple, to brown. NOT black though, because this process uses no heat or pressing, so decarboxylation is minimal. big up mo!

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appreciate it
i will like just breaking some off and smoking it

moash said:

appreciate it
i will like just breaking some off and smoking it

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a really crazy thing you may find, is that if your bubble is contaminated by plant matter, then if will float to the top when using the plate method. then your fruit roll up will be oily on the plate side and fuzzy on the top side. And for long term storage, I roll em up with plastic wrap, then stick them in the a dark sealed jar. each 6x6" sheet weigh about an ounce to 40 grams when cured. If you can lay it out thin enough to see through it, then any contamination will show up as dark spots when held up to light.

Matt Rize said:

a really crazy thing you may find, is that if your bubble is contaminated by plant matter, then if will float to the top when using the plate method. then your fruit roll up will be oily on the plate side and fuzzy on the top side. And for long term storage, I roll em up with plastic wrap, then stick them in the a dark sealed jar. each 6x6" sheet weigh about an ounce to 40 grams when cured. If you can lay it out thin enough to see through it, then any contamination will show up as dark spots when held up to light.

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groovy info man
very useful
fire in the hole

karri0n said:

I have not, however, tried anything along the lines of cleansing and charging a giant hunk of quartz crystal and putting it next to them, but that would be an interesting experiment and I thank you for the idea.

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Back to seriousness, but you can tell I like to have fun too (i'm a unique blend, in no particular order, of: hippy/rock-climber/scientist/chef/hustler/teacher/lover/canna-nerd/class-clown).

I like to lay my charged quartz right on the dirt. Not the huge pieces, but some of the smaller and well traveled pieces.
I like to refresh the quartz, or switch them up, to coincide with the moon cycles. New moon, new stones. But what do I know? LOL
And by well traveled, I take the power pieces with me hiking, and to different parts of the country. Then I make sure to wash them in clean running water, spring or glacial. Let them lay in the sun to dry and warm. I'm considering trying a Pacific wash, since I'm there already a few times a week. But am worried about the salt reacting with my power pieces.

GFOYLE said:

isn't ammonia build up the largest opposing force to recirculating organic hydro? An automated irrigation system would be great, but so far the only set up that seems to make sense is top feed drain to waste. And without a pump and RO system, that seems like a lot of wasted water, what do you think?

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Kaiser Puff said:

Nitrogen fixers like in Mayan Microzyme can use ammonia as an energy source.

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I think you are correct to some degree. The people I know doing organic hydro are top feeding via drip, collecting the run-off and re-using it. They just top off daily, or twice daily. And they add food everyday until changing up the whole res. They have cut out the wasted water part, and don't seem to have ammonia issues. That may be because they do a hygrozyme 'cleaning' between res changes. Not all organic nutes can be used like that. And I'm no hydro expert, lol.

Agreed on the mayan eating ammonia.