New Obama ad

abandonconflict said:

President does not decide how laws should be interpreted; the judiciary does. Nor can the President unilaterally change an Act of Congress; only Congress can do that.

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So whats your point? Why have you become so apathetic?

Obama could of done plenty to address the issues I brought up but did nothing. Obama hasn't really done anything meaningfull for humanity at all.

Its unfortante to see that you have found your way out of the rabbit hole only to become indoctrinated by this garbage statist propaganda. I wish you luck in your state of denial my firend, it easy to be a blue pill taker isn't it? (to believe what you want to believe)

deprave said:

I would not want to discuss semantics and I trust it is probably "valid"...the important question is "relevance". This is not relevant or important information in this ad, more riff raff & flim flam, not one issue is addressed on this ad. I would rather watch Soap Operas.

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Fine, if you care only of the wording of NDAA and the Patriot act, I am willing to debate it.

As for the patriot act, he only extended 3 provisions of it, Wire taps, access to business records and the authorization to conduct surveillance on "lone wolves" which yes, could be anyone. Effectively, all this does is save money. These activities have been going on for decades by covert operators, but now, any federal agent can do it with the right warrant (which can be awarded in secret). Effectively, this means that the only change is that the government saves money by utuilizing the FBI instead of the NSA, and there will also exist a record of the authorization to conduct these activities. I don't like it, but it is an improvement over the original Patriot Act that Dubya signed.

You get half a point for this one imo, and honestly, it hinges around fear mongering.

Now the provisions of the Patriot Act which he did not renew do somewhat exist in the NDAA. I'm assuming that you object to the same ones that the ACLU objects to. I also object. They are narrower than the provisions in the original Patriot act at least, but I still object.

Score one for you.

deprave said:

Its unfortante to see that you have found your way out of the rabbit hole only to become indoctrinated by this garbage statist propaganda. I wish you luck in your state of denial my firend, it easy to be a blue pill taker isn't it? (to believe what you want to believe)

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I wish you luck with your favorite beverage.

Round and Round we go, humans are hypocritical, they despise those that are guilty of the same crimes they are guilty of. You're sterotype of me is based out of this broad catagorization of anyone who dares to question, this IS the state. This is what you despise so much and this is why you mock, for this reason you are the one that took a sip from the koolaid, its the essence of your last posting. The state is coming through in you strong today, what the hell happened?

your != you're

deprave said:

Round and Round we go, humans are hypocritical, they despise those that are guilty of the same crimes they are guilty of. Your sterotype of me is based out of this broad catagorization of anyone who dares to question, this IS the state. This is what you despise so much and this is why you mock, for this reason you are the one that took a sip from the koolaid, its the essence of your last posting. The state is coming through in you strong today, what the hell happened?

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I am satisfied with the performance of my government more than I have been for a long time. Things are looking up.

abandonconflict said:

I am satisfied with the performance of my government more than I have been for a long time. Things are looking up.

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Well, Goodnight, I hope you have a good rest all sound asleep...I am sad the statist propaganda convinced you that everything is just dandy...

[video=youtube;giaZnIr-faM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giaZnIr-faM&feature=related[/video]

deprave said:

Well, Goodnight, I hope you have a good rest all sound asleep...I am sad the statist propaganda convinced you that everything is just dandy...

[video=youtube;giaZnIr-faM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giaZnIr-faM&feature=related[/video]

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I didn't say it was dandy, but I am arguing strongly that it is headed back in the right direction now that it's control has been wrested from the GOP.

abandonconflict said:

I didn't say it was dandy, but I am arguing strongly that it is headed back in the right direction now that it's control has been wrested from the GOP.

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thats true, and I predict you will be able to thank.... in part, Ron Paul, ...for that in 2016..to be fair.

deprave said:

thats true, and I predict you will be able to thank.... in part, Ron Paul, ...for that in 2016..to be fair.

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Slow traffic stay right, the LEFT lane is for passing.

deprave said:

Well, Goodnight, I hope you have a good rest all sound asleep...I am sad the statist propaganda convinced you that everything is just dandy...

[video=youtube;giaZnIr-faM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giaZnIr-faM&feature=related[/video]

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deprave said:

Im convinced your a moron

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what about his 'a moron' are you convinced about?

UncleBuck said:

what about his 'a moron' are you convinced about?

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come again?

abandonconflict said:

His record is fantastic. He has done very well in completing everything he said he would when he campaigned (almost perfectly). You're telling me you know where Mitt Romney stands? He doesn't even know where he stands.

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That is an outrageous claim. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

UncleBuck said:

what about his 'a moron' are you convinced about?

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Cause I own morons.

deprave said:

What about states where its illegal? Obama is against marijuana legilization

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*legalization, moron

deprave said:

he thinks you belong in Jail and thats the fact

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no it's not, obama supports decriminalization.

facts aren't dead yet, moron.

deprave said:

Personally I don't think ANYONE should go to jail over marijuana REGARDLESS of ANYTHING, why do you disagree?

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what if someone knowingly sold a whole bunch of moldy marijuana that got people sick? i'd say they belong in jail.

only a moron would disagree.

UncleBuck said:

*legalization, moron



no it's not, obama supports decriminalization.

facts aren't dead yet, moron.

he does not support decriminalization.

what if someone knowingly sold a whole bunch of moldy marijuana that got people sick? i'd say they belong in jail. more than likely

only a moron would disagree. Exactly

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see text in red , so your point?

SSHZ said:

I'm convinced the Republicans are the lesser of 2 evils at this point.......... at least you know where they stand.

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lol, good luck getting behind rmoney.

i'm sure if he gets in he'll appoint SCOTUS picks who will reverse such horrible decisions as citizens united and strip searches for jaywalking. you can thank conservative, republican scotus picks for those.

Johnny Retro said:

That is an outrageous claim. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

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The website isn't opening for me but I am well acquainted with rhetoric from both sides. Care to make a claim in your own words? Or at least quote something?