abandonconflict
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Quite compelling.
[video]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/apr/30/barack-obama-campaign-ad-video[/video]
[video]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/apr/30/barack-obama-campaign-ad-video[/video]
New Obama ad
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abandonconflict
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Well, you guys have failed to convince me that Ron Paul is the best candidate so far, I am becoming very unsure. This ad is doing very well to convince me that Obama is by far the best candidate.
Let's see how this thread goes, I'm not the only one who may swing vote, more people read this than you think. Explicate Obama's ad, but do try and defend your candidate with logic, otherwise UB will ridicule you.
Let's see how this thread goes, I'm not the only one who may swing vote, more people read this than you think. Explicate Obama's ad, but do try and defend your candidate with logic, otherwise UB will ridicule you.
abandonconflict
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I'm not convinced of anything.
deprave
New Member
You seem to be convinced the war on terror is real and for that your a moron.
Why should you NOT vote for Obama/Romney? Just One Reason...Because they are perfectly fine with you being thrown in jail for non-violent crimes and in some circumstances without a trial.
You grow and or smoke marijuana...they both think you should go to jail......One very good reason not to vote for them: Because you don't want to go to jail.
Why should you NOT vote for Obama/Romney? Just One Reason...Because they are perfectly fine with you being thrown in jail for non-violent crimes and in some circumstances without a trial.
You grow and or smoke marijuana...they both think you should go to jail......One very good reason not to vote for them: Because you don't want to go to jail.
abandonconflict
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Obama is not jailing any growers who comply with state law. Dispensaries who cut corners are being shut down though. I don't support a cannabis industry, I think that patients should grow their own or a trusted provider, fuck the dispensaries.
If you believe there was a major conspiracy, then you believe the government is competent enough to keep a secret. Even if 9-11 was an inside job, that blame goes to Dubya, not the black guy solving the problem.
deprave
New Member
What about states where its illegal? Obama is against marijuana legilization, he thinks you belong in Jail and thats the fact, he has no problem with people going to jail over marijuana, it happens under his watch. Personally I don't think ANYONE should go to jail over marijuana REGARDLESS of ANYTHING, why do you disagree?
Regardless if 9/11 was or wasn't a conspiracy the War on Terror is still fake. I don't know if its an inside job or not but that doesn't even matter. The false war on terror continues to violate our civil liberties and the wars continue under Obama and all of this will continue under Romney.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
abandonconflict
Well-Known Member
States where it is illegal, come on, the libertarian asking me this?
Obama didn't start the War on terror, he inherited it.
deprave
New Member
Keep dodgin my very relevent questions, No respect.
Again...
WHY SHOULD ANYONE BE JAILED OVER MARIJUANA?!?!?
and Why does Obama Administration continue to perpetuate this WAR ON TERROR MYTH and violations of our rights?
lifegoesonbrah
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Its not our job to convince you, do it yourself. You are starting to turn into an Unclebuck tool and that is not cool brah.
Unfortunately, it's a rather narrow mindset to cast your vote solely on the marijuana issue. The country's already going to shit and with 4 more years of Obama, we may not be able to dig ourselves out of it. I'm convinced the Republicans are the lesser of 2 evils at this point.......... at least you know where they stand. Obama just says what he thinks people want to hear, lies and 1/2 truths- just look at his record so far. A complete and total failure IMO.
LemonAssistance
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Cant agree more, and that seems to be many's prime reason for supporting Ron Paul. As if things will change as soon as he takes office.
abandonconflict
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This is a good point. You made a valid point here. You have successfully drawn blood, score one for you, but there are many issues. I will point out however, that in the last four years, more progress has been made against the prohibition of cannabis than at any time since Anslinger.
Your war on terror questions are also valid, but they don't count against Obama because he did not start those conflicts. I wished he would have gotten us out sooner, but he did get us out of Iraq and they are starting to wipe their own asses over there and that will lead to return on our investment in the form of crude oil. As for A-stan, we have the same types of interests there. Despite what my name suggests, I don't think it is wise to simply bring everyone home after we have done so much damage to the previous system. We obviously could not maintain both conflicts and I am very surprised that he has managed to successfully complete the objectives with out further damage to our own way of life.
What are you so mad for? Things are better in America than they have been for a long time. Don't get angry because I am testing your assertions, prove them.
abandonconflict
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Then don't try to convince people that Ron Paul is the greatest thing ever. If it isn't your job to convince anyone, then stop trying to, then you lose the whole debate.
abandonconflict
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His record is fantastic. He has done very well in completing everything he said he would when he campaigned (almost perfectly). You're telling me you know where Mitt Romney stands? He doesn't even know where he stands.
abandonconflict
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Youtube link. So no attacks on the validity of the claims in the ad?
[video=youtube;1WbQe-wVK9E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1WbQe-wVK9E[/video]
[video=youtube;1WbQe-wVK9E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1WbQe-wVK9E[/video]
deprave
New Member
Yes they do count against Obama, the TSA has grown massively and shows no signs at letting up, the patriot act continues because obama continued it, the NDAA which declares the homeland a battlefront also signed in by Obama, although Iraq was "ended" the other wars continue a new ones were started. Obama has also support big banks, citizens united, and yes even "Wall Street over Mainstreet", I have absolutely no idea why someone can take obama's side, apparently out of apathy? Why am I so mad? LoL ....If actually having a position on an issue or actually giving a shit is being Mad then sure I am mad. Although It could be that corporate america rules with an Ironfist and all of the problems continue to grow, obama has really done nothing of signicant importantce whatsoever. To get to the point the reason I do not support Obama or Mitt Romney is because I do not support Big Pharma, Big Ag, Big Banks, the Military Industrial Complex, The Private Prison Complex, or any corporations over people and these two puppets obviously do. Ron Paul does not, its really that simple. Ron Paul is against big pharama, war profiteering, the prison industrial complex, big ag, big banks, citizens united, the war on our civil liberties, etc...The list goes on and on and on..
abandonconflict
Well-Known Member
President does not decide how laws should be interpreted; the judiciary does. Nor can the President unilaterally change an Act of Congress; only Congress can do that.
deprave
New Member
I would not want to discuss semantics and I trust it is probably "valid"...the important question is "relevance". This is not relevant or important information in this ad, more riff raff & flim flam, not one issue is addressed on this ad. I would rather watch Soap Operas then this political propganda, this is so far from reality.