New QB/strip build

budman410 · May 14, 2019

Another little experiment before the big move to my new space. To facilitate the move I’ve started flushing my big potted Mother’s and harvesting them a little early. So it would only be this one 4x4 table I would need to move and probably

will let them just flower out in this old space while I move out all my other fixtures. To be cheap or not cheap is the question. I already have 36in angle to make a fixture so I’m going to try and see how the coverage is vs 48x36 angle. So this fixture will be 36x36. Still deciding if I’m going to use 2 far red/red strips or 4 for this particular build. The boards are 36inch*7inch 4K.

Airwalker16 · May 14, 2019

budman410 said:
Another little experiment before the big move to my new space. To facilitate the move I’ve started flushing my big potted Mother’s and harvesting them a little early. So it would only be this one 4x4 table I would need to move and probably View attachment 4333551 will let them just flower out in this old space while I move out all my other fixtures. To be cheap or not cheap is the question. I already have 36in angle to make a fixture so I’m going to try and see how the coverage is vs 48x36 angle. So this fixture will be 36x36. Still deciding if I’m going to use 2 far red/red strips or 4 for this particular build. The boards are 36inch*7inch 4K.

Those also Fotop800s?

GBAUTO · May 14, 2019

budman410 said:
View attachment 4333551 Still deciding if I’m going to use 2 far red/red strips or 4 for this particular build. The boards are 36inch*7inch 4K.

I added approx. 10% of total wattage as 660nm during flower. Seems to work well so far.

Airwalker16 · May 14, 2019

GBAUTO said:
I added approx. 10% of total wattage as 660nm during flower. Seems to work well so far.

If you haven't already, GreenGenes newest "side by side" using red boost and all white, shows some pretty interesting growth differences. Seems like to me, scroggers can greatly benefit from added red.

Airwalker16 · May 14, 2019

budman410 said:
Still deciding if I’m going to use 2 far red/red strips or 4 for this particular build. The boards are 36inch*7inch 4K.

If your far red is being used just mainly right before and at lights out, 2 of those strips is more than enough to trigger that sleep.

budman410 · May 14, 2019

Airwalker16 said:
Those also Fotop800s?

Yes but they not the 11inchers I was expecting. I Wasn’t paying attention to specs but Rita and Bruce quoted me for these 7 inch wide boards and not the 11 inch wide ones.

GBAUTO said:
I added approx. 10% of total wattage as 660nm during flower. Seems to work well so far.

Good to hear I was planning on running them extremely soft with these 60 drivers I have

budman410 · May 14, 2019

Airwalker16 said:
If your far red is being used just mainly right before and at lights out, 2 of those strips is more than enough to trigger that sleep.

That’s something more for my 3k boards from what I read the 4K don’t have enough of that red spectrum but the main purpose of the strips was for the Emerson effect. Since this is just a more of less variables test I figured I could get an idea of the spread of light with a fixture that’s 36inch and not the 4x4 size fixture I have already built from Hlg boards

Airwalker16 · May 14, 2019

budman410 said:
Yes but they not the 11inchers I was expecting. I Wasn’t paying attention to specs but Rita and Bruce quoted me for these 7 inch wide boards and not the 11 inch wide ones.

Good to hear I was planning on running them extremely soft with these 60 drivers I have

So you wish you'd gotten 11" wide ones?

budman410 · May 15, 2019

Airwalker16 said:
So you wish you'd gotten 11" wide ones?

Is this greengenes a thread or YouTube, and yes for coverage and temp control, the diodes are more spaced out and for the same 4x4 frame I envisioned I felt 3 800 fotop boards would give me sufficient coverage. Now potentially if I run them at 540w heat and light distribution is a thing to look at

Airwalker16 · May 15, 2019

budman410 said:
Is this greengenes a thread or YouTube, and yes for coverage and temp control, the diodes are more spaced out and for the same 4x4 frame I envisioned I felt 3 800 fotop boards would give me sufficient coverage. Now potentially if I run them at 540w heat and light distribution is a thing to look at

Greengenes is the owner of Pacific Light Concepts and he has a YouTube channel, yeah. That is where this new side by side is at. He does it on Watermelon X Skittlez

Airwalker16 · May 15, 2019

budman410 said:
Is this greengenes a thread or YouTube, and yes for coverage and temp control, the diodes are more spaced out and for the same 4x4 frame I envisioned I felt 3 800 fotop boards would give me sufficient coverage. Now potentially if I run them at 540w heat and light distribution is a thing to look at

And with the 11" wides, 3 boards totalling 540w, wouldn't need a heatsink or be an issue you're saying?
How many watts can the 7" & 11" both take before needing a heatsink?

Airwalker16 · May 15, 2019

budman410 said:
Another little experiment before the big move to my new space. To facilitate the move I’ve started flushing my big potted Mother’s and harvesting them a little early. So it would only be this one 4x4 table I would need to move and probably View attachment 4333551 will let them just flower out in this old space while I move out all my other fixtures. To be cheap or not cheap is the question. I already have 36in angle to make a fixture so I’m going to try and see how the coverage is vs 48x36 angle. So this fixture will be 36x36. Still deciding if I’m going to use 2 far red/red strips or 4 for this particular build. The boards are 36inch*7inch 4K.

Put some 36" t5 reptile bulbs in place of the strips instead! I know I'd consider that for sure.

Rocket Soul · May 15, 2019

The 7 inchers are nice for spectrum tweeaking cause you can get better coverage for the red strips.

Airwalker16 said:
And with the 11" wides, 3 boards totalling 540w, wouldn't need a heatsink or be an issue you're saying?
How many watts can the 7" & 11" both take before needing a heatsink?

Fotops seems to like 200w max, maybe a bit more with airmovement and if you tolerate a board with high temps. These new ones god knows but should be ok for 130-150 if they have the same threading etc as the fotops.

budman410 · May 15, 2019

Airwalker16 said:
Put some 36" t5 reptile bulbs in place of the strips instead! I know I'd consider that for sure.

Any of those that aren’t 60plus dollars and cheap fixture alternatives for them. Because, We are just focusing on trial and error with uvb I’m skeptical. ESP since I’ve been seeing potential yield damage. I just brought a 18inch uvb for my tortoises I might throw it over my plants sometimes lol

Airwalker16 · May 15, 2019

budman410 said:
Any of those that aren’t 60plus dollars and cheap fixture alternatives for them. Because, We are just focusing on trial and error with uvb I’m skeptical. ESP since I’ve been seeing potential yield damage. I just brought a 18inch uvb for my tortoises I might throw it over my plants sometimes lol

It's gotta be light uvb. 6:1 ratio of UVA/UVB. But depending on the intensity of the bulb, its not something you have on all day long.
It's pretty obvious it helps with yield and potency

budman410 · May 15, 2019

Airwalker16 said:
It's gotta be light uvb. 6:1 ratio of UVA/UVB. But depending on the intensity of the bulb, its not something you have on all day long.
It's pretty obvious it helps with yield and potency

I grazed past a couple threads on the topic and it’s a slippery slope with the learning curve of how much, how long, and which lights to use. What reptile bulb do you recommend? I seen some strips and t5bulbs that say uvb and uva. With all the new things I’m implementing now adding uvb feels daunting.

Before I start screwing things together I found some 4ft angle I have left over. Do y’all think I should go ahead and make that the length to spread the boards out further or just stick with the 36x36 frame I have pictured

budman410 · May 15, 2019

Rocket Soul said:
The 7 inchers are nice for spectrum tweeaking cause you can get better coverage for the red strips.

Fotops seems to like 200w max, maybe a bit more with airmovement and if you tolerate a board with high temps. These new ones god knows but should be ok for 130-150 if they have the same threading etc as the fotops.

I felt that when I laid out the frame but between how hot these boards can potentially get(can’t find my temp gun) and the lack of spread of light I’m tempted to go 4 board over the standard 3 for this 4x4

Airwalker16 · May 15, 2019

budman410 said:
I grazed past a couple threads on the topic and it’s a slippery slope with the learning curve of how much, how long, and which lights to use. What reptile bulb do you recommend? I seen some strips and t5bulbs that say uvb and uva. With all the new things I’m implementing now adding uvb feels daunting.

Before I start screwing things together I found some 4ft angle I have left over. Do y’all think I should go ahead and make that the length to spread the boards out further or just stick with the 36x36 frame I have pictured

@Randomblame said that the SolaCure t12/t8 bulbs are by far THEE BEST bulbs you can use. Buy if you're wanting it so that you can just turn them on and use all day while lights are on, something like the 6-10% reptisun bulbs hung high up will work great.

budman410 · May 15, 2019

WA ting?
And by high you mean 24’-36’?

Airwalker16 · May 15, 2019

Haha my Bad. Edited ^^^^^^^^

budman410 said:
WA ting?
And by high you mean 24’-36’?

And yes I mean, like to the top of your tent high.

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